# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 413
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2021, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8265 "2021-01-03T19:34:08Z")
Trump advisor Peter Navarro claims that Pence has the power to extend the date of the Inauguration, even though the date is explicitly embedded in the Constitution. > **[Trump Adviser Peter Navarro Lies That Biden’s Inauguration Can Be Postponed](https://www.thedailybeast.com/peter-navarro-lies-that-bidens-inauguration-can-be-postponed)** > > “We can go past that date … we can go past that date if we need to,” Peter Navarro said, accusing Democrats of “legal means to get to an illegal end.” ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2021, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8266 "2021-01-03T19:36:50Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Donald Trump ‘could fly to Scotland to avoid Biden’s presidential inauguration’ I notice that this about 2/3 of the way to Moscow. Coincidence? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2021, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8267 "2021-01-03T19:36:59Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > The UK isn’t allowing Americans in, are they? Per the article: ‘If Trump does fly to Scotland he could be in breach of coronavirus restrictions. Trump Turnberry is effectively closed until February 5 due to Tier 4 rules, according to the resort’s website.’ > [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > This article is long and goes into great detail I can’t wait until it’s not on the paywalled Washington Post! The CNN article doesn’t go into much detail. > [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Trump advisor Peter Navarro claims that Pence has the power to extend the date of the Inauguration, even though the date is explicitly embedded in the Constitution. The Constitution is for OTHER people! ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2021, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8268 "2021-01-03T19:42:58Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Well, aside from the Latin word for skull, and the aqueduct, and sanitation, what have the Romans ever done for us? CONCRETE! They did massive, massive building projects with concrete. They even had marine concrete that tolerated salt water. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2021, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8269 "2021-01-03T19:51:01Z")
Well, aside from the Latin word for skull, and the aqueduct, and sanitation, and CONCRETE, and Rome being a nice city & all, what have the Romans ever done for us? ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2021, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8270 "2021-01-03T19:54:22Z")
You forgot “Roman numerals”. Also the Latin alphabet. Maybe we should make this diversion a game thread? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2021, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8271 "2021-01-03T19:58:22Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > You forgot “Roman numerals”. We mustn’t forget Roman numerals! Otherwise we’ll end up teaching ARABIC numerals to CHILDREN! ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2021, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8272 "2021-01-03T20:04:14Z")
plus X (five char min sort of messing me up) ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2021, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8273 "2021-01-03T20:19:02Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > I can’t wait until it’s not on the paywalled Washington Post! Open it in a private tab. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2021, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8274 "2021-01-03T20:36:48Z")
Here’s the recording, via Twitter. Looks like Trump is 0-2 in perfect calls. [https://twitter.com/amuse/status/1345802513455439876?s=19](https://twitter.com/amuse/status/1345802513455439876?s=19) ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2021, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8275 "2021-01-03T20:54:50Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > CONCRETE! > > They did massive, massive building projects with concrete. They even had marine concrete that tolerated salt water And Roman architecture, building upon and extending Greek architecture. Arches. Corinthian capitals! ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2021, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8276 "2021-01-03T22:43:04Z")
I have a prediction that I want to get on the record here: Trump will commute Lisa Montgomery’s death sentence to life without parole. He will do this for her, and no one else, because she is a white woman and it will play well with (predominantly white) evangelical Christians who will herald it as an act of extraordinary compassion. The mark of a True Christian. Meanwhile, on the left, there will be some (entirely appropriate) grumblings (but no more, and not for long) from progressives who are opposed to the death penalty in general, but find it irksome that Trump chose to exercise his commutation authority specifically on a white woman, and no one else, after having gone out of his way to preside over a record number of executions in the final months of his presidency. This spake ASL. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2021, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8277 "2021-01-03T23:18:46Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > > [@enipla](#): > > > > And now, they want to keep the child in charge because **they are worried that the toddlers that voted for him will be upset if he is rightfully removed by people that can think**. > > Are they really, though? Or is this just a meme they’d like us to buy into? > > I notice they have zero difficulty defying him when they choose to, like over the Defense Authorization Act or increasing stimulus checks to $2,000. They’ve told him no for quite a number of his proposed cabinet appointees over the past 4 years. > > I guess if the choice is to be looked upon as a coward or as a scheming, conniving piece of shit willing to betray your country, ‘coward’ looks pretty good. ^ This. I will grant that many Congressional Republicans dread having Trump follow through on threats to back a primary candidate against them. But it’s a fact, as you point out, that this dread does NOT lead to 100% voting Trump’s way. So, “cowardice” doesn’t really work as an excuse. Their unpatriotic self-dealing in putting their own personal interests before their country is more _nuanced_ than that one word allows. \ > [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > The UK isn’t allowing Americans in, are they? But is Trump an American? Some contend that he is; others feel just as strongly that he is a slime mold. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2021, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8278 "2021-01-03T23:42:45Z")
The WaPo has posted the full audio recording of the phone call between the Secretary of State and Individual 1. > **[‘I just want to find 11,780 votes’: In extraordinary hour-long call, Trump...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/d45acb92-4dc4-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html)** > > In a recording obtained by The Washington Post, President Trump alternately berated, begged and threatened Brad Raffensperger to overturn President-elect Joe Biden’s win in the state. ---
**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8279 "2021-01-04T00:25:22Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > The WaPo has posted the full audio recording of the phone call between the Secretary of State and Individual 1. I just heard that DumbDonald was going to sue Raffensperger for leaking the audio recording of the call. Not surprising. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8280 "2021-01-04T01:31:56Z")
Two weeks, just you wait. The lawsuit is coming. Ghouliani is on it as we speak. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8281 "2021-01-04T01:34:09Z")
> [@smithsb](#): > > Two weeks, just you wait. The lawsuit is coming. Ghouliani is on it as we speak. - Yeah, he’s dyeing to get back in a courtroom. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8282 "2021-01-04T01:35:31Z")
> [@MindsEye\_Watering](#): > > going to sue Raffensperger for leaking the audio recording of the call Ahem… “threaten to sue”. This has always been his bully-boy strategery. He’s one fry short of a happy meal at this point. I really do think that Trump is in the process of a full and complete breakdown. (grabs popcorn) ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8283 "2021-01-04T02:06:25Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Yeah, he’s dyeing to get back in a courtroom Maybe with something a little more waterproof this time? ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8284 "2021-01-04T03:20:16Z")
If he does do so it will be at the last minute by telephone after she has already been strapped down, just like they do it in the movies. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=412) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=414)