# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 432
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8645 "2021-01-11T21:23:08Z")
they aren’t on EDT at the moment; they are on EST ---
**Author:** ![tricoteuse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tricoteuse/32/4334_2.png) [@tricoteuse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tricoteuse)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8646 "2021-01-11T21:25:02Z")
This is why I just shouldn’t post. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8647 "2021-01-11T21:26:22Z")
we are all ignoramuses one way or another ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8648 "2021-01-11T21:28:07Z")
hey i forgot it took a ⅔ majority in the Senate to impeach in a post i made today [/shrug] we all brain fart occasionally ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8649 "2021-01-11T21:33:42Z")
Not the Onion. Mick Mulvaney doesn’t understand how the MAGAts could possibly have taken Individual 1 seriously. > **[The most hardcore Trump backers have \*always\* taken him literally | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/11/politics/mick-mulvaney-riots-capitol/index.html)** > > Former White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney said Sunday that he was stunned at the storming of the US Capitol by pro-Trump forces last week because he hadn't thought that people took the President "literally." ---
**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8650 "2021-01-11T22:29:07Z")
To be somewhat fair to Mulvaney, I’ve heard plenty of Trump supporters/apologists say “don’t pay any attention to what he says” over the years, as if somehow that excuses it. So it’s not just him. The article is spot on about how people delude themselves. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8651 "2021-01-11T22:32:51Z")
> [@smithsb](#): > > They forgot to lead with, “This is only a test exercise message.” > > We’d have to lead and follow all transmissions that the public could monitor during training exercises with that message. Kind of like this, right? > [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Not the Onion. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8652 "2021-01-11T22:39:56Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Mick Mulvaney doesn’t understand how the MAGAts could possibly have taken Individual 1 seriously. Does he think the last 4 years were all some kind of big joke? Performance art? Did he just think that everyone would just assume the president of the country was being ignored like a senile uncle at Thanksgiving dinner who sits at the table with his underpants on his head? ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8653 "2021-01-11T22:43:35Z")
Thank you for that. 🙂 [![](https://i.imgur.com/vQ7gDr4.jpg) ](https://i.imgur.com/vQ7gDr4.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8654 "2021-01-11T22:43:44Z")
[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xLUEMj6cwA) ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8655 "2021-01-11T23:00:40Z")
Acting Secretary of Homeland Security Chad Wolfe resigns. Days after a mob storms the Capitol and a week before the inauguration which as already been threatened - presumably to avoid having to be put to the screws over a 25th amendment vote. One more profile in courage. [CNN Cite](https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/11/politics/chad-wolf-homeland-security/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8656 "2021-01-11T23:09:00Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > One more profile in courage. - > > [CNN Cite](https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/11/politics/chad-wolf-homeland-security/index.html) Why do all those profiles all look like the side view of buttocks? ---
**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8657 "2021-01-11T23:16:12Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > Acting Secretary of Homeland Security Chad Wolfe resigns. Another gutless yellow coward. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8658 "2021-01-11T23:17:48Z")
FBI says armed protests being planned at all state capitols and DC: > **[FBI warns 'armed protests' being planned at all 50 state capitols and in...](https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/11/politics/fbi-bulletin-armed-protests-state-us-capitol/index.html)** > > The FBI has received information indicating "armed protests" are being planned at all 50 state capitols and the US Capitol in Washington, DC in the days leading up to President-elect Joe Biden's inauguration on January 20, according to an internal... In related news, **[former aide says the Slovenian hooker is Trump’s major enabler](https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2021/01/11/stephanie-wolkoff-melania-trump-nr-keilar-vpx.cnn)**. The Orange Peril may get his civil war yet, especially if he’s successfully impeached and convicted. . ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8659 "2021-01-11T23:24:46Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > In related news, **[former aide says the Slovenian hooker is Trump’s major enabler](https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2021/01/11/stephanie-wolkoff-melania-trump-nr-keilar-vpx.cnn)**. So when she organized the inauguration and worked for Melania for two years and enabled the Trumps’ corrupt regime… was she just doing research for her psychology PhD? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8660 "2021-01-11T23:30:56Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > That… is bizarre. At the moment, I’d say hackers…?? Although nothing would surprise me at this point. **And I can see Pompeo trying to take the reins**. If there is a go-between between Trump and Pence, I imagine it’s Pompeo. Who does Pompeo think he is? Alexander Haig? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8661 "2021-01-11T23:33:08Z")
> [@rocking\_chair](#): > > Isn’t that 7 ish in the evening? It is, GMT. As I post this, GMT IS 2133. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8662 "2021-01-11T23:38:08Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > > [@wolfpup](#): > > > > In related news, **[former aide says the Slovenian hooker is Trump’s major enabler](https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2021/01/11/stephanie-wolkoff-melania-trump-nr-keilar-vpx.cnn)**. > > So when she organized the inauguration and worked for Melania for two years and enabled the Trumps’ corrupt regime… was she just doing research for her psychology PhD? Good point. I’m not excusing her, just reporting the news. Frankly Wolkoff seems like a bit of a sketchy character herself, but I wouldn’t dismiss her observations out of hand. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8663 "2021-01-11T23:59:42Z")
No one has to excuse her; she takes responsibility for her role in the administration in that very interview. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8664 "2021-01-12T01:02:15Z")
I’m the one that’s been saying Trump’s a gangster and a conman and since 2015. I remember, before a debate, posting that the debate thing was pissing me off because it was like watching Warren Buffet and Bernie Madoff debate financial policy. It’s shouldn’t have been that hard to see. But we didn’t have a choice and we had to accept him as President even though he was utterly corrupt. I see the conundrum if you’re in the government. I’m going to be a little fair. You need to pretend you don’t see it to keep your job. You even need to break the law yourself to keep your job. Not big laws, you tell yourself - just those fussy little ones that make it so hard to get a contract or two for his friend’s company. You tell yourself it’s no big deal because the contracts were at a fair price even if they bypassed the process. You know you aren’t supposed to do any campaigning while in this trip, but he asked you to talk up his campaign to these people. Everybody does it. This is how corruption starts. Then maybe when it got to be a little more than these tiny little things, nothing burgers as an individual act but collectively destructive to the integrity of the system. Everyone has their breaking point. Maybe you keep your mouth shut about a couple of these pressure campaigns and quit. Maybe you go a little farther down the rabbit hole and quit. Maybe you love it, you think of breaking these administrative laws as justified and are gleeful about defeating the deep state. But if But Trump is a gangster and he’s been running the White House like a gangster. No way they missed it, but they may have felt that if they left, their replacement would break big laws, so it was a public service to for them stick around and only break little laws. I don’t know if you really think business inside the White House has been conducted honestly and with integrity. I don’t, because there’s a megalomaniacal gangster in the White House, holding half of Congress hostage by threatening to destroy their careers and …in the past month or so…having his followers threaten them and their families if they don’t do what he says. Except for the congressman he put in the office to help him overthrow the government. God, I really hope you ( the collective you, not addressed at you specifically) are starting to see this. It’s been tweaking me for five years. ETA: This really isn’t directed specifically at you, Deeg. I was answering you but my post changed so much while I was editing it isn’t that relevant. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=431) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=433)