# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8003 "2020-12-24T19:09:15Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> > [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> > Why are you doubling down on pounding me into the pavement?
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> Why are you being such a snowflake? You said something silly in the Pit, and got called on it. You’re not being “pounded in to the pavement,” you’re being mildly ribbed. And you should know that your own doubling down on something stupid and being a crybaby about being called on it is just going to up the ante.

Just like a prominent real estate developer who lives in the White House that I won’t name.

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**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8004 "2020-12-24T19:11:27Z")

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Fuck Christmas!  
—Melania

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8005 "2020-12-24T19:14:00Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> I’d say the odds of Biden becoming the 47th President are improving daily.

The 46th _and_ the 47th? Neat trick if he could pull it off.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8006 "2020-12-24T19:15:40Z")

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Implication being Trump resigns after negotiating a pardon from Pence.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8007 "2020-12-24T19:16:17Z")

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I see.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8008 "2020-12-24T19:18:00Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> The name that kicked off that thread was, obviously,

Here’s the original thread from Sept 2012. It went to 110 posts.

> [@The best name ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-name-ever/635171):
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> NPR correspondent, [Ofeibea Quist-Arcton](http://www.npr.org/people/4513318/ofeibea-quist-arcton), has THE best name ever. And possibly the best voice, too. When she signs off, the way she says her name and her city, Dakar, is heavenly You can hear her [here](http://www.npr.org/2012/09/10/160864049/for-many-s-africans-strikes-recall-apartheid-era). That is all.

In Oct 2012, this came up:

> [@The best name ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-name-ever/635171/99):
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> [In \*The Atlantic \*online: “Why Do NPR Reporters Have Such Great Names?”](http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/05/why-do-npr-reporters-have-such-great-names/275493/) Do you suppose they got the idea from us? (I think there was another SDMB thread on NPR names, but I didn’t search for it.)
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> ETA. They DID get the idea from here. The article links to this thread. Cool.

From the Atlantic article:

> Others just like that cozy round way she pronounces her name. “I whisper it along with her when I am in the car—Sil-vyah Poh-zjoly, Rome,” a commentator wrote on a “[Best Name Ever](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/archive/index.php/t-665984.html)” thread.

Okay, I’ve consulted the vet, and this horse is dead.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8009 "2020-12-24T19:19:53Z")

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> [@Locrian](#):
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> So… is Cheeto giving a merry shitmas message?
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> (I invented merry shitmas)

He already did, by rejecting the stimulus package, vetoing appropriations to the military, and pardoning Stone, Manafort, and Jared’s Pa, all tied up with a neat “fuck you”.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8010 "2020-12-24T19:22:40Z")

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Joe Biden’s beaten Trump like a drum so many times now he should be inaugurated as the 97th President.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8011 "2020-12-24T19:27:07Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> > [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> > Go ahead. I’ll let you have the last word.
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> And our last word is… we love ya, Thelma!
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> Seriously, when people started ribbing you here, I thought “Man, this is just like my friends at the bar, giving each other crap… I love this place!”
> 
> So yeah, we’re your drunk friends… sorry.

Seconding the love for @ThelmaLou. Sometimes “gentle ribbing” on a message board can come across as rather unnecessarily over the top.

But we can rest assured that **ThelmaLou** is fully capable of looking after herself. I know this because Thelma once misinterpreted something I was saying in a negative way, and the resultant sarcastic calumny was palpable. But we know she is a very nice lady not only because of her posts, but because a fine dog is part of her household. Rumour has it that she also maintains two felines, but there is no need to speak of that now.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8012 "2020-12-24T19:55:42Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Implication being Trump resigns after negotiating a pardon from Pence.

Given the track record of CFSG “loyalists” after exiting his (visualize the Peanuts character Pig Pen) inner circle and the CFSG’s [calculated trajectory](https://youtu.be/0IyhELeYixU), it is entirely possible that, upon CFSG’s resignation, followed hard upon by a sharkfest of litigation, President Q-Tip might “become distracted” and “forget” to issue the pardon, given that CFSG will have nothing to offer him but grief.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8013 "2020-12-24T21:27:39Z")

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DumpsterFire’s mafia past will rule. He’ll have the pardon paperwork completed and signed by his remora lackey before he does the resignation letter. Probably have a plane ticket in hand as well.

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**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8014 "2020-12-24T21:28:09Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> God fucks everyone!

Hail Mary!

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8015 "2020-12-24T22:17:43Z")

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Hey **ThelmaLou** , let Miller (not to be confused with our own **Miller** ) explain:

> [@](#):
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> [Miller](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0910145/?ref_=tt_trv_qu): A lot o’ people don’t realize what’s really going on. They view life as a bunch o’ unconnected incidents ‘n things. They don’t realize that there’s this, like, lattice o’ coincidence that lays on top o’ everything. Give you an example; show you what I mean: suppose you’re thinkin’ about a plate o’ shrimp. Suddenly someone’ll say, like, plate, or shrimp, or plate o’ shrimp out of the blue, no explanation. No point in lookin’ for one, either. It’s all part of a cosmic unconsciousness.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/vRJ5cCP0ZPE/maxresdefault.jpg "Repo Man (6/10) Movie CLIP - Flying Saucers & Time Machines (1984) HD") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRJ5cCP0ZPE)

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8016 "2020-12-24T22:21:02Z")

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Yes, I see. 🤷🏽‍♀️

I could eat a plate o’ shrimp right now. And some onion rings. 🍤 🍤

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8017 "2020-12-24T22:23:14Z")

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Yes but perfected it by putting the pieces of bread together so that peanut butter and jelly on the inside rather than the outside.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8018 "2020-12-24T22:33:13Z")

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Dioretix: the Science of Matter over Mind by X-Rum-Bubba

that is classic

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8019 "2020-12-24T23:03:54Z")

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Hah! This was done by the Earl of Princeton, Bristol, and Jaywick while in a London coffee shop in 1739, his famous creation shortened to the PB&J by 1781. It’s in all the history books.

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**Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8020 "2020-12-24T23:34:08Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> 🍤 🍤

wicked, thanks - that’s how I’ll do quotes now.

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**Author:** ![Boycott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boycott/32/6741_2.png) [@Boycott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boycott)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8021 "2020-12-24T23:51:01Z")

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I can’t believe the extent of the meltdown and hero-worshipping of Trump by his supporters as if he is like Jesus on the cross.

My god, the dude was in the public eye for 30 years before deciding to jump into politics and the very people who love him to death now probably rolled eyes for the majority of that time. I bet when George W. Bush was POTUS preaching “compassionate conservatism” through family values and faith-based policies that the antithesis of that vision was the sleaze ball attention seeking New York billionaire and reality tv host.

I don’t know what happens to these folks after January 20th when the reality hits. The MAGA cult is unlike anything I’ve ever seen.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2020, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8022 "2020-12-25T00:07:12Z")

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Come on, people, only 1989 posts to go. We are only getting around fifty a day, with 27 days to go. Push it a little higher. We have to get to auto-lock by at least the end of January (there should be a bit of leftover clusterfuckery after the 20th).

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