# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7742 "2020-12-18T03:01:19Z")

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The thing is … and this is deep inside the CNN article, he’s not going to be able to get away with just leaving for a few days at the end of each month. The rules set by Palm Beach say that no one can stay there more than 21 days per _ **YEAR** _, and no more than seven consecutive days. So maybe he’ll be evicted twice this year. ( There was some reporting yesterday that he has said he’d refuse to leave the White House on Jan 20th, which would be be delightful- but I couldn’t find it picked up by a major news source ).

I do agree with you about how fast his power will slip. Especially among the evangelicals because they are, what’s that word Republicans have for amoral unadulterated self-interest… oh, _transactional_

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> … if the agents can stay at Motel 6 in Palm Beach (not that there IS a Motel 6 in Palm Beach–anyplace they’d stay likely would be fairly expensive …

Technically, it looks like there is one place to stay in Palm Beach, and it runs well over $500 a night. However, Palm Beach is on the barrier island: there is quite a bit more to choose from in West Palm Beach, down as far as the Red Roof Inn type sub-hundred-dollar range, well within a couple miles of MaL. Though, if it is the SS organization, they will be able to work some sort of group rate at a decent lodging.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7744 "2020-12-18T03:54:45Z")

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In another No-Surprise-But-It’s-Still-Shocking-To-Get-Confirmation bit of news:  
[https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-homeland-whistleblower-idUSKBN28R33L](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-homeland-whistleblower-idUSKBN28R33L)

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> In testimony before the U.S. House of Representatives Intelligence Committee, former intelligence chief Brian Murphy accused department leadership of urging him to “blame Far Left groups in an exaggerated fashion” for violence during summer protests in Portland, Oregon, according to lawyer Mark Zaid.

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> In a Sept. 8 whistleblower complaint, Murphy accused President Donald Trump’s acting DHS chief, Chad Wolf, of having told him to hold back on circulating assessments of the threat of Russian interference in the approaching Nov. 3 election in part because it “made the President look bad.” Wolf also asked Murphy to play down U.S. white supremacist activity, the complaint said.
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> Zaid said the committee questioned Murphy about allegations in his complaint that DHS officials pressured him to support greatly exaggerated claims about the number of people entering from Mexico suspected of plotting attacks on the United States.
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> Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen delivered congressional testimony which amounted to a “deliberate submission of false material information,” according to an initially anonymous whistleblower complaint Murphy submitted to DHS’ inspector general.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
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[Bob 1 from _Office Space_]  
“We fixed the glitch.”  
[/Bob 1 from _Office Space_]

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> It would certainly be a blow to Trump if the agents can stay at Motel 6 in Palm Beach (not that there IS a Motel 6 in Palm Beach–anyplace they’d stay likely would be fairly expensive, but not as expensive as what Trump would charge them).

Perhaps Hunter can look into opening a chain of hotels in the area…with big signs “Biden’s Place” and advertise on all the roads to and fro the places Trump enjoys the most.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
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> [@simster](#):
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> > [@Sherrerd](#):
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> > It would certainly be a blow to Trump if the agents can stay at Motel 6 in Palm Beach (not that there IS a Motel 6 in Palm Beach–anyplace they’d stay likely would be fairly expensive, but not as expensive as what Trump would charge them).
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> Perhaps Hunter can look into opening a chain of hotels in the area…with

…his new live-in girlfriend, Kimberly Guilfoyle 😁.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
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> [@simster](#):
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> with big signs “Biden’s Place” and advertise on all the roads to and fro the places Trump enjoys the most.

Or just signs on the road to Trump’s club advertising “Future Home of Obam-a-Lago”…

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
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> [@JohnT](#):
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> To go further, according to TPM’s Josh Kovensky, six states have announced they have been told by the CDC that their vaccine shipments are being reduced 30-40% next week, with no reason given: WA, IL, FL, MI, NE, and IA

Trump put Louis DeJoy in charge of vaccine deployment?

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
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> [@eschereal](#):
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> What would happen if the US subsidiary of DeutscheBank were to move to foreclose on some of his properties, including the one in Palm Beach?

What Trump properties in the United States (or anywhere) does DeutscheBank have a lien on? Does anyone know?

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
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Ah, that explains something I overheard. As some of you know, my father’s a banker in Berlin, and he was on a big zoom meeting where his Überboss said something, and all the bank officers replied in song:

“Herr Trump just might have a problem that we understand…”

_“We all need somebody to lien on!”_

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
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\< gives **digs** a Withersing look \>

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Was it Dorothy Parker who named her parakeet Onan, because he cast his seed upon the ground?

I think @Paul_was_in_Saudi had an African Grey named that for the same reason.

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**Author:** ![Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b77776/32.png) [@Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_was_in_Saudi)\
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Yes, yes I did.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
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protect the entry to Maralago with an ObamaGate.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7756 "2020-12-18T13:34:07Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> So, let the horror go. For the next 34 days, the horror is appropriate and reasonable—but after that, let it go. Keep it in reserve for the next would-be dictator, who has learned dark lessons during the past four years–and who is _very_ likely to be smarter than Donald J. Trump.

Donald Trump is the next would be dictator. He’ll continue to fleece his idotic base for campaign contributions for his 2024 presidential run (making sure to milk it for as much personal gain ss he can). And they’ll keep contributing. All he has to do is continue portraying his base as victims and making them feel important. His appeal isn’t about power, it’s about hate, greed, and sticking it to the libs. And that stuff will continue.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
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I’m betting they’re gonna lose:

> **[Some people lost more than $100,000 betting that Trump would win and are...](https://www.yahoo.com/now/people-lost-more-100-000-032351834.html)**
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> The Daily Beast reports that some bettors are planning to pursue legal action against gambling sites for paying out to those who bet on Joe Biden.

> Bettors who wagered thousands of dollars that President Donald Trump would win the 2020 presidential election are now planning legal action against at least one online gambling site for their return, according to a report published by [The Daily Beast](https://www.thedailybeast.com/gamblers-bet-big-on-trump-and-now-they-now-claim-fraud?ref=home).
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> European bettors told the publication they bet money on a major online gambling service called Betfair in favor of Trump winning reelection. Now they’re calling out the company or planning suits because they still believe that Trump could be victorious, according to The Daily Beast.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
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Let’s face it… the Clusterfuck will never really be over… it’s the fuck that keeps on fucking…

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**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7759 "2020-12-18T15:53:36Z")

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The wings are off the plane, but hey, they may still land safely.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> \< gives **digs** a Withersing look \>

Go to your room.

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Atlantic City is auctioning off the right to push the button to blow up the Trump Casino.

(After looking at the video of bits of the facade blowing off in a nor’easter) Is that a hotel or a grain silo?

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