# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7681 "2020-12-17T18:35:32Z")

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> [@smithsb](#):
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> I saw absolutely nothing useful from Pence the first four years. Why would DumpsterFire what him around for another four?

Who else will stare at him adoringly while keeping his mouth shut?

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7682 "2020-12-17T18:36:53Z")

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I’m not sure why, but the fact that he’s planning his own inauguration and “continuation of power” is especially horrifying to me.

And he’s done a LOT to horrify over the last 4+ years.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7683 "2020-12-17T18:40:19Z")

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Fortunately, that account will also be terminated promptly.

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**Author:** ![gnarator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gnarator/32/8266_2.png) [@gnarator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnarator)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7684 "2020-12-17T18:49:27Z")

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Pence is this generation’s Nancy Reagan

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
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I’m coming around to the belief that trials need to be held:

[![Google Photos](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/wG1YJ05jngg5c8OQgqDoS3bXk96UWgaAuNQusmh5tvT3hhPT_EQi2WkMm6rTgRElhcvb-FxGfv3IDav0f1AkO9byWrRYqhiQHVXiHJFB4m5ZSPYRXzgdwq2vpTsse3sV_GsZXaOlMQ=w600-h315-p-k "New item by John Thornton") ](https://photos.app.goo.gl/natQDe5g6eXoSjRS7)

Cite - the 12.17.2020 press release found on their page here:

[https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-statement-archive](https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-statement-archive)

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7686 "2020-12-17T19:00:38Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> I notice that Trump has no VP for his second term. Or is Pence and Mother moving to Mar-A-Lago?

I just saw an article saying that Pence will go on an overseas trip as soon as Congress certifies the election.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7687 "2020-12-17T19:06:28Z")

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So Individual 1 signed an agreement with Palm Beach County back in the 90s declaring that Mar a Lago would not be a residence. It’s also on the tax roles as not a residence. So not only will he not be a legal resident when he gets booted out of Washington, but it appears that he voted illegally by using Mar a Lago as his official residence on voter rolls.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7688 "2020-12-17T19:07:15Z")

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Yeah, probably a good time to get far far away…

> **[Pence may leave for overseas trip after certifying vote: report](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/530631-pence-may-leave-for-overseas-trip-after-certifying-vote-report/)**
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> Vice President Pence is reportedly planning to leave for a foreign trip after confirming President-elect Joe Biden’s win on Jan. 6.Three U.S. officials told Politico that Pence is considering a wee…

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7689 "2020-12-17T19:09:36Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> When twitter suspends his account, he will start posting from @WhitestHouse to inform us that he has filled the **Ovular** office with canisters of corbomite that he will set off, killing us all, if we try to remove him. It will be the ultimate **Kobiyashi Mar-a-Lago** scenario.

The latter two are my bold.

You are on a roll! 😂 👍🏽 Good work.

Okay, what about this: Donnie converts one of the rooms at Mar-a-Lago into an exact replica of the Oval Office, so when he broadcasts from there the MAGAts will think he’s still in the WH? Actually, he’ll probably just take the drapes and other fixtures from the real OO with him. Remember how he redecorated when he moved in-- adding all the gold accents? Biden won’t want that tacky crap.

> **[The Oval Office Has Been Completely Redesigned — and It's Very Trump](https://www.housebeautiful.com/design-inspiration/celebrity-homes/news/a8381/donald-trump-oval-office-redesign/)**
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> Obama's taste was modern, but our new President is definitely more traditional.

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**Author:** ![Levolor\_the\_Blind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bc8723/32.png) [@Levolor\_the\_Blind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Levolor_the_Blind)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7690 "2020-12-17T19:19:18Z")

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I am disappointed to learn that seditious conspiracy requires actually planning to use force to overthrow the government and fucking off to Florida to declare yourself president doesn’t rise to level he can be charged.  
[Sedition - FindLaw](https://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-charges/sedition.html#:~:text=The%20federal%20law%20against%20seditious,%C2%A7%202384).

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7691 "2020-12-17T19:24:10Z")

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> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> \*Yes! Yes! (pumps fist) Just double-checked with urban dictionary - no sign of ‘eye-worm’ being used in any context to denote ‘image you’d rather not have in your head’. This means: the tawdry genesis, here, of its new meaning, so that repeated misuse? use of this meaning will soon supercede the normal, original descriptor of ‘actual fucking worm thing in your eye’, and before you know it, ‘eye-worm’ will go right alongside ‘earworm’ in lists, and shit, which I will humbly take 101% credit for. Yes! YES! Whuh-POW!!!

 

Congratulations. Also, “ **supersede**.”

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7692 "2020-12-17T19:29:14Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Bill Stepien put out an official Individual 1 Campaign Team press release saying he will be holding his inauguration at Mar a Lago on January 20.  
> “Any attempt to remove the [Individual 1] administration will require force.”

Can’t imagine it’ll take that much force to remove IT-related credentials (building access codes, computer system logins, and such) and stop cutting paychecks.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7693 "2020-12-17T19:33:10Z")

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Probably the portrait of Andrew Jackson as well.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7694 "2020-12-17T19:39:03Z")

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To go further, according to TPM’s Josh Kovensky, six states have announced they have been told by the CDC that their vaccine shipments are being reduced 30-40% next week, with no reason given: WA, IL, FL, MI, NE, and IA:

> <https://twitter.com/JoshKovensky/status/1339655233941725186?s=19>

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7695 "2020-12-17T19:42:23Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> To go further, according to TPM’s Josh Kovensky, six states have announced they have been told by the CDC that their vaccine shipments are being reduced 30-40% next week, with no reason given: WA, IL, FL, MI, NE, and IA: -

No doubt Trump has found a higher bidder.

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7696 "2020-12-17T19:44:01Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> Probably the portrait of Andrew Jackson as well.

No, he’ll install a portrait of Jefferson Davis.

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7697 "2020-12-17T20:00:26Z")

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# [Dominion threatens defamation lawsuit for Sidney Powell’s election conspiracy theories:](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/dominion-threatens-defamation-lawsuit-for-sidney-powells-election-conspiracy-theories-you-are-not-entitled-to-your-own-facts/ar-BB1c0RLl?li=BBnbfcL)

Threaten??? They should should sue her till wants to die.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7699 "2020-12-17T20:08:19Z")

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> [@Folly](#):
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> he continues to receive intelligence briefs that he ignores, he continues to have **press conferences** , the secret service is still there, he continues to sign executive orders that may or may not come to pass

Is it a press conference if the press doesn’t show up? If only OAN shows up, does that count?

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7700 "2020-12-17T20:34:23Z")

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[quote=“Cervaise, post:7678, topic:911083”]  
I’ve been saying for weeks he’s gonna fuck off to Florida, claim the mantle of President, and try to **maintain a schism.** [/quote]

Yes, and contemplate what happens if US Marshals show up at his resort wanting to give him an escort to New York.

Again, it sounds farcical, almost comical, but Trump’s perpetually claiming to be the real leader could be a real problem for the Biden administration, particularly if the Republican senate can essentially block fiscal stimulus and ensure that Biden fails at everything he tries to achieve.

If Democrats can win the Senate, I hope Biden seriously considers tossing the filibuster aside. This is no time for bipartisanship; it’s time for results that people can see for themselves and nothing less than that.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7701 "2020-12-17T20:38:12Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> If only OAN shows up, does that count?

Trust me, [they wouldn’t be the only one.](https://americasvoice.news/)

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