# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 334
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6680 "2020-11-19T14:14:00Z")
Only the best men. Top Men. And then he collapses when asked by the judge if he (Ghoulani) is alleging fraud - “No”. I’m guessing the judge is just trolling him by not immediately dismissing the suit. Should be good reading when the judgement comes out. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6681 "2020-11-19T14:31:52Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > In still more potential corruption, we have the following: > > [https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-barr-caterpillar-exclusive/exclusive-u-s-investigators-were-told-to-take-no-further-action-on-caterpillar-ex-client-of-barr-idUSKBN27Y2PO](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-barr-caterpillar-exclusive/exclusive-u-s-investigators-were-told-to-take-no-further-action-on-caterpillar-ex-client-of-barr-idUSKBN27Y2PO) Makes sense that Trump stooges would be protecting Caterpillar – one of the most corrupt and unethical companies in existence (i.e.- just like him) – against charges of tax evasion (i.e.- just like him). A few years ago they threatened to move their entire headquarters out of Illinois when the state raised income taxes: > **[Caterpillar CEO's letter talks of leaving Illinois](https://pantagraph.com/news/local/caterpillar-ceos-letter-talks-of-leaving-illinois/article_3c23590c-572a-11e0-afc0-001cc4c002e0.html)** > > SPRINGFIELD -- The chairman and CEO of Peoria-based Caterpillar Inc. is raising the specter of moving the heavy equipment maker out of Illinois. In a letter sent March 21 to And here in Ontario, they demanded that workers at one of their plants take a 50% salary cut. When workers had a bit of a problem with that, Caterpillar closed the plant: > **[Caterpillar pulls plug on London plant](https://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-investor/caterpillar-pulls-plug-on-london-plant/article544321/)** > > Multinational giant closes Electro-Motive in latest blow to labour; 450 workers locked out since Jan. 1 lose their jobs Quote from the article: _“ **I’ve never had a situation where I’ve dealt with such an unethical, immoral, disrespectful, highly profitable company like Caterpillar** ,” [Canadian Auto Workers president Ken Lewenza] said in a telephone interview Friday …_ I can see how Trump and Caterpillar management would the best of friends. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6682 "2020-11-19T15:57:17Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > “ **I’ve never had a situation where I’ve dealt with such an unethical, immoral, disrespectful, highly profitable company like Caterpillar** ,” To which Trump says, “Hold my ~~beer~~ glass of water.” ---
**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6683 "2020-11-19T16:06:30Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > To which Trump says, “Hold my ~~beer~~ glass of water.” …but do it with both hands and like in a super awkward way. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6684 "2020-11-19T16:23:39Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > Maybe it’s the lawyer in me, but I truly enjoyed the un-preparedness, the floundering, and the making a damn fool of himself that was Guiliani arguing in federal court. “Baliff, pull his hands out of his pants and whack his pee-pee.” ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6685 "2020-11-19T16:28:24Z")
In her first public comment in many days, GSA administrator Emily Murphy, who has held up signing off on releasing funds for Biden’s Transition, has tweeted this: > [@](#): > > **Dcccf Rex zzz .@#z@smaan anaNN** This means something. Nobody knows what > **[Trump's Transition-Blocking GSA Boss Finally Tweeted And It Was Weird As Hell](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/emily-murphy-gsa-tweet_n_5fb5f894c5b6f00bd84d6021)** > > Emily Murphy fired off her first tweet in nearly two weeks and it's not what anyone expected. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6686 "2020-11-19T16:29:05Z")
I think her cat probably tweeted that. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6687 "2020-11-19T16:31:24Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > This means something. > > Nobody knows what It’s hexidecimal code for “covfefe.” ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6688 "2020-11-19T16:31:29Z")
“Everyone! Emily Murphy just made a drop!” will be the cry from the Qrowd. And it will be worked into the “game”, becoming another “clue” that leads them onward as they solve this great puzzle of conspiracies and subterfuge…. Cite: > **[A Game Designer’s Analysis Of QAnon](https://medium.com/curiouserinstitute/a-game-designers-analysis-of-qanon-580972548be5)** > > Playing with reality ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6689 "2020-11-19T16:37:29Z")
In other news, CNN’s Fact Checker has this to say about Trump’s tweets: > [@](#): > > “Basically nothing the president is saying is true,” tweeted Dale. > > “People say ‘what else is new,’ but this is a new lying level even for him,” Dale continued. “He’s barely even bothering to sprinkle in some accurate and arguable claims.” > > “It’s almost all false all the time,” Dale said. > **[CNN Fact-Checker Spells Out The Stark Truth Of Trump's Post-Election Lies](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/daniel-dale-donald-trump-lies_n_5fb65f85c5b66cd4ad422d3d)** > > "This is a new lying level even for him," said Daniel Dale. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6690 "2020-11-19T16:52:16Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > In her first public comment in many days, GSA administrator Emily Murphy, who has held up signing off on releasing funds for Biden’s Transition, has tweeted this: > > > [@](#): > > > > **Dcccf Rex zzz .@#z@smaan anaNN** > > This means something. > > Nobody knows what > > [Trump's Transition-Blocking GSA Boss Finally Tweeted And It Was Weird As Hell | HuffPost Latest News](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/emily-murphy-gsa-tweet_n_5fb5f894c5b6f00bd84d6021) No matter what version of the story you believe – that she is a devoted Trumpist, or merely a civil servant trying to follow the rules – the fact is that, as I mentioned somewhere else, if she ascertains the election for Biden, Trump will have her out on the street within the hour, and replace her with a more loyal stooge. But failing to ascertain in the face of such a clear outcome is creating tremendous pressure on her from all sides, including Republicans with more than half a brain. In short, she is caught between a rock and a hard place, and my theory is that she is totally falling-down drunk as a coping mechanism, and the tweet was either an incoherent attempt to say something or she fell on her phone and passed out. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6691 "2020-11-19T17:13:40Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > Dcccf Rex zzz .@#z@smaan anaNN It’s quite the stirring call to action. Not exactly a “[Today is not that day!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA8wkz0uGLE)”, but you take what you can get. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6692 "2020-11-19T17:17:31Z")
It’s hard to tweet accurately when your hands are cuffed behind your back. ---
**Author:** ![Turek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/turek/32/18782_2.png) [@Turek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turek)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6693 "2020-11-19T17:43:14Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > No matter what version of the story you believe – that she is a devoted Trumpist, or merely a civil servant trying to follow the rules – the fact is that, as I mentioned somewhere else, if she ascertains the election for Biden, Trump will have her out on the street within the hour, and replace her with a more loyal stooge. But failing to ascertain in the face of such a clear outcome is creating tremendous pressure on her from all sides, including Republicans with more than half a brain. > > In short, she is caught between a rock and a hard place, and my theory is that she is totally falling-down drunk as a coping mechanism, and the tweet was either an incoherent attempt to say something or she fell on her phone and passed out. I give exactly zero fucks about how tough a position she is in or how much pressure she is under. She took up with pigs; she deserves to get shit all over her. She needs to do her fucking job, and if it gets her fired, then she can file a wrongful termination suit (for all the good that’ll do her). Anything else is willful obstruction of the process, and is endangering American lives. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6694 "2020-11-19T18:19:49Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > the fact is that, as I mentioned somewhere else, if she ascertains the election for Biden, Trump will have her out on the street within the hour, and replace her with a more loyal stooge But, as is noted on today’s _Maddowblog_: > [@](#): > > If Murphy is concerned about the outgoing president firing her for making the obvious call, she can take some solace in the fact that she’s going to lose her GSA job after Inauguration Day anyway. And if Trump replaces her after she’s made a call to release the funds, it’ll be a _fait accompli_ > **[Official blocking the transition process has an easy decision to make](https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/official-blocking-transition-process-has-easy-decision-make-n1248241)** > > Emily Murphy should know, there's a difference between a difficult decision and an easy decision that generates politically inconvenient consequences. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6695 "2020-11-19T18:33:39Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > And if Trump replaces her after she’s made a call to release the funds, it’ll be a _fait accompli_ You have some good points there, but it’s not clear to me that if she OKs the transition, that it would necessarily be a _fait accompli_. Sure, it would be unprecedented and absurd to try to rescind it, but I wouldn’t for a second put it past the orange man-child to do exactly that. It would be in keeping with everything else he’s doing. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6696 "2020-11-19T18:58:37Z")
That was my first thought: Cat? Butt? ETA: Catbutt? ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6697 "2020-11-19T19:09:27Z")
> [@susan](#): > > That was my first thought: Cat? Butt? > > ETA: Catbutt?- I would expect Cat Butt dialing to be waaaay more creative _and_ more inscrutable than human butt dialing. You and I think alike on a bunch of stuff. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6698 "2020-11-19T19:15:29Z")
In a move of stunning brilliance, Trump is holding in-person holiday parties in the White House. I wonder who will attend? > [@](#): > > The White House plans to host its annual Hanukkah reception next month, even as coronavirus cases are on the rise around the country. > > The reception is scheduled for 3 p.m. on Dec. 9, according to a copy of the invitation, which was shared with HuffPost by the recipient. There were no instructions included about special coronavirus precautions. > > The White House is also planning its Christmas party, looking at Dec. 10 as a potential date, according to a GOP source on the Hill. > **[White House Plans In-Person Holiday Parties As COVID-19 Cases Rise](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/white-house-holiday-parties-covid_n_5fb6aacdc5b66cd4ad42b9fa)** > > No word yet on whether there will be changes to minimize the spread of the disease. ---
**Author:** ![casdave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c6cbf5/32.png) [@casdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/casdave)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6699 "2020-11-19T20:32:16Z")
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