# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 434
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8686 "2021-01-12T11:34:27Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > Well, that 747 that landed at Lethbridge (with its 3600’ runway), also took off from Lethbridge, later. > > Just saying, is all. Considering the quality of the people Trump usually hires… ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8687 "2021-01-12T13:01:47Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > Well, that 747 that landed at Lethbridge (with its 3600’ runway), also took off from Lethbridge, later. > > Just saying, is all. Yeah, but presumably it took off basically empty. Trump would surely be too much weight to get off the ground. > [@running\_coach](#): > > Considering the quality of the people Trump usually hires… You’re forgetting the #1 rule - Trump never puts himself in danger. I’m sure his pilots are very highly rated. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8688 "2021-01-12T13:14:32Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > Well, that 747 that landed at Lethbridge (with its 3600’ runway), also took off from Lethbridge, later. > > Just saying, is all. Yeah. You eliminate all passengers/crew except for the most very essential. You strip the interior of everything practical/possible to reduce weight. You very carefully calculate the minimal fuel required to get to a longer runway. As I said, there are techniques for doing this. I somehow doubt Trump would be willing to fly sitting on the floor of a fuselage stripped back to the bulkheads. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8689 "2021-01-12T13:17:09Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > > > No, Mike; it isn’t similar. And _you’re_ the authoritarian cloaked in moral righteousness; let’s not mince words. > > Is Pompeo really that stupid, or does this just reek of mendacious hypocrisy? Hard to say. Pompeo did once also say that it was God who caused Trump to become president, praise the Lord. > > Someone should explain to the moron that authoritarianism arises from Nazi-style governments like the one he’s defending with the passion of a latter-day Joseph Goebbels, not from individuals and private businesses responsibly exercising the rights of liberty. Pompeo IS the Goebbels equivalent. He’s thrown in with Trump. He knows damn well what he’s doing and yes, he is blatantly lying. You don’t have to explain it to him. It’s not hypocrisy, it’s not delusion, it’s not accidental, it’s deliberate and evil. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8690 "2021-01-12T13:21:17Z")
That’s pretty much how I see it too, **Broomstick**. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8691 "2021-01-12T13:27:25Z")
Pompeo is a fundamentalist nutjob who thinks about foreign policy, especially in the Middle East, in a framework of biblical eschatology. He literally believes that God sent Trump as part of his plan to guide the world toward Armageddon. We should remember that Pence is also a fundamentalist nutjob of this ilk, as we lean on the VP as a last resort to stop Trump engaging in some insane military action this week. > **[Donald Trump: The End-Times President](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/donald-trump-christians-fundamentalists-end-times-rapture-1083131/)** > > How fundamentalist Christians who believe in the apocalyptic myth of “the rapture” could be shaping Trump’s agenda — and American life > **[Pompeo agrees it's possible God raised Trump to protect Israel from Iranian...](https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/22/politics/mike-pompeo-donald-trump-israel-golan-heights/index.html)** > > Secretary of State Mike Pompeo agreed with a suggestion posed in an interview Thursday that it's possible God raised Donald Trump to be President in order to protect Israel from Iran. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8692 "2021-01-12T14:09:28Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > > [@Spoons](#): > > > > Well, that 747 that landed at Lethbridge (with its 3600’ runway), also took off from Lethbridge, later. > > > > Just saying, is all. > > Considering the quality of the people Trump usually hires… By which, of course, you mean The BestTM. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8693 "2021-01-12T14:24:49Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > I somehow doubt Trump would be willing to fly sitting on the floor of a fuselage stripped back to the bulkheads. Can we duck-tape him to the leading edge of the tail fin? ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8694 "2021-01-12T14:30:26Z")
No, that would mess up the aerodynamics. Strap him to the landing gear. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8695 "2021-01-12T14:45:13Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > However, Trump does have options even if banned from conventional flying: Well, he could also strap himself to a rocket like Wile E. Coyote (hopefully with similar results on landing). ---
**Author:** ![Turek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/turek/32/18782_2.png) [@Turek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turek)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8696 "2021-01-12T14:52:28Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > Yeah, but presumably it took off basically empty. Trump would surely be too much weight to get off the ground. They could shove a JATO up his ass. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8697 "2021-01-12T15:23:25Z")
You’re FIRED! ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_McQwark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@Steve\_McQwark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_McQwark)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8698 "2021-01-12T15:25:39Z")
> [@Turek](#): > > > [@Folacin](#): > > > > Yeah, but presumably it took off basically empty. Trump would surely be too much weight to get off the ground. > > They could shove a JATO up his ass. I am simultaneously amused and appalled by that image. I imagine the Germans have a word for that. Danke, Herr, darf ich noch einen haben. (Google assures me that that means “Thank you, sir, may I have another”) ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8699 "2021-01-12T15:28:35Z")
> [@Steve\_McQwark](#): > > I imagine the Germans have a word for that. Schadenfreude comes pretty close ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8700 "2021-01-12T15:40:35Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > I somehow doubt Trump would be willing to fly sitting on the floor of a fuselage stripped back to the bulkheads. I am now picturing this: A large cargo plane. Empty and stripped except for a pedestal in the middle with a metal chair on it. Trump is strapped to the chair, Hannibal Lecter style, mask and all. The plane is flying him away. Far away. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8701 "2021-01-12T15:42:14Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Trump is strapped to the chair, Hannibal Lecter style, mask and all. I’d prefer strapped to the roof, space shuttle style. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8702 "2021-01-12T15:44:42Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > Schadenfreude comes pretty close What’s the German for that whooshing sound? ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8703 "2021-01-12T16:38:16Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > What’s the German for that whooshing sound? . Lauteswuschgeräusch? ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8704 "2021-01-12T17:19:43Z")
A learned man once said: > Those Germans have a word for everything. ---
**Author:** ![tripthicket](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripthicket/32/297_2.png) [@tripthicket](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tripthicket)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8705 "2021-01-12T17:27:37Z")
I think it was @Ann_Hedonia who said that we may be suffering from an inability to imagine what could possibly happen in the near future (paraphrasing; sorry if I mangled your meaning, Ann). So I sat and thought, What’s the absolute craziest, no-way-that-could-never-happen, _stupidest_ shit I could come up with. Trump is gonna go to Alamo, Texas and declare secession from the United States. He’s going to call on all red states to join his new nation (ignoring the fact that blue states mostly carry red states financially). He of course will be President For Life of The United States of Trump, or just TRUMP Nation. No way that could ever happen. Right? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=433) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=435)