# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 392
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2020, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7842 "2020-12-21T16:43:10Z")
Donald J Trump National COVID cemetery. (Lakehurst field is best though) ---
**Author:** ![Frazzled](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frazzled/32/3368_2.png) [@Frazzled](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frazzled)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2020, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7843 "2020-12-21T17:46:02Z")
I was wondering this very thing and was thinking about starting a thread on this subject. Most modern Presidents will get something named in their honor, be it a library, government building, highway, airport, military vessel, etc… I know Trump names plenty of things for himself, and Israel seems to love him (thanks to moving our embassy to Jerusalem) and has named a few things for him, but will he have have his name attached to anything in the US? Normally the naming comes because a politician has been in office long enough to benefit their home state with funding for various projects. In Trump’s case New York hates him so there’s a 0% chance of anything being named for him there. Florida doesn’t seem too fond of him either. He’s never stepped foot in a library so take that off the table. Most Generals resent the idea that Trump “knows more than any of them” despite never serving in the military so I’d say most military bases are off the table. I’d be shocked if any vessels were named for him with the possible exception of a laundry ship. I know I’m biased, but I truly think once Trump is out of office and no longer has the clout to freely trump himself up in the news that the rest of the country will want to put him behind us for good. I’d be ok with naming a good dumpster fire after him though, he deserves that honor. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2020, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7844 "2020-12-21T17:51:10Z")
> [@Frazzled](#): > > I know Trump names plenty of things for himself, and Israel seems to love him (thanks to moving our embassy to Jerusalem) and has named a few things for him, but will he have have his name attached to anything in the US? > > Here’s a list I found on Wikipedia > - [Donald J. Trump State Park](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_J._Trump_State_Park), in New York state, located on land donated by Trump in 2006. > - Trump Drive – [Kalispell, Montana](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalispell,_Montana)[[22]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_things_named_after_Donald_Trump#cite_note-22) > - Donald J Trump Boulevard – [Kamëz](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kam%C3%ABz), [Albania](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albania)[[23]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_things_named_after_Donald_Trump#cite_note-23) > - United States Square in honor of President Donald Trump (a.k.a. Donald Trump Square) – [Jerusalem](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerusalem), [Israel](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel). A town square in the city surrounding the new U.S. embassy. Named in honor of Trump for [his administration’s recognizing of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_recognition_of_Jerusalem_as_capital_of_Israel).[[24]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_things_named_after_Donald_Trump#cite_note-24) > - Donald Trump Square – [Petah Tikva](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petah_Tikva), Israel[[25]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_things_named_after_Donald_Trump#cite_note-25) > - [Trump Heights](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Heights) – [Golan Heights](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golan_Heights), a planned [Israeli settlement](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_settlement) in the [Israeli-occupied territories](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli-occupied_territories), named in honor of Trump’s [recognition of the territory disputed with Syria as part of Israel](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_recognition_of_the_Golan_Heights_as_part_of_Israel). ---
**Author:** ![Frazzled](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frazzled/32/3368_2.png) [@Frazzled](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frazzled)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2020, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7845 "2020-12-21T17:55:11Z")
Yeah, most of those are Israel. Donald Trump State Park makes sense since he donated the land. Time will tell, but thanks for making me aware of the wiki page. It will be interesting to see what happens. One thing is for certain, as much as I hate and loath him, there are plenty of others who adore him and will try to shower him with accolades. The question is, how long can that adoration really last? ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2020, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7846 "2020-12-21T17:59:33Z")
> [@Frazzled](#): > > The question is, how long can that adoration really last? Or how long before he’s caught on a hot mic whinging about how all these places named for him are in shithole small towns in flyover country and not in Manhattan. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2020, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7847 "2020-12-21T18:21:06Z")
_ **Donated** _ the land.🤣🤣🤣🤣 He purchased the land for 2 million and when he was unable to get permission to develop it, he donated it, claimed it was worth 100 million and took a tax write-off for that amount. It apparently hasn’t been maintained in 10 years or so and has pretty much fallen into disrepair. ---
**Author:** ![MikeF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MikeF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeF)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2020, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7848 "2020-12-21T19:21:48Z")
If those numbers are true, how did it it get by the IRS? I’d think that when someone claims a $100 million deduction, someone would look into it. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2020, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7849 "2020-12-21T19:32:46Z")
The audit will be done in two weeks. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2020, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7850 "2020-12-21T19:36:28Z")
> [@MikeF](#): > > someone would look into it. “I can’t release any information while it is under audit” Rinse and repeat for a decade. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2020, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7851 "2020-12-21T20:30:48Z")
He bought at $2.75M, the county appraised it at $5.5M, and he apparently took a deduction of $26.1M for it ([link to Time article](https://time.com/5607302/donald-trump-state-park/)) ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2020, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7852 "2020-12-21T20:38:05Z")
With any luck all this sort of crap will eventually catch up to him. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2020, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7853 "2020-12-21T20:54:46Z")
I took the numbers I used, included the 100 mil, from the Wikipedia article linked to upthread and didn’t check them beyond that. My bad. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2020, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7854 "2020-12-21T21:08:39Z")
If I donated something appraised at $550, and then took a deduction of $2,610 for it on my taxes, I would be fined and also paying this back by the following tax year. If I’m lucky, I would not have criminal charges filed. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2020, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7855 "2020-12-21T22:16:17Z")
These sorts of shenanigans are exactly why New York prosecutors will be knocking on his door the last week of January. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2020, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7856 "2020-12-21T22:34:02Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > If I donated something appraised at $550, and then took a deduction of $2,610 for it on my taxes, I would be fined and also paying this back by the following tax year. If I’m lucky, I would not have criminal charges filed. It’s 'cause your not speshul. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2020, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7857 "2020-12-21T23:39:26Z")
“Let me tell you about the very rich. They are different from you and me. They possess and enjoy early, and it does something to them, makes them soft where we are hard, and cynical where we are trustful, in a way that, unless you were born rich, it is very difficult to understand. They think, deep in their hearts, that they are better than we are because we had to discover the compensations and refuges of life for ourselves. Even when they enter deep into our world or sink below us, they still think that they are better than we are. They are different.” ― F. Scott Fitzgerald ---
**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2020, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7858 "2020-12-21T23:41:01Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > These sorts of shenanigans are exactly why New York prosecutors will be knocking on his door the last week of January. Would the state of Florida hold and deliver Trump to the NY authorities? [I asked about this last year in GQ](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inter-state-extradition-in-the-us/835127/17) and not sure any of the answers provided would be relevant given the insanity of the times. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7859 "2020-12-22T00:28:44Z")
> [@KarlGauss](#): > > Would the state of Florida hold and deliver Trump to the NY authorities? [I asked about this last year in GQ](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inter-state-extradition-in-the-us/835127/17) and not sure any of the answers provided would be relevant given the insanity of the times.  The question was also discussed much more recently (like, last week) [with respect to Trump specifically, in another thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-what-if-regarding-state-prosecution-of-trump/927955/1), and in some posts in other Trumpish threads too. I just searched for the words “Florida extradite Trump New York” to find some of them. ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7860 "2020-12-22T00:31:56Z")
Maybe not, but New Jersey damn sure would, so next time he goes to Bedminster…Virginia might too. He’s gonna be real limited in his golf game if they do. ---
**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7861 "2020-12-22T00:57:58Z")
Thanks. I think I need to go to IMHO more often. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=391) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=393)