# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7421 "2020-12-09T00:02:07Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> > [@Akaj](#):
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> > > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> > > No surprise:  
> > > [Trump adviser broke law with Biden criticism, watchdog says | AP News](https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-joe-biden-donald-trump-global-trade-media-5685903ea82ed6c8691376b27e2d7ce4)
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> > From the article:
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> > > The report said it’s up to the president to determine the “appropriate disciplinary action,” showing the limits of the law.
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> > Oh, boy, I bet Navarro’s worried now!
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> Yeah he’s probably going to lose his job in January.

Years ago someone with a reputation such as Navarro has earned would be lucky to find a job in talk radio. Other than that, he could send out mimeographed newsletters with his right-wing stylings and hope that enough people would send him subscription-fees to keep bread on his table.

Now, of course, there’s an entire right-wing alternate economy: think tanks, lobbying firms, media (Fox et al), a public-speaking circuit, book sales, etc. A lot of it was initially funded by the Koch brothers and their ilk, but it’s going pretty well now even without the black money.

In other words: as disgusting as it may be, Navarro and his fellow distorters of fact will be just fine.

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**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7422 "2020-12-09T00:07:45Z")

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> [@TroutMan](#):
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> Charge $10 to take a piss on Trump’s home, $20 to take a dump. I bet you could recoup your $3M investment.

😆

I’m pretty sure you could make a LOT more than 3 million.

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**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7423 "2020-12-09T01:51:35Z")

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Actually, I think he just wants people to “owe” him and tell him how great he is.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7424 "2020-12-09T02:10:56Z")

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I got 5 dollars that says Ghislaine Maxwell gets a pardon.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7425 "2020-12-09T02:28:00Z")

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Supreme Court [rejects](https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/08/politics/supreme-court-pennsylvania-trump-biden/index.html) Pennsylvania challenge of the election results.

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**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7426 "2020-12-09T02:45:22Z")

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Biden wins the election again! I, for one, am not tired of all this winning.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7427 "2020-12-09T13:09:29Z")

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Is that what they are going for these days?

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7428 "2020-12-09T15:03:27Z")

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A couple of 13-y/os and an 11-y/o to be named later.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7429 "2020-12-09T15:21:40Z")

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> [@WolfpackJeep](#):
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> > [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> > I frelling HATE that photo. I do NOT need to know he wears tighty-whities.
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> I’ve succeeded in convincing myself that it’s 'shopped.
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> It is, isn’t it???

Indeed it is. Granted, they could only do so much to make him appear svelte…

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7430 "2020-12-09T16:35:36Z")

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After Trump Sharpie’d that hurricane path to include more of the gulf coast, a friend did the same to the Trump tennis photo. It was great…“Trump changes reality and loses thirty pounds of butt fat with one swipe of the Executive Sharpie.”

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7431 "2020-12-09T17:05:49Z")

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Decapitation seems a bit extreme.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7432 "2020-12-09T19:17:35Z")

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Contractors building WALL have brought in undocumented Mexican workers.

> **[Whistleblowers Say Armed Mexicans Were Smuggled Into U.S. to Provide Security...](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/12/whistleblowers-armed-mexicans-smuggled-security-border-wall-construction.html)**
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> One subcontractor even built a road across the border to bring armed security across.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7433 "2020-12-09T19:18:15Z")

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Russian media want Putin to give Individual 1 asylum.

> **[Russian Media Wants Moscow to Grant Asylum to Trump](https://www.thedailybeast.com/russian-media-wants-moscow-to-grant-asylum-to-trump-to-help-him-dodge-prosecutions)**
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> Russian media and lawmakers are concerned about the future of the Kremlin’s favorite U.S. president.

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**Author:** ![casdave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c6cbf5/32.png) [@casdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/casdave)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7434 "2020-12-09T19:32:40Z")

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Oh, I dunno really - there are always exceptions

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7435 "2020-12-09T19:54:15Z")

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> **[Rep. Swalwell says Trump criticism behind spy story](https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/08/swalwell-trump-criticism-spy-story-443845)**
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> The California Democrat says the president is trying to make him look bad.

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**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7436 "2020-12-09T20:37:24Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Russian media want Putin to give Individual 1 asylum.

I think that’s a GREAT idea.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7437 "2020-12-09T20:52:36Z")

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a·sy·lum

/əˈsīləm/

_noun_

an institution offering shelter and support to people who are mentally ill.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7438 "2020-12-09T23:48:22Z")

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The Attorneys General of Louisiana and Alabama say they are considering joining the Texas AG’s lawsuit to overturn the election. Individual 1 tweeted, “We will be INTERVENING in the Texas (plus many other states) case. This is the big one. Our Country needs a victory!”

> **[Trump pledges to intervene in ‘insane’ Texas election challenge](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/trump-texas-election-legal-challenge-b1768666.html)**
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> ‘How can you have a presidency when a vast majority think the election was RIGGED?’

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7439 "2020-12-09T23:50:46Z")

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Question: If Individual 1 intervenes, doesn’t this mean that it’s no longer state vs. state, and have to be heard by a lower court?

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2020, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7440 "2020-12-10T00:13:06Z")

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Pretty much. And if Trump can “intervene”, it clearly is NOT a case that can’t be dealt with elsewhere, and so the Supremes don’t need to get involved.

Some news site had a headline saying how Trump undid his case with one tweet…

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