# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 356
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2020, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7121 "2020-11-30T02:06:24Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > the attitude of not giving a shit about much of anything except golf And holding rallies for his adoring flock. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2020, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7122 "2020-11-30T02:23:43Z")
Not really Trump admin news but it is related to the admin: > **[Source: Pa. lawmaker gets a positive test at Trump meeting](https://apnews.com/article/doug-mastriano-positive-virus-trump-70354ddc031781fb7ee476809a6b67db)** > > HARRISBURG, Pa. (AP) — A Pennsylvania state senator abruptly left a West Wing meeting with President Donald Trump after being informed he had tested positive for the coronavirus, a person with direct knowledge of the meeting told The Associated Press... > [@](#): > > A Pennsylvania state senator abruptly left a West Wing meeting with President Donald Trump after being informed he had tested positive for the coronavirus, a person with direct knowledge of the meeting told The Associated Press on Sunday. > > Republican state Sen. Doug Mastriano had gone to the White House last Wednesday with like-minded Republican state lawmakers shortly after a four-hour-plus public meeting that Mastriano helped host in Gettysburg — maskless — to discuss efforts to overturn president-elect Joe Biden’s victory in the state. > > Trump told Mastriano that White House medical personnel would take care of him, his son and his son’s friend, who were also there for the Oval Office meeting and tested positive. The meeting continued after Mastriano and the others left, the person said. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2020, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7123 "2020-11-30T02:41:41Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Trump told Mastriano that White House medical personnel would take care of him, his son and his son’s friend, “Take care of”? By doing what? ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2020, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7124 "2020-11-30T02:43:03Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Republican state Sen. Doug Mastriano He’s the loudmouth that was the co-sponsor of a resolution a couple of days ago. > The resolution, introduced in conjunction with counterparts in the House of Representatives, disapproves and rejects the Secretary of Commonwealth’s premature certification of the results of the November 3 vote pertaining to presidential electors. > > The legislative resolution directs State Department Secretary Kathy Boockvar to withdraw and vacate the certification of the presidential election. > **[Mastriano Measure Seeks Election Accountability - Senator Mastriano](https://senatormastriano.com/2020/11/27/mastriano-measure-seeks-election-accountability/)** > > State Senator Doug Mastriano (R-33) proposed a legislative measure today that seeks accountability associated with the 2020 general election. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2020, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7125 "2020-11-30T02:44:24Z")
By signing them up for the new, private TrumpCare plans. It is open season, after all, and two weeks have come up for TrumpCare to be rolled out. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2020, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7126 "2020-11-30T03:18:21Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > > > Republican state Sen. Doug Mastriano > > He’s the loudmouth that was the co-sponsor of a resolution a couple of days ago. > > > The resolution, introduced in conjunction with counterparts in the House of Representatives, disapproves and rejects the Secretary of Commonwealth’s premature certification of the results of the November 3 vote pertaining to presidential electors. > > > > The legislative resolution directs State Department Secretary Kathy Boockvar to withdraw and vacate the certification of the presidential election. > > [https://senatormastriano.com/2020/11/27/mastriano-measure-seeks-election-accountability/](https://senatormastriano.com/2020/11/27/mastriano-measure-seeks-election-accountability/) I gather this hasn’t actually come up for a vote in either chamber of the PA legislature, correct? I also understood the PA State Supreme Court has basically said the certification is a done deal, yes? And didn’t SCOTUS rule the absentee ballots can and should be counted? Maybe I got that last one wrong but I’m rather certain this is a laughably dumb maneuver on the part of these yahoos. Pretty sure they can’t change the rules after the election. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7127 "2020-11-30T03:36:06Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > Maybe I got that last one wrong but I’m rather certain this is a laughably dumb maneuver on the part of these yahoos. Pretty sure they can’t change the rules after the election. It won’t stop them from trying. The PA GOP is both asinine and corrupt. If they don’t succeed (which is unlikely to say the least), I suspect they’ll try to get the (BIPARTISAN!) change that allowed _no excuse needed for mail-in ballots_ changed to _no excuse is sufficient for mail-in ballots, voting will only be in-person_. Better yet, they’ll try to get the electoral slate chosen by the legislature in all future elections, because _obviously_ if the people elected them to office, they will do what the people want. Note that PA is heavily gerrymandered to favor electing GOP candidates so despite having far more Democrats than Republicans, both chambers are controlled by Republicans. I seriously want districts to be drawn by computer algorithm (basically, most compact area containing requisite population, don’t split districts down the middle of streets or houses), but I don’t see that happening unless another federal voting rights act mandates that gerrymandering isn’t allowed in any state ever again. Might even take a Constitutional Amendment. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2020, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7128 "2020-11-30T05:57:06Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > > > Trump told Mastriano that White House medical personnel would take care of him, his son and his son’s friend, > > “Take care of”? By doing what? [Probably something like this…](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ewVwSrVSKS4) ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2020, 10:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7129 "2020-11-30T10:43:21Z")
> [@smithsb](#): > > That’s nearly $23,000.00 per vote. That Soros guy has some deep pockets. Where do I sign up? > > Wait. What? DumpsterFire’s campaign paid for them. Wow, that’s really advanced multi-dimensional chess right there. Biden (in my mind): “See, Donald, _that’s_ how you get someone else to pay for something that benefits you. If only you’d tried that on Mexico, you’d have an actual wall now.” ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2020, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7130 "2020-11-30T20:51:47Z")
kKayleigh McNinny is whining that the media is reporting that the Biden communications staff are all women. According to Kayleigh, their staff is all women, too. Except for all of those men. > **[Analysis | Kayleigh McEnany’s peculiar complaint about coverage of Biden’s...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/11/30/mcenany-female-press-team/)** > > McEnany claimed the Trump White House did it first. But three of the seven women the Biden team just announced will be in jobs now held by men. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2020, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7131 "2020-11-30T20:54:20Z")
Individual 1 attorney Lin Wood says he won’t take the Moderna vaccine because it’s a Bill Gates vaccine, and Gates wants to cut the world population. Not so sure Bill Gates will get Emergency Approval for Moderna. Moderna is Gates vaccine. Gates urges depopulation theory (smaller servant class ruled by & service elite). 1+1 = 2. I will NEVER take Moderna or ANY Gates vaccine. I will rely on immune system created by God. [https://twitter.com/LLinWood/status/1333450428240039938](https://twitter.com/LLinWood/status/1333450428240039938) ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2020, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7132 "2020-11-30T20:58:24Z")
Individual 1: " Why won’t Governor [@BrianKempGA](https://twitter.com/BrianKempGA) , the hapless Governor of Georgia, use his emergency powers, which can be easily done, to overrule his obstinate Secretary of State, and do a match of signatures on envelopes. It will be a “goldmine” of fraud, and we will easily WIN the state… Also, quickly check the number of envelopes versus the number of ballots. You may just find that there are many more ballots than there are envelopes. So simple, and so easy to do. Georgia Republicans are angry, all Republicans are angry. Get it done!" > Kemp;s reply: “The Secretary of State, who is an elected constitutional officer, has oversight over elections that cannot be overridden by executive order,” > **[Gov. Kemp responds to Trump's comments, says law prohibits him from...](https://www.11alive.com/article/news/politics/elections/kemp-response-to-trump-about-president-elections-in-georgia/85-461b3981-3483-4cbc-a5fb-97dec5727ffd)** > > The Georgia governor said the Secretary of State "has oversight over elections that cannot be overridden by executive order." ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2020, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7133 "2020-11-30T21:20:16Z")
From CNN: > Raffensperger insisted during a press conference that “the truth matters” and pushed back against the “massive” spigot of election disinformation being spread by Trump and Republican allies. > > “There are those who are exploiting the emotions of many Trump supporters with fantastic claims, half-truths, misinformation, and frankly, they are misleading the President as well, apparently,” he said. Fantastic claims, half-truths, misinformation. That is what the Trumpers are pushing now. According to elected Republicans. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2020, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7134 "2020-11-30T21:27:11Z")
If a cluster of relatively sane Republicans are ready to break away from the Magats, I stand ready to repudiate my allegiance to antifa. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2020, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7135 "2020-11-30T21:29:09Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > From CNN: > > > **Raffensperger insisted during a press conference that “the truth matters” and pushed back against the “massive” spigot of election disinformation being spread by Trump and Republican allies.** > > > > “There are those who are exploiting the emotions of many Trump supporters with fantastic claims, half-truths, misinformation, and frankly, they are misleading the President as well, apparently,” he said. > > Fantastic claims, half-truths, misinformation. That is what the Trumpers are pushing now. According to elected Republicans. - This from a guy who voted almost 95% with Trump. Me thinks the rodent is fleeing a descending vessel. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2020, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7136 "2020-11-30T21:31:25Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > I will rely on immune system created by God. That worked out well for… (checks Snowboarder’s latest post) …1,465,181 dead people. > [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > do a match of signatures on envelopes How _essackly_ is this supposed to work??? I thought that once the poll worker person matched the signatures, they separated the ballots from the envelopes and threw the envelopes away **BECAUSE IT’S A SECRET BALLOT**!! You should not be able to match signatures with marked ballots. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2020, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7137 "2020-11-30T21:39:08Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I thought that once the poll worker person matched the signatures, they separated the ballots from the envelopes and threw the envelopes away **BECAUSE IT’S A SECRET BALLOT**!! You should not be able to match signatures with marked ballots. You are absolutely correct. However, you are talking about the real world. And the Trumpers do not care for reality. They now live in a world of complete fabrication and fantasy. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2020, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7138 "2020-11-30T21:59:42Z")
“Hapless”? I gotta throw a ghost-writer flag on that one. That’s a word not in Trump’s 3rd-grade vocabulary. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2020, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7139 "2020-11-30T22:02:17Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Individual 1 attorney Lin Wood says he won’t take the Moderna vaccine because it’s a Bill Gates vaccine, and Gates wants to cut the world population. > Not so sure Bill Gates will get Emergency Approval for Moderna. > Moderna is Gates vaccine. Gates urges depopulation theory (smaller servant class ruled by & service elite). > 1+1 = 2. > I will NEVER take Moderna or ANY Gates vaccine. > I will rely on immune system created by God. I’ve been posting far worse. It has a chip for tracking you from SOCG1 headquarters in the Comet Ping Pong Pizza basement. THEY can alter your votes, your personality, and steal your guns remotely. Any Trumpist taking this or any vaccine runs the risk of spiraling dementia, random capitalIZATION, and permanently altered reality. Doctors and nurses are in on it too. Medical advice should only be taken from DumpsterFire himself. Hydroxychloroquine, bleach, disinfectants taken via injection, and UV bulbs crammed up one’s ass are the real cure. Oh, and thought and prayers. All currently available from any number of advertisers on fine networks like Faux, One America, various white-wing radio telecasts and parler. 1Soros Obama Clinton Gates ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2020, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7140 "2020-11-30T22:16:38Z")
> [@smithsb](#): > > Any Trumpist taking this or any vaccine runs the risk of spiraling dementia, random capitalIZATION, and permanently altered reality.- Question: How will we know?? 🤔 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=355) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=357)