# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1)

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**Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\
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**Post date:** [December 23, 2020, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7902 "2020-12-23T02:14:44Z")

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When someone will look at the definition of a _ **Stink** _ Tank, this one will be the one that will appear on top.

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> Senior Trump Aides to Launch Think Tank

I think perhaps more a Con Cauldron, a Grift Group, a Fraud Foundation, a Racket Roundtable. At best maybe a Whim Workshop.

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Seditious Symposium

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Trump threatens to veto the budget deal unless the $600 is raised to $2,000.

I guess he thinks that if he gets Congress to do this, everyone who voted against him will rise up and demand he be given another 4 years for being so awesome. The Supreme Court would have to listen then!

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Plan B is to threaten to bounce the checks _unless_ the people rise up in adulation.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Trump threatens to veto the budget deal unless the $600 is raised to $2,000.

> [@aurora\_maire](#):
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> I guess he thinks that if he gets Congress to do this, everyone who voted against him will rise up and demand he be given another 4 years for being so awesome. The Supreme Court would have to listen then!

I think you are 100% correct. And the Democrats are backing him! 🤣

The best thing about this is that it puts Mitch between a rock and a hard place. After sticking up for Donnie no matter what. Boo-hoo-hoo, that bites. The only thing that would make it sweeter is if both the rock and the hard place were covered with poison-tipped spikes. He’s your Frankenstein, Mitch. Bet you’d like to get out the pitchforks and buckets of tar, eh? _But you can’t, 'cause you still need the deplorables to vote in Georgia!_ Bwahhahahahaha, you scheming bastard!

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**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2020, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/7908 "2020-12-23T16:31:07Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> The best thing about this is that it puts Mitch between a rock and a hard place.

This article makes the same point. Key quote:

> “Republicans repeatedly refused to say what amount the President wanted for direct checks,” Pelosi tweeted Tuesday night. “At last, the President has agreed to $2,000 — Democrats are ready to bring this to the Floor this week by unanimous consent. Let’s do it!”
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> This will almost certainly be blocked – it only takes one member to block a unanimous consent request and there are plenty of Republicans opposed to the direct payments at that size. But it will present an immediate split between Republicans and Trump at a time the party is in the midst of simmering war and just days before the [crucial Georgia Senate runoff races](https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/22/politics/georgia-early-voting-numbers/index.html).

5th dimensional chess player my ass. More like tic-tac-toe where no matter how many times he tries to play, trump keeps getting caught in the 3-corner trap.

[https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/23/politics/donald-trump-covid-relief-capitol-hill/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/23/politics/donald-trump-covid-relief-capitol-hill/index.html)

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> [@solost](#):
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> …there are plenty of Republicans opposed to the direct payments at that size…

Ya gotta ask yourself: WHY??? Or WHY THE FUCK??? How do they rationalize this to themselves?

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Because they’d rather die than see all those free-loadin’ bums squandering 2 grand that they probably don’t need. /s

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> How do they rationalize this to themselves?

If they give this money to the underserving poors, then there might not be enough left over for the tax breaks for yachts.

[https://www.gmyachts.com/2019/07/31/tax-incentives-for-yacht-purchases-until-2022/](https://www.gmyachts.com/2019/07/31/tax-incentives-for-yacht-purchases-until-2022/)

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> > [@solost](#):
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> > …there are plenty of Republicans opposed to the direct payments at that size…
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> Ya gotta ask yourself: WHY??? Or WHY THE FUCK??? How do they rationalize this to themselves?

Well, to be fair – and I’m not even being facetious when I say that – they just spent some not-inconsiderable effort hammering out a compromised, agreed-upon amount. You and I might agree or disagree that it’s the right amount, but that’s where they landed. And then this fuckwit comes along after all the work has been done and wants that amount more than tripled.

I’d be opposed, too, just on general principal.

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> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> Because they’d rather die than see all those free-loadin’ bums squandering 2 grand that they probably don’t need. /s

I think this is the one.

They’re just going to buy cigarettes and beer with it.

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> I think this is the one.
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> They’re just going to buy cigarettes and beer with it.

Hold on, plenty of ~~right~~ white folks own sin franchises. It’s economic stimulus all the way down. Won’t someone think of the poor cigarette and booze companies.

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No, they have no problem giving it to people who don’t need it.

It’s giving it to people who do that makes them balk.

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> No, they have no problem giving it to people who don’t need it.

Ah yes of course - the 2017 Tax Cut. (forehead bonk)

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But they might buy their beer and cigarettes from the wrong sort of (Democrat-supporting) businesses.

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> > [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> > Because they’d rather die than see all those free-loadin’ bums squandering 2 grand that they probably don’t need. /s
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> I think this is the one.
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> They’re just going to buy cigarettes and beer with it.

And weed. Don’t forget, weed is legal in a lot of places now. Cigarettes, beer, and weed.

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Back to the Clusterfuck. Trump vetoed the Defense Authorization Bill. A lot of Republicans in Congress are now in a tough spot.

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Did he have a reason for that, beyond a scorched earth policy prior to leaving the White House?

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They did not respect his _Authoritah!_

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