# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 421
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8425 "2021-01-07T18:35:51Z")
I passed one of the three local Donald Trump for President stores at lunchtime today (since the election, they’ve been selling “Stop the Steal” merchandise. There’s a new addition – a huge sign reading ALL ITEMS BUY ONE GET ONE FREE! Evidently they see the handwriting on the wall. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8426 "2021-01-07T18:37:41Z")
So will Trump’s White Trash Nation be rioting on a regular basis now, or will the toothless, sister-fuckers disperse and fade away once the Orange Piece of Shit is booted from 1600 Penn? ---
**Author:** ![MikeF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MikeF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeF)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8427 "2021-01-07T18:41:03Z")
Can we change the title of this thread to "Trump : The Unmaking of a Clusterfuck Administration "? ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8428 "2021-01-07T18:53:50Z")
[Elaine Chao resigns](https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/07/politics/elaine-chao-cabinet-resignation-trump/index.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twCNN&utm_term=link&utm_content=2021-01-07T18%3A49%3A05) ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8429 "2021-01-07T18:57:23Z")
At this moment Biden is ripping Trump a new asshole at a news conference. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8430 "2021-01-07T19:02:20Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > At this moment Biden is ripping Trump a new asshole at a news conference. - Recursive, doncha’ think? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Frazzled](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frazzled/32/3368_2.png) [@Frazzled](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frazzled)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8431 "2021-01-07T19:04:31Z")
It will be interesting to see how much power he can still wield. For example, will we see any more pardons? Will he give any more Presidential Medals of Freedom? No doubt if he had any longer than 2 weeks in office there’d be serious actions to remove him from office, but maybe there are some behind the scenes to save him the disgrace of actually being kicked out of office no matter how much he deserves that fate. Maybe the only real way to know if he’s still in “charge” is the relative sanity of the next 2 weeks. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8432 "2021-01-07T19:07:19Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > He called into a RNC breakfast meeting this morning, [as reported by WaPo](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/01/07/congress-election-biden-capitol-live-updates/): Thanks. That’s what I’ve been wondering. So some people have heard his voice. And they’re sure it was him? Has anyone seen him? These days, nothing is too weird to imagine. > [@Deeg](#): > > I think it would be a serious breech of protocol–and possibly criminal–if that didn’t come from the president. Dunno if anybody would risk that at this point. Unless he was dead or incapacitated, and his cronies didn’t want the news getting out. Cf. Woodrow Wilson. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8433 "2021-01-07T19:12:29Z")
I unfortunately don’t think that any of them will occur, and that instead the Republicans will just try to do what they can behind the scenes to limit any damage that Trump can do while they wait out the next two weeks, but in term of your scenarios, impeachment seems the most viable. The members of Trumps cabinet are among the least likely to turn on him and most of the good ones seem to be resigning which I take as evidence that they don’t think the 25th route is viable. For impeachment all it would really take is McConnell deciding that it is in the best interest of the party for Trump to be forcibly kicked out. If it has a chance to succeed, all the Dems in both houses will vote for it no questions asked, and McConnell is convinced its a sure bet that they can find 16 additional Republicans to go along with it. But as I said, I don’t think he’ll pull the trigger. Doing so would irretrievably split his party and likely lead to his losing his station as even minority leader. And McConnell who has never before put country over party is unlikely to start now. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8434 "2021-01-07T19:13:15Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > At this moment Biden is ripping Trump a new asshole at a news conference. I’m watching his speech, I had the exact same thought. I wrote to a friend: “Biden now speaking. He rips Trump a new one”. Great speech, and I’ve never heard Biden so angry and agitated. But very presidential, for a long overdue change. ---
**Author:** ![Frazzled](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frazzled/32/3368_2.png) [@Frazzled](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frazzled)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8435 "2021-01-07T19:14:17Z")
I’d forgotten that she’s Mitch McConnell’s wife. That has to be significant. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8436 "2021-01-07T19:16:44Z")
> [@EinsteinsHund](#): > > I’m watching his speech, I had the exact same thought. I wrote to a friend: “Biden now speaking. He rips Trump a new one”. Great speech, and I’ve never heard Biden so angry and agitated. But very presidential, for a long overdue change Maybe the next thread title should be “The Biden Administration: The Declusterfucking of America” ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8437 "2021-01-07T19:19:23Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > And McConnell who has never before put country over party is unlikely to start now. He may put self preservation over party. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8438 "2021-01-07T19:21:56Z")
He’s got to be conscious of how he wants his career to end. The triumph of conservatizing the judiciary might be _trumped_ (hehe) by this latest shitshow. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8439 "2021-01-07T19:27:53Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > So will Trump’s White Trash Nation be rioting on a regular basis now, or will the toothless, sister-fuckers disperse and fade away once the Orange Piece of Shit is booted from 1600 Penn? They’ll metaphorically wander aimlessly until galvanized by a new trashy figurehead. Hawley, for example. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8440 "2021-01-07T19:29:23Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > Elaine Chao resigns Is it too much to hope for, that she’ll get Mitch to retire and go traveling with her? ---
**Author:** ![MikeF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MikeF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeF)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8441 "2021-01-07T19:34:37Z")
This morning NPR was interviewing some Republican spokesman or another. He was asked if he held McConnell at all responsible or if he should have acted against Trump sooner. The reply was (and I paraphrase). ‘Mitch did his job. Trump had an agenda and Mitch helped him achieve it.’ I immediately thought, “You have it backwards. McConnell had (and still has) an agenda and Trump helped him achieve it. Because of that, McConnell allowed him to run wild until his usefulness was used up”. On another note, I had on a Fox-type radio show on today and Chris Christie was the guest. I couldn’t help but smile as Christie trashed Trump’s post-election actions and statements. The host was clearly unprepared for it. “But, what about Dominion machines? What about the inability of Trump’s lawyers to be heard in court?” and so on. Christie shot down each of this schmuck’s points, one at time. The host didn’t know what to say next. As a Garden Stater, I’m no fan of Christie but this was sweet. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8442 "2021-01-07T19:45:19Z")
> [@MikeF](#): > > I immediately thought, “You have it backwards. McConnell had (and still has) an agenda and Trump helped him achieve it. Because of that, McConnell allowed him to run wild until his usefulness was used up”. This X 1,000! Mitch is a bigger loser than Donnie. A cold, calculating, unprincipled bastard. ---
**Author:** ![SoToasty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sotoasty/32/2803_2.png) [@SoToasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SoToasty)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8443 "2021-01-07T19:58:39Z")
With the resignations today, our Evil Orange Overlord (after almost 4 years) is finally starting to keep one of his campaign promises. He is starting to Drain the Swamp. Hopefully it will be empty in 2 weeks. ---
**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8444 "2021-01-07T19:58:40Z")
I don’t disagree with the cold and calculating but to be fair Mitch had nothing to do with Trump getting elected. Mitch played the hand he was dealt with and from an agenda standpoint did quite well. We’ll never get the truth (and we wouldn’t believe it if we did) but I would not be surprised if he secretly would have liked Trump to get convicted early last year. His mistake was not coming out against Trump’s CTs early and strong enough. After the election he was still hoping to ride the Trump train and hop off after the GA run-offs and that likely back-fired. Yesterday’s riot compounded the error but I’m not sure how much effect McConnell could have had. The Trumpists would have just turned on him. (Note: this is purely an argument from the GOP agenda. Personally I was against most of McConnell’s political moves.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=420) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=422)