# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2020, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7141 "2020-11-30T22:41:50Z")

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for MAGAts, there is but one reliable cure for those conditions

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7142 "2020-12-01T00:12:23Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> Note that PA is heavily gerrymandered to favor electing GOP candidates so despite having far more Democrats than Republicans, both chambers are controlled by Republicans. I seriously want districts to be drawn by computer algorithm (basically, most compact area containing requisite population, don’t split districts down the middle of streets or houses), but I don’t see that happening unless another federal voting rights act mandates that gerrymandering isn’t allowed in any state ever again. Might even take a Constitutional Amendment.

Outlawing gerrymandering nationwide would ultimately made changes in our daily lives that can best be described as “revolutionary.” And in a good way.

(Recall that when Obama left office, this was the cause he immediately embraced as the best use of his time—and he’s no dummy.)

It might almost be worth trying the Amendment process, even though that would be fraught with danger, given that right-wing social-issues activists are poised to take advantage of any Constitutional conventions in order to roll back SCOTUS decisions on gay marriage, civil rights, etc.

But even so.

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> Outlawing gerrymandering nationwide would ultimately made changes in our daily lives that can best be described as “revolutionary.” And in a good way.

Voting rights (and I include stopping gerrymandering as a part of voting right) needs to be the number issue that Democrats push in 2021.

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**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7144 "2020-12-01T01:30:55Z")

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drawing up voting districts should be in the hands of a non partisan agency - how is that so hard?

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7145 "2020-12-01T01:54:13Z")

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It’s not hard at all. But some political parties in a position of power don’t want it. So it doesn’t get done.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
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Donald Trump Concession Speeches

[https://www.instagram.com/p/CHrFU6qgMZ7/?hl=en](https://www.instagram.com/p/CHrFU6qgMZ7/?hl=en)

> **[r/EnoughTrumpSpam - Liz Plank cut together the concession speech we all need...](https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughTrumpSpam/comments/ju940l/liz_plank_cut_together_the_concession_speech_we/)**
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> 9 votes and 1 comment so far on Reddit

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7147 "2020-12-01T02:07:07Z")

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It’s not hard if you build it into your system of governance.

It’s hard if your system is screwed up from the get-go.

[In Canada:](https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?section=res&dir=cir/red&document=index&lang=e) Electoral districts are created and altered by Elections Canada:

> **Elections Canada** is the independent, non-partisan agency responsible for conducting federal elections and referendums.
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> The Constitution of Canada requires that federal electoral districts be reviewed after each decennial (10-year) census to reflect changes and movements in Canada’s population. The (last) federal redistribution process began in February 2012. The process was led by independent commissions working separately in each province to establish electoral boundaries.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7148 "2020-12-01T02:15:23Z")

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How many scaramuccis did he last?

> **[Trump science adviser Scott Atlas leaving White House job](https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-public-health-anthony-fauci-coronavirus-pandemic-infectious-diseases-97e053b48803b0dced260032ea7aabbc)**
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> WASHINGTON (AP) — Dr. Scott Atlas, a science adviser to President Donald Trump who was skeptical of measures to control the coronavirus outbreak, is leaving his White House post...

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> How many scaramuccis did he last?

Eleven.

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TLTE: The article says:

> Atlas was hired as a “special government employee,” which limited his service to government to 130 days in a calendar year — a deadline he reached this week.

By my calculation (08/10/2020 to 11/30/2020), he lasted 11 scaramuccis. If the article is correct, then he lasted 13 scaramuccis.

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> [@smithsb](#):
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> > [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> > Individual 1 attorney Lin Wood says he won’t take the Moderna vaccine because it’s a Bill Gates vaccine, and Gates wants to cut the world population.  
> > Not so sure Bill Gates will get Emergency Approval for Moderna.  
> > Moderna is Gates vaccine. Gates urges depopulation theory (smaller servant class ruled by & service elite).  
> > 1+1 = 2.  
> > I will NEVER take Moderna or ANY Gates vaccine.  
> > I will rely on immune system created by God.
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> I’ve been posting far worse. It has a chip for tracking you from SOCG1 headquarters in the Comet Ping Pong Pizza basement. THEY can alter your votes, your personality, and steal your guns remotely. Any Trumpist taking this or any vaccine runs the risk of spiraling dementia, random capitalIZATION, and permanently altered reality. Doctors and nurses are in on it too. Medical advice should only be taken from DumpsterFire himself. Hydroxychloroquine, bleach, disinfectants taken via injection, and UV bulbs crammed up one’s ass are the real cure. Oh, and thought and prayers. All currently available from any number of advertisers on fine networks like Faux, One America, various white-wing radio telecasts and parler.
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> 1Soros Obama Clinton Gates

_Soon, very soon, it’ll make all the paint peel off your wall._  
_It’ll make your keyboard all sticky/Give your poodle a hickey/and invest your cash in stocks in EuroDisney…_

_Vaccine Virus Alert_ Yankovic (attrib.)

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7152 "2020-12-01T06:34:41Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> for MAGAts, there is but one reliable cure for those conditions

[![](https://www.chick.com/images/tracts/0072/0072_05.gif) ](https://www.chick.com/images/tracts/0072/0072_05.gif)

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7153 "2020-12-01T13:56:59Z")

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Awww… this is bee-YOU-tee-full! Finally an honest self-assessment from The Donald. This is the film he should be propped up in front of with toothpicks holding his eyes open and made to watch many hundreds of times.

It’s telling that the only way to make truth come out of his lyin’ mouth is to create a sound-bite crazy quilt.

Happy birthday, @CalMeacham! 🍾 🥂

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7154 "2020-12-01T14:19:51Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Happy birthday, @CalMeacham! 🍾 🥂

Thanks

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**Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7155 "2020-12-01T14:27:22Z")

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> **[White House planning a packed season of holiday parties](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/white-house-planning-a-packed-season-of-holiday-parties/2020/11/30/9ae209f2-3389-11eb-a997-1f4c53d2a747_story.html)**
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> The first such party, on Monday afternoon, included guests defying guidelines on masks and social distancing.

> The White House began the annual holiday party season on Monday afternoon, officials said, kicking off a spate of indoor holiday parties that commemorate various religious traditions over the season.
> 
> While many public health professionals have asked Americans not to congregate in large group settings and avoid travel over the holidays because of the [coronavirus](https://www.washingtonpost.com/coronavirus/?itid=lk_inline_manual_2) pandemic that has killed more than 266,000 Americans and infected 13 million more, the White House is expected to throw more than a dozen indoor parties, including a large congressional ball on Dec. 10, officials say.
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> The parties will be paid for by the Republican Party, a person with knowledge of the planning said, and will cost millions of dollars.
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> The president and the first lady are determined to have a final holiday season in the White House, officials said, and concerns about spiking cases and deaths across the country have not stopped the events. Many of the administration’s supporters have taken a skeptical view of the restrictions over the virus and are choosing to attend, officials said.  
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The beverage of choice will be Kool-Aid. 🥤

In other news, [Melania’s WH Christmas decorations](https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/first-lady-melania-trump-unveils-2020-white-house-christmas-decor/) are surprisingly normal-looking. They’re actually quite beautiful. Makes me think she had nothing to do with them.

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Either that, or knowing that they’ll be out of the White House and she won’t have to be FLotUS anymore put her in such a good mood she actually felt like doing something pretty rather than passive-aggressive.

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**Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7157 "2020-12-01T15:23:32Z")

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Has anyone checked what decorations Michelle Obama used? They might be the same…

`//i\\`

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**Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7158 "2020-12-01T16:01:10Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Kemp;s reply:  
> “The Secretary of State, who is an elected constitutional officer, has oversight over elections that cannot be overridden by executive order,”

That’s great but it would have been nice if he added, “Even if I had the power to do so, I would not override him. There is simply no basis for the claim of fraud.”. Too much to ask, I guess.

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> The beverage of choice will be Kool-Aid. 🥤

I _cannot_ allow this insult to continue!  
The drink of choice at the Jonestown Massacre was NOT Kool-Aid-it was grape Flavor Aid.

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This article describes her video tour of the decorations as “a one minute trailer for a movie about a woman who wakes up in a castle one holiday season and goes searching for the person who spiked her eggnog with mushrooms”.

> **[Perspective | Everything we needed to know about Melania Trump is in those...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/melania-trump-christmas-white-house/2020/11/30/a0f21210-331b-11eb-8d38-6aea1adb3839_story.html)**
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> Four years of White House decor give us whatever insight there was to be had into the first lady.

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