# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 377
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7541 "2020-12-14T02:54:17Z")
What if they’re anti-vaxers? Seems to correlate well with the QAnon crowd. No pardon without a vaccination? This is your ~~year end~~ ass end bonus? Just bend over (like you’ve been doing for up to the last 4 years). “Just drink a little of this Trump-Aid. It’ll make any adverse reaction go away, You won’t feel a thing.” ---
**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7542 "2020-12-14T04:19:58Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Wait, I thought everyone at the WH already had it, so what do they need the shot for? This was the first thought that occurred to me, along with the thought of what, exactly, justifies prioritising white house staff? ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7543 "2020-12-14T04:32:19Z")
> [@smithsb](#): > > What if they’re anti-vaxers? Seems to correlate well with the QAnon crowd. After they’re vaccinated, will the Al-Qanon\* feel betrayal, and begin mass self-throat-slitting? \*orignally meant that as a play on ‘Al-Anon’, but ‘Al Qaeda’ also (almost) works. But how will anti-vaxxers (I’ll wager one or two might be Trumpers) square with D + M getting theirs? ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7544 "2020-12-14T06:41:27Z")
So… about Trump’s ability to protect Americans: > **[US agencies, companies secure networks after huge hack](https://apnews.com/article/malware-coronavirus-pandemic-hacking-europe-russia-328b4936f2535418b27cb90afa858489)** > > WASHINGTON (AP) — U.S. government agencies and private companies rushed Monday to secure their computer networks following the disclosure of a sophisticated and long-running cyber-espionage intrusion suspected of being carried out by Russian... ---
**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 8:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7545 "2020-12-14T08:27:59Z")
I’m not even sure there have been any discussions in general about whether or not people who’ve already been sick should get vaccinated; everything has been so focused on front-line healthcare workers and elderly people in care homes. Of course, plenty of people in those groups have been sick as well. Maybe this is the last gasp of Trump the germaphobe; he’s made it perfectly clear that he doesn’t grasp science. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 9:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7546 "2020-12-14T09:46:51Z")
> [@bengangmo](#): > > This was the first thought that occurred to me, along with the thought of what, exactly, justifies prioritising white house staff? Those who fancy themselves aristocracy will always try to protect themselves ahead of the peasants and serfs. It’s obvious the Trump administration feel they’re above the rest of us, just as they feel they’re above the law. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 10:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7547 "2020-12-14T10:17:09Z")
> [@Skypist](#): > > “A source” says little ol’ Ivvie harbors political ambitions in FL. I’ve heard she’s specifically gunning for Little Marco’s job. No idea if it’s true. > [@Skypist](#): > > He really is determined to kill us all on the way out the door. Which he is literally doing with federal death row inmates. > [@Locrian](#): > > So it looks like there’s a new kinda tea party? The Trumpists? Or the I-dunno-how-guvmint-works-so-I’ll-just-guess party? I wonder if we could convince them to harass Mitch for a while. Tell them that it’s all his fault for not supporting Trump hard enough. That’d be amusing. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7548 "2020-12-14T13:52:22Z")
I wonder if we could just get House democrats to pass a resolution to acknowledge that Donald Trump is the king of the solar system (except for the United States)…maybe that would be ointment for the ego. ---
**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7549 "2020-12-14T15:14:45Z")
Trump says the WH will not get vaccines in the first round: [https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/election-2020-today-electoral-college-votes-vaccine-u-turn/2020/12/14/5a7df09a-3e12-11eb-b58b-1623f6267960\_story.html](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/election-2020-today-electoral-college-votes-vaccine-u-turn/2020/12/14/5a7df09a-3e12-11eb-b58b-1623f6267960_story.html) Most of his favorites already have acquired immunity so … ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7550 "2020-12-14T15:22:52Z")
> [@naita](#): > > Most of his favorites already have acquired immunity so … They must have thought it conferred immunity to prosecution. No wonder they were in a rush to get it. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7551 "2020-12-14T17:00:14Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > I wonder if we could convince them to harass Mitch for a while. Tell them that it’s all his fault for not supporting Trump hard enough. That’d be amusing. [One can hope.](https://www.businessinsider.com/video-trump-supporters-chant-destroy-the-gop-after-georgia-decision-2020-12) ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7552 "2020-12-14T17:11:27Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Tuition at the ritzy private school is $35,150 for grades nine through twelve and **requires personal and business tax returns for enrollment**. Assuming no one is asking for financial aid, what purpose would personal and business tax returns serve? My kids went to private school for two years, no one wanted to see my tax returns. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7553 "2020-12-14T17:43:59Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > My kids went to private school for two years, no one wanted to see my tax returns. Well, obviously that’s not the same caliber of school.Anyone can go there! Without seeing your financial statement, how can they be sure of getting the best students? Of providing the proper environment? A letter of recommendation from Henry Kissinger goes a long way, too. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7554 "2020-12-14T18:01:04Z")
I assume its to make sure that you can actually pay the massive tuition that they require. They probably don’t want students who attend for a few weeks but then have to quit because they can’t pay the bills. ---
**Author:** ![rejemy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/898d66/32.png) [@rejemy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rejemy)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7555 "2020-12-14T18:23:43Z")
After looking at the school’s website, I think the most likely thing is that the original reporting is in error, and that tax records are only required if you are applying for financial aid, which is exactly the same as 99% of private schools in the US. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7556 "2020-12-14T18:25:23Z")
> [@rejemy](#): > > I think the most likely thing is that the original reporting is in error, and that tax records are only required if you are applying for financial aid, which is exactly the same as 99% of private schools in the US. That makes much more sense. Thanks for digging into it. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7557 "2020-12-14T18:53:26Z")
> [@rejemy](#): > > I think the most likely thing is that the original reporting is in error, and that tax records are only required if you are applying for financial aid Although that doesn’t rule out Trump. His tax returns show massive losses, and he’s never shown any inclination to pay for anything himself if he can get somebody else to pay. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7558 "2020-12-14T20:08:43Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > I assume its to make sure that you can actually pay the massive tuition that they require. They probably don’t want students who attend for a few weeks but then have to quit because they can’t pay the bills. > [@rejemy](#): > > After looking at the school’s website, I think the most likely thing is that the original reporting is in error, and that tax records are only required if you are applying for financial aid, which is exactly the same as 99% of private schools in the US. Maybe the general rule is to require financial information if you’re applying for aid, BUT that the school administration has the discretion to ~~ask for~~ demand financial statements where they deem it necessary. Like if the parent is well-known to be a lying, blustering, dishonorable deadbeat. It is a _private_ school and ISTM they can ask for anything they want. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7559 "2020-12-14T20:34:40Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > BUT that the school administration has the discretion to ~~ask for~~ demand financial statements where they deem it necessary. Like if the parent is well-known to be a lying, blustering, dishonorable deadbeat. It is a _private_ school and ISTM they can ask for anything they want. Meh. I’m not for laying the sins of the father at the feet of the son. The adult children have their own sins as part of the family but Barron, until he becomes an adult, should not be exposed to more of that shitshow than is strictly necessary. As long as they pay the full tuition in advance (it is Trump, after all), there’s no reason they should have to jump through extra hoops regarding their finances. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7560 "2020-12-14T22:33:29Z")
It would be hugely amusing if Barron turned out more like Ron Reagan, Jr than Donald Trump, Jr. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=376) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=378)