# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 383
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7661 "2020-12-17T17:01:28Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Up to now it’s usually been handled by involuntary commitment. Like this? [![](https://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/avzqoVn_700b.jpg) ](https://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/avzqoVn_700b.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7662 "2020-12-17T17:02:29Z")
Quote of the thread. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7663 "2020-12-17T17:04:24Z")
Don’t pay any attention to these usurpers. I’m the President!!! ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7664 "2020-12-17T17:04:31Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Trump should go all in and declare himself [Emperor](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emperor_Norton). - King McAfee is much more prestigious. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7665 "2020-12-17T17:04:39Z")
I’m just saying - Charles Stewart was still alive when the Constitution was being written; you’d think the framers would be wary about pretenders. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7666 "2020-12-17T17:05:09Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > “Any attempt to remove the [Individual 1] administration will require force.” I am visualizing the Secret Service agents who’ve had to put up with him thinking, “Your proposal is acceptable”. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7667 "2020-12-17T17:09:35Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Maybe that’s the game going forward: he continues to call himself president and his rabid followers continue to regard him as the _real_ president. And the Oval Office will no longer really matter to the Delusional States of America because it will simply be illegally occupied by a fraudulent president who is being supported by the Deep State. And the first time someone commits a felony following one of his “executive orders,” he could be charged with conspiracy or something, right? (IANAL, obviously.) ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7668 "2020-12-17T17:21:17Z")
> [@smithsb](#): > > I saw absolutely nothing useful from Pence the first four years. Why would DumpsterFire what him around for another four? That’s consistent with my seeing nothing useful from Pence the four years he was governor of Indiana. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7669 "2020-12-17T17:24:22Z")
I’m going to flesh this out a bit later. Feel free to add on or start a new thread - possibly - “Trump, the next generation or until he dies.” I see DumpsterFire using his mob experience to lean on OAN or Newsmax (I think that’s the other echo chamber) and take over one or both. “I’m your content. Play ball or I’ll freeze you out.” The new name will be “Trump News Network” because he likes to see his name and “TNN” is a slap at CNN who/whom? he sees as his chief nemesis (subject to any particular time of day or phase of the moon). I’m seeing a Gold logo because (have you been paying attention?). Same format as Faux, shouting teleprompter readers and blondes. He’ll try to poach the more obsequious contributors as well. Same pressure tactic on Hannity and Carlson to drag them and their mailing lists along. Instead of Fox and Friends, the new show will be “Trump and Friends”. Host will be Ivanka to get her out in the public (mouth-breathers) eye. DumpsterFire will be a frequent guest and call in. I’ve played with the idea of an all female cast but McEnemy and/or Guilfoyle have too much “presence” pushing the Wax Princess back into the couch faster than Spicer into a hedge. Even Huckabee who’s no threat in the fashion or looks department has more gravitas than blonde Barbie (enough name calling? I learned it throughout the last 4 years). The usual gang of sycophants and pardon recipients will be the “experts/shadow cabinet” of his government and appear as experts. Other guest will be all the white wing trolls he’ll try to primary RINOs with for the next House election. He’ll do hit pieces on the weak kneed Republicans who accepted the election results. He won’t need to primary all of them; just enough to “send a message” in mobspeak. I expect heil retain ~~Joseph Goebbels~~ Stephen Miller as Reich Minister of Propaganda ([Reich Ministry of Public Enlightenment and Propaganda - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reich_Ministry_of_Public_Enlightenment_and_Propaganda)). Any additions gratefully accepted. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7670 "2020-12-17T17:37:36Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > …a lengthy stay in a state home for the bewildered… Good description of the last four years in the WH. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7671 "2020-12-17T17:44:32Z")
> [@smithsb](#): > > I saw absolutely nothing useful from Pence the first four years. Why would DumpsterFire what him around for another four? Nobody cleans his ass as well as Pence does. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7672 "2020-12-17T17:46:52Z")
I think that kind of programming will take up less than half the airtime. The rest will be taken up with advertising for Trump flags and Trump shirts and Trump swag, at first. Then, as Trump develops more and more endeavors to fleece his fans, we’ll get long infomercials for the rebooted Trump University. Then there will be really long infomercials for homes in the new Trump branded housing subdivisions - Trump Village!, where a half million dollars will get you a $250,000 home in a neighborhood of like-minded people willing to overpay in order to live among other people that think Trump is still President. I think ultimately the Trump Channel will be 15% political content and 85% marketing for various Trump ventures intended to rip-off his supporters. ---
**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7673 "2020-12-17T17:47:32Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Maybe that’s the game going forward: he continues to call himself president and his rabid followers continue to regard him as the _real_ president. And the Oval Office will no longer really matter to the Delusional States of America because it will simply be illegally occupied by a fraudulent president who is being supported by the Deep State. I mean what would change from his perspective? He’s at Maralago all the time anyway, he continues to receive intelligence briefs that he ignores, he continues to have press conferences, the secret service is still there, he continues to sign executive orders that may or may not come to pass. What exactly is the difference aside from not having access to Air Force 1 anymore? ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7674 "2020-12-17T17:47:54Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > I can’t find the link now, but I’ve read where Trump is considering firing the new Attorney General (already! How many Scaramuccis is that?) if they won’t open an investigation on Hunter Biden. Maybe it’ll be like that scene from [_Baseball Bugs_](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmjaYAF6GJY) – until January 20 anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7675 "2020-12-17T17:55:36Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > He’s 'pposed to move out of the White House, but his neighbors in Florida don’t want him living in Mar-a-Lago. Will he be homeless? Maybe he can move in with Javanka! ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7676 "2020-12-17T18:01:09Z")
> [@smithsb](#): > > I expect heil retain I see what you did there. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7677 "2020-12-17T18:03:07Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > I think that kind of programming will take up less than half the airtime. The rest will be taken up with advertising for Trump flags and Trump shirts and Trump swag, at first. Oh yeah, this will definitely be a moneymaking venture. Otherwise, what’s the point? If Donnie could Get Religion at some point and turn himself into a church/religious organization, he could make out like a friggin’ bandit! And maybe get the IRS off his back, too. Mar-a-Lago could become tax-free. Promise the MAGAts an eternity at his right hand in ~~heaven~~ the next world… dyn-o-mite! Get to work on that, Rudy! Make it so! ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7678 "2020-12-17T18:12:29Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Maybe that’s the game going forward: he continues to call himself president and his rabid followers continue to regard him as the _real_ president. I’ve been saying for weeks he’s gonna fuck off to Florida, claim the mantle of President, and try to maintain a schism. It won’t be a _real_ bid for power, he has never actually liked the job of President and he doesn’t want to keep doing it; he just wants, like, the penumbra. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7679 "2020-12-17T18:18:58Z")
> [@smithsb](#): > > I’m going to flesh this out a bit later. Feel free to add on or start a new thread - possibly - “Trump, the next generation or until he dies.” > > I see DumpsterFire using his mob experience to lean on OAN or Newsmax (I think that’s the other echo chamber) and take over one or both. “I’m your content. Play ball or I’ll freeze you out.” > The new name will be “Trump News Network” because he likes to see his name and “TNN” is a slap at CNN who/whom? he sees as his chief nemesis (subject to any particular time of day or phase of the moon). I’m seeing a Gold logo because (have you been paying attention?). > > Same format as Faux, shouting teleprompter readers and blondes. He’ll try to poach the more obsequious contributors as well. Same pressure tactic on Hannity and Carlson to drag them and their mailing lists along. > > Instead of Fox and Friends, the new show will be “Trump and Friends”. Host will be Ivanka to get her out in the public (mouth-breathers) eye. DumpsterFire will be a frequent guest and call in. I’ve played with the idea of an all female cast but McEnemy and/or Guilfoyle have too much “presence” pushing the Wax Princess back into the couch faster than Spicer into a hedge. Even Huckabee who’s no threat in the fashion or looks department has more gravitas than blonde Barbie (enough name calling? I learned it throughout the last 4 years). > > The usual gang of sycophants and pardon recipients will be the “experts/shadow cabinet” of his government and appear as experts. > > Other guest will be all the white wing trolls he’ll try to primary RINOs with for the next House election. He’ll do hit pieces on the weak kneed Republicans who accepted the election results. He won’t need to primary all of them; just enough to “send a message” in mobspeak. > > I expect heil retain ~~Joseph Goebbels~~ Stephen Miller as Reich Minister of Propaganda ([Reich Ministry of Public Enlightenment and Propaganda - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reich_Ministry_of_Public_Enlightenment_and_Propaganda)). > > Any additions gratefully accepted. One thing Trump is very adverse to is doing actual work. He’ll happily loan them his name for monetary remuneration, but actually planning and doing any kind of work or holding an actual schedule would be too much for the golfing pissbaby. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7680 "2020-12-17T18:24:40Z")
When twitter suspends his account, he will start posting from @WhitestHouse to inform us that he has filled the Ovular office with canisters of corbomite that he will set off, killing us all, if we try to remove him. It will be the ultimate Kobiyashi Mar-a-Lago scenario. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=382) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=384)