# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 352
**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2020, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7041 "2020-11-27T16:55:24Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Will he continue to get intelligence briefings once he is out of office? I think that that is standard, but we’ve never had a president who was such a security risk before. I’m really hoping trump’s and Javanka’s security clearances will all be pulled after this. They will no longer have any need for it and it only endangers the US while they have it. No future president is ever gonna ask trump, Jared, or Ivanka for their opinion on some future top secret problem (at least I hope not). ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2020, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7042 "2020-11-27T16:57:04Z")
I like how in that press conference, after getting frustrated for being asked whether or not he will concede after the electoral college vote he cuts off the reporter and calls on someone else, who then proceeds to ask him the exact same question. 😄 You can’t escape Donny boy! ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2020, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7043 "2020-11-27T16:57:15Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Will he continue to get intelligence briefings once he is out of office? I think that that is standard, but we’ve never had a president who was such a security risk before. Ex-presidents can traditionally be provided with intelligence briefings, but (a) we all know he doesn’t read the ones he gets now, and (b) since it’s a tradition and not a law, I think it’s probable that Biden can forbid those being provided. In the end, the President is the ultimate security clearance decider. ---
**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2020, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7044 "2020-11-27T17:03:42Z")
There will be a screaming hissy fit from the Right but I think it should be done anyway. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2020, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7045 "2020-11-27T17:08:06Z")
but no one would carry their voices - since what 230 does is also protect the ISP that provides the service itself. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2020, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7046 "2020-11-27T17:18:13Z")
> [@Skypist](#): > > No future president is ever gonna ask trump, Jared, or Ivanka for their opinion on some future top secret problem What, you don’t think President Ivanka would ask First Hubby Jared for his advice from time to time? ---
**Author:** ![Fluffy\_PickleSniffer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/77aa72/32.png) [@Fluffy\_PickleSniffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fluffy_PickleSniffer)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2020, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7047 "2020-11-27T17:25:27Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > > [@ThelmaLou](#): > > > > And he’s going to make sure he’s in the headlines til the day he dies > > Fine with me. > > TRUMP INDICTED BY NEW YORK STATE AG > TRUMP ORDERED TO PROVIDE DNA SAMPLE > TRUMP FIRES LAWYERS, BEGINS “PRO SE” DEFENSE > TRUMP CONVICTED ON ALL COUNTS > TRUMP BEGINS PRISON SENTENCE _sniff_ Those are beautiful headlines. I hope they come true. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2020, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7048 "2020-11-27T17:26:23Z")
> [@Fluffy\_PickleSniffer](#): > > _sniff_ Those are beautiful headlines. I hope they come true.- Good comment/screen name combo. 🤓 ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2020, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7049 "2020-11-27T17:38:01Z")
I wonder if it would be feasible for whoever gets to punish Trump to turn the top floor of his DC hotel into his prison. When I worked in the building, 31 years ago, the GSA used that floor for storage and it was accessible only from the floor below, either by staircase or a very slow hydraulic elevator. Being so close to the White House – only five blocks away – would have to be a huge blow to his ego. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2020, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7050 "2020-11-27T17:55:27Z")
> **[When he leaves office, can ex-President Trump be trusted with America's...](https://news.yahoo.com/leaves-office-ex-president-trump-110044209.html)** > > Ex-presidents are entitled to classified briefings. Some ex-intel officials think Trump shouldn't get access to any national secrets when he leaves office. ---
**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2020, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7051 "2020-11-27T18:29:33Z")
I guess there is nothing to say the ex president gets to see the same intelligence briefing as the current president. May be dumb it down and add in a few watermarks on non consequential or decoy intel and see what gets acted on by who, and then throw trump in jail. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2020, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7052 "2020-11-27T18:37:27Z")
Why would DJT be any more interested in the briefings as ex than he is as the current \ president. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2020, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7053 "2020-11-27T19:04:49Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Why would DJT be any more interested in the briefings as ex than he is as the current president. Revenge. Mischief. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2020, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7054 "2020-11-27T19:10:15Z")
Who says he’d be the only one looking at them? ---
**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2020, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7055 "2020-11-27T19:10:41Z")
Profit. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2020, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7056 "2020-11-27T19:12:12Z")
He’s just asking for a friend. I guess at least, as ex-president, he would no longer have the authority to declassify intel, so if he _did_ share or tweet it, he’d actually be in legal jeopardy. ---
**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2020, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7057 "2020-11-27T20:00:30Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > It’s _two weeks_ from whatever day it currently is. [![](https://i.imgflip.com/4o2xdm.jpg) ](https://i.imgflip.com/4o2xdm.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2020, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7058 "2020-11-27T20:16:46Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > TRUMP BEGINS PRISON SENTENCE Which one? By my calculations, he’ll be in there for the next 4,345,551 years. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2020, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7059 "2020-11-27T20:18:40Z")
It is almost getting routine, but yet another court (this time the 3rd Circuit Court of Appeals) slaps down the idiocy of Asshole in Chief’s election lawsuits. My favorite parts of [the opinion](https://www2.ca3.uscourts.gov/opinarch/203371np.pdf) include: “Free, fair elections are the lifeblood of our democracy. Charges of unfairness are serious. But calling an election unfair does not make it so. Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here.” “Nor does the Campaign deserve an injunction to undo Pennsylvania’s certification of its votes. The Campaign’s claims have no merit. The number of ballots it specifically challenges is far smaller than the roughly 81,000-vote margin of victory. And it never claims fraud or that any votes were cast by illegal voters. Plus, tossing out millions of mail-in ballots would be drastic and unprecedented, disenfranchising a huge swath of the electorate and upsetting all down-ballot races too. That remedy would be grossly disproportionate to the procedural challenges raised.” And my favorite part is that the Court assessed costs against the campaign, so they have to pay whatever expenses the appeal cost the State of Pennsylvania. Finally, a court hitting the campaign in the only way they give a crap about, money. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2020, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7060 "2020-11-27T20:22:12Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > It is almost getting routine, but yet another court (this time the 3rd Circuit Court of Appeals) slaps down the idiocy of Asshole in Chief’s election lawsuits. My favorite parts of [the opinion](https://www2.ca3.uscourts.gov/opinarch/203371np.pdf) include: - Even better, the judge is a Trump appointee. Guess he didn’t get the memo. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=351) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=353)