# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 374
**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2020, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7481 "2020-12-12T00:53:10Z")
Ah, I see. Thanks. P.S. Fuck’m regardless. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2020, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7482 "2020-12-12T00:57:55Z")
What the Don needs right now is a good wholesome campaign rally to boost his sagging spirits. Seen in Fox comments: “Kavanaugh, Gorsuch and Barrett are Deep State scabs who showed no loyalty to Trump for their nominations.” ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2020, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7483 "2020-12-12T01:02:52Z")
Alito and Thomas are horrible, but in this instance they’re being consistent. They believe that SCOTUS is legally obligated to hear cases in which SCOTUS has “original jurisdiction.” They have held this in the past as well, in cases that were not so politically charged - specifically, with regards to states suing neighbouring states over marijuana legalization. The idea that SCOTUS should have such an obligation is not ridiculous. I would be very surprised if, had the case been heard, they would not have signed on to a 9-0 decision that it was BS of the highest order. Bleh. Don’t make me defend Clarence Thomas. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2020, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7484 "2020-12-12T01:21:29Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > The technology and justification to do this was well demonstrated in the creation of the massive concrete “sarcophagus” over the dangerously failed Chernobyl reactor. At least this if not more would be required over the lair of Javanka. “The lair of Javanka” sounds like it ought to be the title of an old D&D adventure module. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2020, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7485 "2020-12-12T01:38:31Z")
He needs to hold a rally now in Lose-iana. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2020, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7486 "2020-12-12T03:34:43Z")
Cowards and traitors. 1. [The Onion’ Salutes The Courageous Legislators Determined To Overturn The Will Of Voters](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496) 2. [U.S. Rep. Mike Johnson: Fourth Congressional District of Louisiana](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/2) 3. [U.S. Rep. Gary Palmer: Sixth Congressional District of Alabama](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/3) 4. [U.S. Rep. Steve Scalise: First Congressional District of Louisiana](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/4) 5. [U.S. Rep. Jim Jordan: Fourth Congressional District of Ohio](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/5) 6. [U.S. Rep. Ralph Abraham: Fifth Congressional District of Louisiana](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/6) 7. [U.S. Rep. Rick W. Allen: 12th Congressional District of Georgia](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/7) 8. [U.S. Rep. James R. Baird: Fourth Congressional District of Indiana](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/8) 9. [U.S. Rep. Jim Banks: Third Congressional District of Indiana](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/9) 10. [U.S. Rep.Jack Bergman: First Congressional District of Michigan](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/10) 11. [U.S. Rep. Andy Biggs: Fifth Congressional District of Arizona](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/11) 12. [U.S. Rep. Gus Bilirakis: 12th Congressional District of Florida](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/12) 13. [U.S. Rep. Dan Bishop: Ninth Congressional District of North Carolina](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/13) 14. [U.S. Rep. Mike Bost: 12th Congressional District of Illinois](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/14) 15. [U.S. Rep. Kevin Brady: Eighth Congressional District of Texas](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/15) 16. [U.S. Rep. Mo Brooks: Fifth Congressional District of Alabama](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/16) 17. [U.S. Rep. Ken Buck: Fourth Congressional District of Colorado](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/17) 18. [U.S. Rep. Ted Budd: 13th Congressional District of North Carolina](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/18) 19. [U.S. Rep. Tim Burchett: Second Congressional District of Tennessee](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/19) 20. [U.S. Rep. Michael C. Burgess: 26th Congressional District of Texas](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/20) 21. [U.S. Rep. Bradley Byrne: First Congressional District of Alabama](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/21) 22. [U.S. Rep. Ken Calvert: 42nd Congressional District of California](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/22) 23. [U.S. Re. Earl L. “Buddy” Carter: First Congressional District of Georgia](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/23) 24. [U.S. Rep. Ben Cline: Sixth Congressional District of Virginia](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/24) 25. [U.S. Rep. Michael Cloud: 27th Congressional District of Texas](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/25) 26. [U.S. Rep. Mike Conaway: 11th Congressional District of Texas](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/26) 27. [U.S. Rep. Rick Crawford: First Congressional District of Arkansas](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/27) 28. [U.S. Rep. Dan Crenshaw: Second Congressional District of Texas](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/28) 29. [U.S. Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart: 25th Congressional District of Florida](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/29) 30. [U.S. Rep. Jeff Duncan: Third Congressional District of South Carolina](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/30) 31. [U.S. Rep. Neal P. Dunn, M.D.: Second Congressional District of Florida](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/31) 32. [U.S. Rep. Tom Emmer: Sixth Congressional District of Minnesota](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/32) 33. [U.S. Rep. Ron Estes: Fourth Congressional District of Kansas](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/33) 34. [U.S. Rep. A. Drew Ferguson, IV: Third Congressional District of Georgia](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/34) 35. [U.S. Rep. Chuck Fleischmann: Third Congressional District of Tennessee](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/35) 36. [U.S. Rep. Bill Flores: 17th Congressional District of Texas](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/36) 37. [U.S. Rep. Jeff Fortenberry: First Congressional District of Nebraska](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/37) 38. [U.S. Rep. Virginia Foxx: Fifth Congressional District of North Carolina](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/38) 39. [U.S. Rep. Russ Fulcher: First Congressional District of Idaho](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/39) 40. [U.S. Rep. Matt Gaetz: First Congressional District of Florida](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/40) 41. [U.S. Rep. Greg Gianforte: At-Large Congressional District of Montana](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/41) 42. [U.S. Rep. Bob Gibbs: Seventh Congressional District of Ohio](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/42) 43. [U.S. Rep. Louie Gohmert: First Congressional District of Texas](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/43) 44. [U.S. Rep. Lance Gooden: Fifth Congressional District of Texas](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/44) 45. [U.S. Rep. Sam Graves: Sixth Congressional District of Missouri](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/45) 46. [U.S. Representative Mark Green: Seventh Congressional District of Tennessee](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/46) 47. [U.S. Representative Michael Guest: Third Congressional District of Mississippi](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/47) 48. [U.S. Rep. Andy Harris, M.D.: First Congressional District of Maryland](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/48) 49. [U.S. Rep. Vicky Hartzler: Fourth Congressional District of Missouri](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/49) 50. [U.S. Rep. Kevin Hern: First Congressional District of Oklahoma](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/50) 51. [U.S. Rep. Clay Higgins: Third Congressional District of Louisiana](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/51) 52. [U.S. Rep. Trey Hollingsworth: Ninth Congressional District of Indiana](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/52) 53. [U.S. Rep. Richard Hudson: Eighth Congressional District of North Carolina](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/53) 54. [U.S. Rep. Bill Huizenga: Second Congressional District of Michigan](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/54) 55. [U.S. Rep. Bill Johnson: Sixth Congressional District of Ohio](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/55) 56. [U.S. Rep. John Joyce: 13th Congressional District of Pennsylvania](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/56) 57. [U.S. Rep. Fred Keller: 12th Congressional District of Pennsylvania](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/57) 58. [U.S. Rep. Mike Kelly: 16th Congressional District of Pennsylvania](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/58) 59. [U.S. Rep. Trent Kelly: First Congressional District of Mississippi](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/59) 60. [U.S. Rep. Steve King: Fourth Congressional District of Iowa](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/60) 61. [U.S. Rep. David Kustoff: Eighth Congressional District of Tennessee](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/61) 62. [U.S. Rep. Darin LaHood: 18th Congressional District of Illinois](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/62) 63. [U.S. Rep. Doug LaMalfa: First Congressional District of California](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/63) 64. [U.S. Rep. Doug Lamborn: Fifth Congressional District of Colorado](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/64) 65. [U.S. Rep. Robert E. Latta: Fifth Congressional District of Ohio](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/65) 66. [U.S. Rep. Debbie Lesko: Eighth Congressional District of Arizona](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/66) 67. [U.S. Rep. Blaine Leutkemeyer: Third Congressional District of Missouri](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/67) 68. [U.S. Rep. Kenny Marchant: 24th Congressional District of Texas](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/68) 69. [U.S. Rep. Roger Marshall, M.D.: First Congressional District of Kansas](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/69) 70. [U.S. Rep. Tom McClintock: Fourth Congressional District of California](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/70) 71. [U.S. Rep. Cathy McMorris Rogers: Fifth Congressional District of Washington](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/71) 72. [U.S. Rep. Dan Meuser: Ninth Congressional District of Pennsylvania](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/72) 73. [U.S. Rep. Carol D. Miller: Third Congressional District of West Virginia](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/73) 74. [U.S. Rep. John Moolenaar: Fourth Congressional District of Michigan](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/74) 75. [U.S. Rep. Alex X. Mooney: Second Congressional District of West Virginia](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/75) 76. [U.S. Representative Markwayne Mullin: Second Congressional District of Oklahoma](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/76) 77. [U.S. Rep. Gregory Murphy, M.D.: Third Congressional District of North Carolina](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/77) 78. [U.S. Rep. Dan Newhouse: Fourth Congressional District of Washington](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/78) 79. [U.S. Rep. Ralph Norman: Fifth Congressional District of South Carolina](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/79) 80. [U.S. Rep. Scott Perry: 10th Congressional District of Pennsylvania](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/80) 81. [U.S. Rep. Guy Reschenthaler: 14th Congressional District of Pennsylvania](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/81) 82. [U.S. Rep. Tom Rice: Seventh Congressional District of South Carolina](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/82) 83. [U.S. Rep. John Rose: Sixth Congressional District of Tennessee](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/83) 84. [U.S. Rep. David Rouzer: Seventh Congressional District of North Carolina](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/84) 85. [U.S. Rep. John Rutherford: Fourth Congressional District of Florida](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/85) 86. [U.S. Rep. Austin Scott: Eighth Congressional District of Georgia](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/86) 87. [U.S. Rep. Mike Simpson: Second Congressional District of Idaho](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/87) 88. [U.S. Rep. Adrian Smith: Third Congressional District of Nebraska](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/88) 89. [U.S. Rep. Jason Smith: Eighth Congressional District of Missouri](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/89) 90. [U.S. Rep. Ross Spano: 15th Congressional District of Florida](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/90) 91. [U.S. Rep. Elise Stefanik: 21st Congressional District of New York](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/91) 92. [U.S. Rep. Glenn “GT” Thompson: 15th Congressional District of Pennsylvania](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/92) 93. [U.S. Rep. Tom Tiffany: Seventh Congressional District of Wisconsin](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/93) 94. [U.S. Rep. William Timmons: Fourth Congressional District of South Carolina](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/94) 95. [U.S. Rep. Ann Wagner: Second Congressional District of Missouri](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/95) 96. [U.S. Rep. Tim Walberg: Seventh Congressional District of Michigan](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/96) 97. [U.S. Rep. Michael Waltz: Sixth Congressional District of Florida](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/97) 98. [U.S. Rep. Randy Weber: 14th Congressional District of Texas](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/98) 99. [U.S. Rep. Daniel Webster: 11th Congressional District of Florida](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/99) 100. [U.S. Rep. Brad Wenstrup: Second Congressional District of Ohio](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/100) 101. [U.S. Rep. Bruce Westerman: Fourth Congressional District of Arkansas](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/101) 102. [U.S. Rep. Roger Williams: 25th Congressional District of Texas](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/102) 103. [U.S. Rep. Joe Wilson: Second Congressional District of South Carolina](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/103) 104. [U.S. Rep. Rob Wittman: First Congressional District of Virginia](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/104) 105. [U.S. Rep. Ron Wright: Sixth Congressional District of Texas](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/105) 106. [U.S. Rep. Ted S. Yoho: Third Congressional District of Florida](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/106) 107. [U.S. Rep. Lee Zeldin: First Congressional District of New York](https://politics.theonion.com/the-onion-salutes-the-courageous-legislators-determin-1845865496/slides/107) ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2020, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7487 "2020-12-12T03:38:24Z")
Did you go to 107 seperate links and post them? Impressive ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2020, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7488 "2020-12-12T03:51:34Z")
> [@smithsb](#): > > The Onion’ Salutes The Courageous Legislators Determined To Overturn The Will Of Voters - Image at the link for each of the cowards. [![](https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/c_fit,f_auto,g_center,pg_1,q_60,w_965/h5jcdzo2jybpsbvfuz2p.jpg) ](https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/c_fit,f_auto,g_center,pg_1,q_60,w_965/h5jcdzo2jybpsbvfuz2p.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2020, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7489 "2020-12-12T04:21:25Z")
Individual 1 refused to make an appearance at tonight’s White House Christmas party. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2020, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7490 "2020-12-12T04:27:36Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Image at the link for each of the cowards. That poor little guy, what did it do to deserve this? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2020, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7491 "2020-12-12T04:28:47Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > > [@running\_coach](#): > > > > Image at the link for each of the cowards. > > That poor little guy, what did it do to deserve this? - The slime mold outran him. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2020, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7492 "2020-12-12T04:50:59Z")
Vets are not happy with Veterans Affairs Secretary Robert Wilkie: > **[Vets groups demand Wilkie's dismissal after scathing audit](https://apnews.com/article/afghanistan-coronavirus-pandemic-sexual-assault-robert-wilkie-iraq-d20c51ea31bf052c7460ad465ad70a69)** > > WASHINGTON (AP) — Four of the nation's biggest veterans groups on Friday called for the immediate dismissal of Veterans Affairs Secretary Robert Wilkie following a ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2020, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7493 "2020-12-12T05:08:25Z")
Meanwhile, things are totes normal over at Parler tonight: [![Google Photos](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/SiRgqVW_yGIwoojQhLfM82abXf4igils_WirGccsBjJM3NfFsdFXFCl6Vbl33bTmSd_Tj0amH6G7ZVxGgFen9Lyxgi4o5dBaDVUsjkqk7K1yC3tn1TJxvOXsv71_fbkNC6c-hkEo5g=w600-h315-p-k "New item by John Thornton") ](https://photos.app.goo.gl/7JpukTdCb274yi3y9) [![Google Photos](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/fTFa4JjyP99zDHLhMYku65O9zqSihFAh8lhiTuEKm3dD8-trXwD_or_4iuMgKXUwNqUhi3SX0coAz2Nyya-QzKwyAnqp2Y2cBttWUWYHtrJNrmoAvsk7D_xxBHF37k0TolhehaAZlw=w600-h283-p-k "New item by John Thornton") ](https://photos.app.goo.gl/qQqZWGNsWn8aY4XG9) [![Google Photos](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/vPk0Sp-grlr1LN4llhOdhSvOChFqcM-rlsolfLR9lGyZ8VKYA15QgT2omElgd5UqsUZkNnJ-BnWBzVV7RD8BLEIKwwtq_ElOkN_TviZa4FMFggCQKyIqcmAkFXLnFRLaEpP8tJkFAg=w600-h315-p-k "New item by John Thornton") ](https://photos.app.goo.gl/eRj3aGttY5r4Xvbc6) [![Google Photos](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/aPPqpdi9jFIn6Fe_yYnVqYdr6-IyvygvTDkYpNZPfiLIaC3mXlCGRS4I7q_G3tK6fPVRIHkOtRSTtJyeSXPjKSrmMXpcbBd5ypr6ZOHdBytFnIC8IsVANS4vlSP5zLRRXXk8e4ErOA=w600-h315-p-k "New item by John Thornton") ](https://photos.app.goo.gl/MTCGjbZL7vXev2bv8) ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2020, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7494 "2020-12-12T05:14:55Z")
Ain’t no way Trump is gonna watch some namby-pamby play. He’s more of a Russian porno type. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2020, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7495 "2020-12-12T05:52:08Z")
Thought the SFLP (Sore Fucking Loser Party) was a good recent acronym, but I’m liking more now the timbre of the WSWTPNP (What Shit Will They Pull Next? Party) ETA: This Monday (And the 6th and the 20th, for that matter) can’t come soon enough. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2020, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7496 "2020-12-12T05:52:52Z")
Told my daughter that he was probably curled up with his gold binkie. She replied, “and McDonald’s.” ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2020, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7497 "2020-12-12T14:47:52Z")
They’re horrible people for sure, but if I were a judge I might agree with them. I think all they are saying is everyone is entitled to their “day in court”, as it were - and the Supreme Court should not have the discretion to reject a case when the Supreme Court is the only venue for legal recourse. I actually find the fact that they issued a statement to the effect of “You would’ve lost if we had heard the case” significant, and it was a powerful statement. I do wish they’d gone further, and weighed in on every aspect of the argument instead of just rejecting it for standing — they should’ve burnt the roots and salted the earth around it like some of the other judges have done. But I guess they’re scared to poke the bear. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2020, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7498 "2020-12-12T16:17:40Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > the Supreme Court should not have the discretion to reject a case when the Supreme Court is the only venue for legal recourse. Excuse me? There have been 50 cases brought by the Trumpers in the state and federal courts. There are ample other venues for legal recourse. Also, the state v state jurisdiction does not mean that every dispute between the states can be brought as a legal claim. If there is a contract between the states, or a boundary dispute, or disputes about shared resource like water that crosses a state boundary, that will likely trigger the Court’s original jurisdiction. But a purely political dispute, like this? Courts patrol their jurisdiction carefully. Suppose I were to sue the United States in my local Canadian Queen’s Bench, alleging that I’ve been damaged by the political measures taken by the Trump administration. It would be kicked out on jurisdiction immediately, as Canadian courts don’t have jurisdiction over foreign sovereign countries. Similar here: just because some US states don’t like the election laws of other US states doesn’t mean it’s a legally cognizable original jurisdiction claim. Remember, _Marbury v Madison_ held that the original jurisdiction of the Supreme Court is limited and cannot be expanded. Ever since then, they’ve been careful to keep the original jurisdiction limited, and rely on the lower courts to take the first stab at a legal dispute. No guarantee that the decision of the lower court will ever get to the Supreme Court for review. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2020, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7499 "2020-12-12T16:28:06Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > I think all they are saying is everyone is entitled to their “day in court”, as it were In addition to what @Northern_Piper has said, with over 50 lawsuits already heard and rejected on their merits, surely the notion of a _frivolous_ lawsuit should come to mind? This is a huge and more general problem in the overly-litigious U.S., and preposterous cases that don’t stand up to even a moment’s scrutiny should be smacked down aggressively. Both plaintiffs and lawyers who cause unjustifiable anguish and expense for defendants and waste a court’s time should be penalized. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2020, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7500 "2020-12-12T16:32:30Z")
This is why courts in other common law jurisdictions have broad powers to impose court costs on the losing party, especially for frivolous claims. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=373) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=375)