# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1)

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**Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\
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It _could_ mean that he is dragged out by orderlies rather than by law enforcement.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8406 "2021-01-07T13:29:34Z")

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Mick Mulvaney resigns:

> <https://twitter.com/KatiePhang/status/1347170762654949378?s=19>

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8407 "2021-01-07T13:44:52Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Mick Mulvaney resigns:

From [this story](https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/07/mick-mulvaney-resigns-from-trump-administration-expects-others-to-follow.html):

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> “I can’t do it. I can’t stay,” said Mulvaney, adding that Trump was “not the same as he was eight months ago.”

Sorry, asshole, but he’s EXACTLY the same as he was eight months ago.

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**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8408 "2021-01-07T13:49:03Z")

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Yep, I just can’t get over the “shock” some people are displaying.

I like the term gormless worms. Very evocative to me.

I’m moving from anger to sadness and back again so often this morning, I’m making my own head spin.

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**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8409 "2021-01-07T13:50:46Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> Sorry, asshole, but he’s EXACTLY the same as he was eight months ago.

Actually, I agree he’s worse. Though he started at absolutely horrible and went utterly horrific.  
I think the toll of watching everything crumble and the walls closing in broke him. There’s also this.  
[https://www.reuters.com/article/health-coronavirus-mental-illness-int/one-in-five-covid-19-patients-develop-mental-illness-within-90-days-study-idUSKBN27P35N](https://www.reuters.com/article/health-coronavirus-mental-illness-int/one-in-five-covid-19-patients-develop-mental-illness-within-90-days-study-idUSKBN27P35N)

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**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8410 "2021-01-07T13:57:04Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Actually, I agree he’s worse.

I think he’s exactly the same, just reacting to a different set of circumstances. But it’s really a potato/potahto type of situation. He’s always been fucking monstrous, and no-one who was willing to work for him eight months ago–or eight days ago, as Mulvaney was–has any business drawing these fine distinctions as an excuse.

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**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8411 "2021-01-07T14:16:22Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Having lost this same election over and over again – more times than anyone has ever lost any election anywhere ever

A coward dies a thousand times before his death.

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> [@74westy](#):
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> A coward dies a thousand times before his death. -

A brave man dies but once.  
But that’s all it really takes, right?

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**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8413 "2021-01-07T14:22:42Z")

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A fairly accurate paraphrase of the original but seems to have slightly altered the spirit. 🙂

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Oops.

> **[Rudy Giuliani leaves voicemail for wrong senator](https://www.avclub.com/rudy-giuliani-accidentally-leaves-voicemail-for-wrong-s-1846006062)**
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> "Senator Tuberville? Or I should say Coach Tuberville," Rudy Giuliani says in a voicemail of Donald Trump's lawyer begging the senator to slow down the electoral college vote verification. There was a big problem, though. Giuliani called the wrong...

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**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8415 "2021-01-07T15:34:46Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Catherine Rampell’s summary: “Got that? Per Republicans, the storming of the Capitol was good and right and done by patriots, but also was somehow that guy Joe Biden’s fault.”
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> Very scary stuff if this quick poll was accurate, and if it was, I think it portends either the end of the Republican party or the end of America as we know it.
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> Incidentally, just as a clarification to my previous post, the orange shit-gibbon’s statement actually did appear on Twitter, but it was posted by Dan Scavino, his social media director. Trump himself has to sit in the corner until his Twitter timeout is over.

Well, I think about it this way: while the Trumpsters are hitting Democrats as usual, what is unusual is that now the Republican party is also the target of the Trumpsters. [Now, as per the latest from PEW](https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2020/06/02/democratic-edge-in-party-identification-narrows-slightly/), there are roughly 44% of voters that are or lean republican. If the latest poll that you are talking about is correct, then a bit less than half of those are Trumpsters with no redeeming quality.

Not big enough to counter Democrats, but big enough to become a perennial monkey wrench to the Republican party leadership that just came to disown Trump.

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> [@Baal\_Houtham](#):
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> “The end to the greatest first term…” The way he’s phrasing it doesn’t say what the orderly transition will be. Maybe it’s an armed transition into the greatest, and longest, second term ever. Law and order, ya know?

I was thinking the same thing. The statement says nothing about a transition to a Biden presidency.

We may yet see this scumbag perp-walked out of the White House.

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That message was tweeted by Dan Scavino who would have known how to make it sound like Donnie. Has anyone seen or heard from trump in person since yesterday afternoon?

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### [Trump banned from Facebook indefinitely, CEO Mark Zuckerberg says](https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/01/07/trump-twitter-ban/)

[https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/01/07/trump-twitter-ban/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/01/07/trump-twitter-ban/)

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> **[Pelosi joins growing call for Trump to be immediately removed from office,...](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/schumer-calls-pence-use-25th-amendment-remove-trump-office-n1253296)**
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> She joins presumptive Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer in pressing the vice president to force Trump out.

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Fuck all these people.

“I am proud the have served and proud of our accomplishments blah blah blah…”

Fuck you. YOU helped this happen.

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I think it would be a serious breech of protocol–and possibly criminal–if that didn’t come from the president. Dunno if anybody would risk that at this point.

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**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8422 "2021-01-07T18:01:45Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Has anyone seen or heard from trump in person since yesterday afternoon?

He called into a RNC breakfast meeting this morning, [as reported by WaPo](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/01/07/congress-election-biden-capitol-live-updates/):

> [@](#):
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> Trump briefly called in to the Republican National Committee’s winter meeting Thursday morning — and received a loud and overwhelmingly enthusiastic reception when RNC Chair Ronna McDaniel put him on speakerphone, according to people in the room.
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> “We love you!” some in the room yelled.
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> Addressing RNC members by phone as they held a private, members-only breakfast at the Ritz-Carlton on Amelia Island in Florida, Trump said he had heard that the news media had falsely reported he would not be speaking. He told the RNC members he wanted to speak, was sorry to miss the event and looked forward to seeing them in person.
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> Trump made no mention of Wednesday’s violence at the U.S. Capitol, according to the people present, who were not authorized to speak publicly about the president’s remarks. Trump had originally intended to deliver a longer speech but is not scheduled to address the event Thursday night.

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> [@Deeg](#):
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> I think it would be a serious breech of protocol–and possibly criminal–if that didn’t come from the president.

Hey, this is Donald J Serious Breach of Protocol Trump we’re talking about here.

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[# The rioter who took photos at Nancy Pelosi’s desk recently said he’s a white nationalist prepared for a violent death](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/the-rioter-who-took-photos-at-nancy-pelosis-desk-recently-said-hes-a-white-nationalist-prepared-for-a-violent-death/ar-BB1cytWz?li=BBnb7Kz)

The he should be disappointed by the 10 year prison sentence.

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