# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 347
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6941 "2020-11-25T03:00:03Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > A big empty box for “Nobel prizes.” Noble. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6942 "2020-11-25T03:01:03Z")
I am not 100% onboard with this boxes idea. I mean, what did he bring into the WH to begin with? The idea of encouraging him to make off with anything that is not nailed down sounds ill-considered. Because we know he will try. He has already milked us for enough as it is. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6943 "2020-11-25T03:31:45Z")
Yup, every shipping box for the move out had better be checked thoroughly for stolen White House goods. And I worry about what a golf club could do to the Resolute desk – although perhaps he’d want to leave it intact for his second term after the Biden interregnum.I ---
**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6944 "2020-11-25T03:41:15Z")
I am guessing he will find some loophole to be able to sell the desk to himself for 1$ so no one else can sit at it. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6945 "2020-11-25T05:05:20Z")
> [@Akaj](#): > > But can we still max out the 10,000 posts by noon on Jan. 20? It’ll take almost 51 posts per day. But we don’t want to max it out - what if another scandal happens and we’ve wasted all our posts? We’re averaging 44.44 posts per day. We should use the remaining posts very judiciously. Then we can blow them all on Jan 20 if we have any left. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6946 "2020-11-25T06:15:06Z")
> [@needscoffee](#): > > We should use the remaining posts very judiciously. Couldn’t agree with this more. Yeah but that Trump guy, though - one crazy guy, that’s for sure, hey? ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6947 "2020-11-25T06:58:30Z")
> [@digs](#): > > Anyone else read this and wonder if she already snuck out? Any reports of her bags, and Barron’s, being loaded onto a black helicopter? This got me curious about any benefits she will receive as an ex-first-lady. Donald will get a pension, money to set up and staff an office anywhere in the U.S. and yearly travel expenses up to $1,000,000. Melania will get $500,000 yearly for travel. That might not be enough to keep her around. Though, she would be eligible for a $20,000 yearly pension if she was widowed. 😁 And, sadly, Donald was not a federal employee long enough to be entitled to healthcare benefits. It would suck if he had issues with his pre-existing covid condition. Maybe he should look into Obamacare. [Ex-President Benefits](https://www.ntu.org/foundation/detail/pensions-and-perks-for-former-presidents) ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6948 "2020-11-25T11:55:42Z")
Donnie is still having a temper tantrum. [https://a.msn.com/r/2/BB1blimY?m=en-us&referrerID=InAppShare](https://a.msn.com/r/2/BB1blimY?m=en-us&referrerID=InAppShare) The rest of that headline is: # **Biden says the White House is cooperating fully with his transition, but that Trump still won’t speak to him** 🤣 Dear God, that is soooo pathetic! ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6949 "2020-11-25T12:30:32Z")
Another great big baby. > **[McConnell still mum on Biden’s win as Trump administration begins transition](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-republicans-mcconnell-biden/2020/11/24/b742de9a-2e67-11eb-860d-f7999599cbc2_story.html)** > > The Senate majority leader’s ongoing silence leaves a question mark over what could be the most important Washington relationship of the next two years. > Some Republican senators have publicly acknowledged Democrat Joe Biden is the president-elect. Others have moved straight to criticizing his early Cabinet picks, even as President Trump continues to dispute the outcome of the Nov. 3 election. > > But Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), three weeks after Election Day, has still not said much of anything at all. > > McConnell’s ongoing silence, even as the Trump administration moves to allow Biden to start his transition, **leaves a question mark** over what could be the most important Washington relationship of the next two years — between an incoming president who promised to tackle the nation’s most pressing concerns and the win-at-all-costs Capitol Hill operator who may well serve as his legislative gatekeeper. > … My bold. Question mark? There’s no question mark. We know exactly who Mitch is and how he will attempt to (and mostly succeed in) blocking everything Biden tries to do. There’s no question at all. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6950 "2020-11-25T12:44:45Z")
“How many fucks would Melania give…” — in my mind, I hear Bob Dylan singing this. But I prefer the Peter, Paul, and Mary version. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6951 "2020-11-25T12:58:23Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > The rest of that headline is: > > # **Biden says the White House is cooperating fully with his transition, but that Trump still won’t speak to him** > > 🤣 > > Dear God, that is soooo pathetic! “A coward dies a thousand times before his death, but the valiant taste of death but once." ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6952 "2020-11-25T13:05:14Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > “A coward dies a thousand times before his death, but the valiant taste of death but once." “Once is enough”. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6953 "2020-11-25T13:50:05Z")
But by remaining quiet, Mitch is doing what he does best. He’s not talking shit; he’s just being a shit. It’s his trade, and as much as I loathe him, he’s good at it. Remember when Trump called out Mitch back in 2017, started trying to get others to gang up on him? People were thinking maybe Mitch was losing his control of the party and his power? Well, Trump’s gone. He’s not. He’s 78 and he’ll probably live and control the Senate another 78 years the way thins are going these days. ---
**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6954 "2020-11-25T14:38:28Z")
I strongly protest! ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6955 "2020-11-25T15:05:15Z")
[https://www.axios.com/trump-pardon-michael-flynn-131c78e2-eb58-4294-9ca1-3c5fb00bf96e.html](https://www.axios.com/trump-pardon-michael-flynn-131c78e2-eb58-4294-9ca1-3c5fb00bf96e.html) ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6956 "2020-11-25T15:13:44Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > My bold. > > Question mark? There’s no question mark. We know exactly who Mitch is and how he will attempt to (and mostly succeed in) blocking everything Biden tries to do. There’s no question at all. And to buttress your point, I’ll bold: > [@](#): > > McConnell’s ongoing silence, even as the Trump administration moves to allow Biden to start his transition, leaves a question mark over what could be the most important Washington relationship of the next two years — between an incoming president who promised to tackle the nation’s most pressing concerns and the win-at-all-costs Capitol Hill operator who may well serve as his legislative **gatekeeper**.… More like obstructing-at-every-turn-because-reasons scumbag. So much for pussyfooting reporting being a thing of the past. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6957 "2020-11-25T15:15:15Z")
Just going to put this here: [![Google Photos](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/lcMC65JT1QIavNogtyZUPWfDDyBTcRg1g-bBRWIbdbasdv_bnmHAc_QUtxUqrE0hhK413u9wo3TMBBCKIbnPz-_A658qPJtJ7sfwuNsiJGqxlJvTa6vL0jZsAQUqvCkT0_7KBRsVZQ=w600-h315-p-k "New item by John Thornton") ](https://photos.app.goo.gl/81Y7r2fwTrjayBBw6) Since Trump was elected, market valuations have almost doubled, from $20 trillion to $37.1 trillion, while the overall economy has grown from $19 trillion (as expressed in GDP) to $21.5 trillion. The gap between market valuations and GDP is the widest in history 179% market cap to GDP. Last time it even approached this level was during the [dot.com](http://dot.com) asset bubble of 2000. Anyway, for those who argue the merits (or lack of) the ‘economy’ based upon what the ‘markets’ are doing, this is yet another sobering reminder to SHUT THE FUCK UP. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6958 "2020-11-25T16:10:19Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > But by remaining quiet, Mitch is doing what he does best. He’s not talking shit; he’s just being a shit. It’s his trade, and as much as I loathe him, he’s good at it. He IS being a shit. And just plain rude! FFS, he and Biden go back 30-40 YEARS. A simple greeting won’t undermine Mitch’s stranglehold on the Senate-- or is he afraid it will? > [@asahi](#): > > He’s [Mitch McConnell] 78 and he’ll probably live and control the Senate another 78 years the way thins are going these days. When you sell your soul to the devil a long earthly life is usually part of the deal… ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6959 "2020-11-25T16:17:56Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > # **Biden says the White House is cooperating fully with his transition, but that Trump still won’t speak to him** And this is a _bad_ thing? I mean, think about it: “_Individual-ONE refuses to talk to you_” and you _complain_ about that? ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6960 "2020-11-25T17:06:43Z")
[# Georgia secretary of state says he’s a Trump voter ‘now being thrown under the bus by him’](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/georgia-secretary-of-state-says-he-s-a-trump-voter-now-being-thrown-under-the-bus-by-him/ar-BB1blNEb?ocid=msnews) > Georgia’s secretary of state on Wednesday bemoaned President Trump’s criticism of him and other elections officials in the state, saying Trump has used them as a scapegoat in the wake of his election loss. Ya don’t say! I, for one, am flabbergasted! I mean, who woulda thunk it??? 😐 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=346) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=348)