# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 364
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7281 "2020-12-04T20:59:46Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > Some of us would be quite relieved to see Obama: The Sequel. > [@Pleonast](#): > > Those are not bad things. “Obama: The Sequel” is fine I agree with both of you. Just looking down the road… > [@Pleonast](#): > > And criticism from the left will strengthen Biden’s negotiating position–he can be the reasonable person in the room. That’s a perspective I hadn’t thought of. Please expand a bit. To whom will he seem the “reasonable person in the room”? ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7282 "2020-12-04T21:07:15Z")
The new citizenship exam has questions biased towards the Individual 1 viewpoint. For example, “Who does a US Senator represent?” Answer: “The citizens of their state.” Note, not “the people who live in their state.” > **[Trump’s New Citizenship Test Is Full of Conservative Bias—And Dotted With...](https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/12/03/trumps-new-citizenship-test-is-full-of-conservative-biasand-dotted-with-mistakes-442777)** > > People seeking U.S. citizenship deserve better. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7283 "2020-12-04T21:11:28Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Answer: “The citizens of their state.” Note, not “the people who live in their state.” I think that answer opens up a whole raft of problems – like (as I understand it) states don’t have “citizens”, they have “residents”. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7284 "2020-12-04T21:23:07Z")
Just fired the pentagon advisory board, replacing them with highly qualified individuals like David Bossie and Corey Lewandowski ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7285 "2020-12-04T21:24:12Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > To whom will he seem the “reasonable person in the room”? To the political center. He can credibly tell them he’s listening to everyone and this is the reasonable thing to do. To the left, he can say a step in the right direction means we’re going in the right direction. Support this and then we can take the next step. To the right, he can say whatever is politically expedient because they won’t listen anyway. His audience is the American people. He needs to get Senators (both Democratic and Republican) in purple states to feel heat for not passing legislation. Biden’s coalition is center-left, with the center in the lead. That’s the current reality and everyone needs to accept that even if they don’t like it. The left needs to make noise, but when it comes time to vote on bills, every Democratic Senator needs to be on board. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7286 "2020-12-04T21:54:04Z")
To the passengers on this bus who don’t want the driver’s job to be as difficult as possible. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7287 "2020-12-04T22:50:37Z")
This cheered me a bit, only because it will surely cause McConnell to tear out (what’s left of) his hair: > **[Trump campaign files election lawsuit in Georgia, suffers more legal defeats](https://www.reuters.com/article/usa-election/trump-campaign-says-it-has-filed-election-lawsuit-in-georgia-state-court-idUSKBN28E37D?il=0)** > > Donald Trump's campaign said it filed a lawsuit in Georgia state court on Friday seeking to invalidate the presidential election results there, the latest in a series of legal challenges aimed at reversing his loss that have so far gone nowhere. We need those two seats in the Senate, boy howdy. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7288 "2020-12-04T23:05:41Z")
> [@Pleonast](#): > > Biden’s coalition is center-left, with the center in the lead. That is absurd. Joe Biden is a corporatist. His coalition is center-right. The left voted for him because they would have voted for an inanimate carbon rod just to mitigate the damage of Trumthulhu. The actual left is not at all enthusiastic about him, apart from the fact that he does not become hopelessly entangled in the treacherous word jungle and is able to drink beverages with one hand. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7289 "2020-12-04T23:51:36Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > Yeah I think it looks a lot better than the [current one](https://www.google.com/search?q=airforce+1&tbm=isch&chips=q:airforce+1,g_1:plane:b0ELZQ4aIg8%3D&client=firefox-b-1-e&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjEyeafrq7tAhVFHd8KHZu5D5gQ4lYoAHoECAEQGQ&biw=1612&bih=970). I agree that the baby blue just doesn’t work. No I have to go scrub myself with Brillo pads to get off the stink of agreeing with Trump. I like the light blue. It’s very distinctive. I’ve seen it at LAX several times over the years, and it’s always obvious you’re looking at AF1. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2020, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7290 "2020-12-05T00:38:03Z")
Individual 1 blames the “Democrat stronghold” USPS for his loss. > **[Trump blames ‘Democrat’ postal service, led by his nominee, for loss](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/trump-dejoy-usps-fraud-democrat-b1766570.html)** > > The president spent months ahead of the election demonizing the Postal Service and mail-in voting, even as his handpicked nominee led the agency ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2020, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7291 "2020-12-05T01:34:01Z")
And the weird goes on… ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2020, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7292 "2020-12-05T01:37:40Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Individual 1 blames the “Democrat stronghold” USPS for his loss. Look how diverse he is: now he’s throwing people under mail trucks. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2020, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7293 "2020-12-05T02:08:06Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Just fired the pentagon advisory board, replacing them with highly qualified individuals like David Bossie and Corey Lewandowski Am I the only one who wishes the generals in the Pentagon just treat these two asswipes with the respect they deserve, and simply refuse to meet with them at all? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2020, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7294 "2020-12-05T02:10:42Z")
> [@Pleonast](#): > > Biden’s coalition is center-left, with the center in the lead. From the perspective of The Rest of The World, Biden is to the Right, not even within sniffing distance of the center. The Republicans are, at the moment, basically in North Korea territory. (edit) also what [eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal) said. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2020, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7295 "2020-12-05T02:26:37Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Am I the only one who wishes the generals in the Pentagon just treat these two asswipes with the respect they deserve, and simply refuse to meet with them at all? Treating them with the respect they deserve would be giving them shovels and sending them to deepen some field latrine pits without taking the field latrines out of service. ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2020, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7296 "2020-12-05T02:54:42Z")
Maybe have them vacuum the parking lot. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2020, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7297 "2020-12-05T03:56:43Z")
I’m sure Robert Lewandowski must be sickened to have the same name as Corey’s. ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2020, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7298 "2020-12-05T04:18:04Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > And the weird goes on… I stole this, but The grift goes on La de da de di La de da de da ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2020, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7299 "2020-12-05T05:55:43Z")
The Individual 1 administration is preventing the Biden transition team from meeting with Pentagon intel. > **[Trump Admin Blocks Biden Transition Team From Meeting With Intel Leaders: Report](https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-admin-blocks-biden-transition-team-from-meeting-with-intel-leaders-report-says)** > > Officials cited by The Washington Post say Biden advisers have been unable to get the latest intelligence on possible espionage operations because of the delays. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2020, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7300 "2020-12-05T23:06:41Z")
The Washington Post surveyed every Republican in Congress. 26 said they believe that Biden won the election. Two said they believe Individual 1 won the election. All others said they don’t know. And Individual 1 is demanding to know the names of all of the Republicans who said Biden won. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=363) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=365)