# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2020, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6841 "2020-11-23T20:43:00Z")

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The Trump supporter: the intelligence never ceases to amaze:

> **[A man in Trump gear faces simple assault charge after he was seen breathing...](https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/23/us/man-arrested-trump-golf-club/index.html)**
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> A man wearing a Trump shirt and an inflatable Trump innertube around his belly who was seen on video deliberately exhaling on two women outside of President Donald Trump's golf course in Virginia has been charged with simple assault.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2020, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6842 "2020-11-23T21:07:04Z")

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Never My Fault!

> **[Trump fears Giuliani, other lawyers in Biden vote challenge are 'fools that...](https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/23/trump-fears-giuliani-and-other-biden-vote-challenge-lawyers-are-fools.html)**
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> Ex-New York mayor Rudy Giuliani, once a top federal prosecutor, is heading the Trump campaign's efforts to overturn Joe Biden's victory. It's not going well.

> Trump is worried that his campaign’s legal team, which is being led by his personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani, is comprised of “fools that are making him look bad,” NBC News reported Monday.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2020, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6843 "2020-11-23T21:08:25Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> Trump is worried that his campaign’s legal team, which is being led by his personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani, is comprised of “fools that are making him look bad,” NBC News reported Monday.-

That’s definitely an example of “even a stopped clock is right twice a day.”

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As if Trump needs help in that area.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2020, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6845 "2020-11-23T21:17:15Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> Never My Fault!
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> [https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/23/trump-fears-giuliani-and-other-biden-vote-challenge-lawyers-are-fools.html](https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/23/trump-fears-giuliani-and-other-biden-vote-challenge-lawyers-are-fools.html)
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> > Trump is worried that his campaign’s legal team, which is being led by his personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani, is comprised of “fools that are making him look bad,” NBC News reported Monday.

It’s not often that I totally agree with him.

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**Post date:** [November 23, 2020, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6846 "2020-11-23T21:37:59Z")

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Not fools; they’re opportunistic grifters.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2020, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6847 "2020-11-23T21:41:33Z")

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Individual 1 says he will veto the defense appropriation because it contains a provision to rename bases named for Confederates.  
[https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1248467](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1248467)

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2020, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6848 "2020-11-23T21:43:51Z")

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[https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/527227-trump-job-approval-slips-in-first-survey-after-election](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/527227-trump-job-approval-slips-in-first-survey-after-election)

> [President Trump](https://thehill.com/people/donald-trump)’s approval rating has dipped 3 points since the Nov. 3 election, according to a new Gallup poll.
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> The [survey found that](https://news.gallup.com/poll/326420/trump-job-approval-down-slightly-election.aspx?utm_source=alert&utm_medium=email&utm_content=morelink&utm_campaign=syndication) Trump’s job approval rating dipped from 46 percent just before Election Day to 43 percent earlier this month.
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> The polling firm noted that he garnered a 90 percent job approval rating among Republicans following the election, down from 95 percent before voters went to the polls.
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> Thirty-nine percent of independents approved of the president in the new survey, compared to 41 percent prior to the election. **His 3 percent approval rating among Democrats was unchanged.**  
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My bold.

Now the Dems’ rating makes sense.

But from 95% before to 90% after the election among Republicans. 🤦🏽‍♀️

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Individual 1 says he will veto the defense appropriation because it contains a provision to rename bases named for Confederates.

Racism might be his only core principle.

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2020, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6850 "2020-11-23T22:07:07Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> But from 95% before to 90% after the election among Republicans.

I’m frankly surprised it moved that much.

I’m much more worried about him only losing 2% of his independents’ support.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2020, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6851 "2020-11-23T22:08:42Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> Trump is worried that his campaign’s legal team, which is being led by his personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani, is comprised of “fools that are making him look bad,” NBC News reported Monday.

I guess they can forget about getting paid…

Bumpity bump. Under the bus they go.

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**Post date:** [November 23, 2020, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6852 "2020-11-23T22:08:46Z")

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> [@Folacin](#):
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> > [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> > But from 95% before to 90% after the election among Republicans.
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> I’m frankly surprised it moved that much.
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> I’m much more worried about him only losing 2% of his independents’ support.

Part of his job was to get re-elected and keep the godless lizard people out of the White House, so to the extent that Republicans actually believe he lost, his job rating was bound to go down.

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**Post date:** [November 23, 2020, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6853 "2020-11-23T22:17:00Z")

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There goes MI. [Certified for Biden](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-michigan/michigan-board-of-state-canvassers-certifies-results-of-november-3-u-s-presidential-election-for-democrat-biden-idUSKBN2832Z8) despite all of the shenanigans, posturing and bad-faith theatrics.

Think he’ll shut up now? Ha, who am I kidding, of course not.

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**Post date:** [November 23, 2020, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6854 "2020-11-23T22:23:22Z")

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“To our Military: those guys we beat a hundred and fifty years ago are more important to me than you are; suck it. Signed ‘Your favorite President ever, Donald’.”

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> Racism might be his only core principle.

Of course it is - in his worldview, all races are inferior to the master race, which consists solely of Donald J. Trump, Ivanka, and maybe Don Jr. and Eric.

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> [@Folacin](#):
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> I’m much more worried about him only losing 2% of his independents’ support.

It’s not like his behavior the last two weeks should be surprising to anyone. He explicitly said he would do what he’s been doing.

I’d like to think his approval rating would be unchanged because everyone was smart enough to know how he’d react, but I guess 2% seems realistic.

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Individual 1 says he will veto the defense appropriation because it contains a provision to rename bases named for Confederates.

At first glance I misread that as “… he will veto the defense appropriation because it contains a provision to rename bases _ **for** _ Confederates”, and I thought, holy shit, a veto on that is actually reasonable. Then I read it correctly. Nothing has changed, nothing to see here. And it’s not even performance art for his racist acolytes – he really is a racist. He was charged twice by the Justice Department for refusing to rent his apartment properties to Black people.

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**Post date:** [November 23, 2020, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6858 "2020-11-23T23:22:33Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Of course it is - in his worldview, all races are inferior to the master race, which consists solely of Donald J. Trump, Ivanka, and maybe Don Jr. and Eric.

Not that the Democrats should seek to be the anti-racist party!

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The GSA has said the transition can begin.

[CNN on the transition](https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/23/politics/transition-biden-gsa-begin/index.html)

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**Post date:** [November 24, 2020, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6860 "2020-11-24T00:02:32Z")

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Hal-le-FUCKING-lu-yah!

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