# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\
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**Post date:** [December 20, 2020, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7802 "2020-12-20T03:14:47Z")

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For me: Casey Stengel and the Magic Baseball.

[![](https://media.wnyc.org/i/800/0/l/85/1/AP_490217020.jpg) ](https://media.wnyc.org/i/800/0/l/85/1/AP_490217020.jpg)

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**Post date:** [December 20, 2020, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7803 "2020-12-20T03:38:15Z")

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Sorry not to summarize–this URL isn’t providing a preview.

PHOENIX — Two former presidents of the Arizona State Bar and five other attorneys have jointly filed an ethics complaint against 21 attorneys who went to court on behalf of President Donald Trump and the Arizona Republican Party after the 2020 election.

The 8-page letter to the Lawyer Regulation Division of the State Bar of Arizona alleges the attorneys knowingly brought 10 “utterly meritless cases” against elections officials.

“Confidence in the legal system is seriously eroded when attorneys treat lawsuits as a platform for broadcasting gossip and innuendo utterly devoid of factual proof, as a political stunt,” the letter states.

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**Post date:** [December 20, 2020, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7804 "2020-12-20T04:09:53Z")

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> [@susan](#):
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> PHOENIX — Two former presidents of the Arizona State Bar and five other attorneys have jointly filed an ethics complaint against 21 attorneys who went to court on behalf of President Donald Trump and the Arizona Republican Party after the 2020 election.

Good, good, good for them. I hope all other states that were made to suffer this crap follow, uhh, suit. Long past due.

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> **[Heated Oval Office meeting included talk of special counsel, martial law as...](https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/19/politics/trump-oval-office-meeting-special-counsel-martial-law/index.html)**
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> President Donald Trump convened a heated meeting in the Oval Office on Friday, including lawyer Sidney Powell and her client, former national security adviser Michael Flynn, two people familiar with the matter said, describing a session that began as...

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2020, 8:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7806 "2020-12-20T08:52:13Z")

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Didn’t we expect him to flail and thrash harder as time went by and he couldn’t overturn the election?

At least not everyone immediately said “yes” to him - maybe some of those around him are starting to realize that he won’t be President after January 20 and that his ship is sinking.

Run, rats, run!

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**Author:** ![MikeF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MikeF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeF)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2020, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7807 "2020-12-20T15:56:22Z")

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During a CNN interview Bolton said that, if you think Trump has increased his level of lunacy since he lost the election, you are mistaken. All this is just another day in the Trump White House.

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**Post date:** [December 20, 2020, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7808 "2020-12-20T17:05:13Z")

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> [@Broomstick](#):
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> Didn’t we expect him to flail and thrash harder as time went by and he couldn’t overturn the election?

Seeing the prison gates getting closer and closer and closer does have that effect…

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2020, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7809 "2020-12-20T18:00:18Z")

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> [@Broomstick](#):
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> …maybe some of those around him are starting to realize that he won’t be President after January 20 and that his ship is sinking.

One month to go…

Let’s hope his worst thrashings in the next 31 days are harmless or reversible…

_(“Dear Koreas, most of the Middle East and ‘Jina’, the USA would like to call ‘BACKSIES!’ on declaring war. Look, can we just pretend the last four years never happened and go back to being pals?”)_

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**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2020, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7810 "2020-12-20T18:46:14Z")

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Saw this in another thread:

> <https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1340362336390004737>

Remind me, what’s the definition of sedition?

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**Post date:** [December 20, 2020, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7811 "2020-12-20T18:49:43Z")

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> [@Mr.Greenjeans](#):
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> Saw this in another thread:
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> [https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1340362336390004737](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1340362336390004737)
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> Remind me, what’s the definition of sedition?-

A granular substance that settles out on the bottom?  
:flees:

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
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What precipitated that?

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**Post date:** [December 20, 2020, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7813 "2020-12-20T18:53:28Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> What precipitated that? -

I was on a sedimental journey.

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**Post date:** [December 20, 2020, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7814 "2020-12-20T19:32:43Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> A granular substance that settles out on the bottom?

If you are not part of the solution …

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**Post date:** [December 20, 2020, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7815 "2020-12-20T20:51:19Z")

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> [@Mr.Greenjeans](#):
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> Saw this in another thread:

“Save the Cheerleader. Save the World.”

Trump is his own best cheerleader

> **[Save the cheerleader, save the world](https://heroes.fandom.com/wiki/Save_the_cheerleader,_save_the_world)**
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> This common phrase is constantly mentioned througout Heroes, it was originally spoken by Hiro who came from the future to warn Peter that he must save Claire ("The Cheerleader") so that she can shoot Sylar as he is about to explode. Originally, Peter...

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If at first you don’t succeed…

> **[Trump Campaign Files First Petition with SCOTUS Over the Election](https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbaumann/2020/12/20/trump-campaign-petitions-the-supreme-court-to-take-up-an-election-case-n2581871)**

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**Post date:** [December 20, 2020, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7817 "2020-12-20T23:51:43Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> If at first you don’t succeed… .  
> [https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbaumann/2020/12/20/trump-campaign-petitions-the-supreme-court-to-take-up-an-election-case-n2581871](https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbaumann/2020/12/20/trump-campaign-petitions-the-supreme-court-to-take-up-an-election-case-n2581871)

Law prof Rick Hasen says:

> <https://twitter.com/rickhasen/status/1340776372294205440>

Sounds pretty plausible to me.

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**Post date:** [December 21, 2020, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7818 "2020-12-21T02:40:50Z")

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Are we going to have the, “usual suspects” pile on with supporting claptrap? The House Repulsicans don’t want to be primaried by a sycophant DumpsterFire supporter so they need to show their bonafides.

If the court doesn’t throw it out directly (my guess); perhaps they could put it on the docket for sometime in January … 2029.

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**Post date:** [December 21, 2020, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7819 "2020-12-21T02:47:45Z")

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Yes and that Trump has no idea about this. Even Rudy was arguing against martial law in that meeting, I think even he knows it is over. Or maybe he just fucked up and forgot to file as an emergency, but I don’t think so, he has not completely lost his mind, he knows how to get on a gravy train.

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**Post date:** [December 21, 2020, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7820 "2020-12-21T03:17:53Z")

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Maggie Halberstam is reporting that Sidney Powell was spotted at the White House again this evening.

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It’s not Rudy filing this motion with the Supreme Court this time. It’s John Eastman, the same guy who argued that Kamala Harris isn’t eligible to be VP because her parents weren’t born in the United States. See my post in the Election ~~Day~~  ~~Week~~ Month thread:

> [@Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/8079):
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> It’s not Rudy doing it this time.

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