# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 439
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8786 "2021-01-13T14:21:56Z")
Locked ain’t enough. Fucker needs to be gone. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8787 "2021-01-13T15:26:30Z")
> [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](#): > > And I’ll restate my thought that they should invite Clinton, Bush and Obama to meet and greet Biden at the White House on the 20th. That sight might be the last straw on Trump’s Blood Pressure… Hear, hear, plus a lot. Put Pence in there too, not so much out of what would most likely be false solidarity but just to rub it in Don’s nose. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8788 "2021-01-13T15:29:36Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > Notice that the account has had no posts since January 6. It’s possible that Facebook has locked the account so no-one can post to it, but has just left the account itself visible. This is it. It’s notoriously hard to delete a Facebook account. Most social media platforms have technically “suspended” the accounts, rather than banning them. Facebook, in particular, left open the possibility the suspension will be lifted after a month, which is par for the course for them. As soon as the PR cost exceeded a certain threshold, suspend the account, then bring it back when the heat has died down. They don’t want to lose all that juicy revenue in the long term, after all. ---
**Author:** ![Frazzled](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frazzled/32/3368_2.png) [@Frazzled](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frazzled)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8789 "2021-01-13T15:31:15Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > “You can either go down in history as a patriot, or you can go down in history as a pussy,” Trump told Pence I think Trump has been watching the new Cobra Kai! If he said something like “Don’t be pussies, be badasses and grow some hair on your balls” then we’d know for sure! A true MAGAt rallying cry! ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8790 "2021-01-13T15:57:35Z")
> [@mistymage](#): > > > [@Broomstick](#): > > > > Yeah, dude is supposed to be banned. I went to Facebook and reported the profile. I suggest anyone else with an account do likewise. > > If you notice Trump himself is not posting anywhere. So it appears they locked him out of his account. They “blocked” him. He can still see his account but can’t log-in to post or delete anything. > > Which is different than a real banning. A real banning is when they nuke your account. Nothing left to be seen. Can they legally do that? I was under the impression his thumb-typed verbal diarrhea were Official Records. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8791 "2021-01-13T16:11:55Z")
They can take down the data and preserve it somewhere other than the internet interface. Like take something off a bulletin board and putting it in a box or drawer. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8792 "2021-01-13T16:14:59Z")
> [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > Can they legally do that? I was under the impression his thumb-typed verbal diarrhea were Official Records. Yes, they can. Unless someone can point to place in the Official Records Act that grants the President unfettered access to all social media. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8793 "2021-01-13T16:17:47Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > They can take down the data and preserve it somewhere other than the internet interface. Like take something off a bulletin board and putting it in a box or drawer. Yeah - I didn’t think that all the way through. > [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > > [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > > > Can they legally do that? I was under the impression his thumb-typed verbal diarrhea were Official Records. > > Yes, they can. Unless someone can point to place in the Official Records Act that grants the President unfettered access to all social media. You can cut off his access fine, but I do not think they can delete the account. ---
**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8794 "2021-01-13T16:19:02Z")
It’s not Facebook’s responsibility to preserve any Presidential records for posterity. That responsibility falls on the President. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8795 "2021-01-13T16:32:44Z")
What law prevents them from deleting an account? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8796 "2021-01-13T16:48:40Z")
They can put the account on a thumb drive and send it to the “official presidential records committee” or whatever the hell it’s called. I believe the Trump Presidential Library will consist of a USB flash drive kept in an old Altoids tin in the bottom of a filing cabinet in the basement of the office of the undersecretary in agriculture in charge of bovine scrapings. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8797 "2021-01-13T16:58:29Z")
And it’s guarded by a very hungry leopard, if the sign on the door is to be believed. ---
**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8798 "2021-01-13T17:11:59Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > They can put the account on a thumb drive and send it to the “official presidential records committee” or whatever the hell it’s called. They don’t have to and they shouldn’t. If they delete all his posts and they are lost because the President hasn’t seen to having a system in place to continuously download and store them, the President has broken the law, not Facebook. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8799 "2021-01-13T17:17:37Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > I believe the Trump Presidential Library will consist of a USB flash drive kept in an old Altoids tin in the bottom of a filing cabinet in the basement of the office of the undersecretary in agriculture in charge of bovine scrapings. Hey, that was my idea! I’ve been saving Altoids tins for just that porpoise. I want my shot at ~~immorality~~ immortality, too! Anyway, the tin will be kept in the janitor’s closet at Trump Tower (or whatever they change the name to). Maybe Donnie will wind up being the janitor. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8800 "2021-01-13T17:27:18Z")
> [@Morgyn](#): > > And it’s guarded by a very hungry leopard, if the sign on the door is to be believed. I was told, though, that it won’t eat my face. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8801 "2021-01-13T18:37:05Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Hey, that was my idea! I’ve been saving Altoids tins for just that porpoise. I think I unconsciously must have stolen that from you… Or maybe not. You’ll just have to flipper coin to find out. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8802 "2021-01-13T18:41:35Z")
There’s no real requirement that there even is a Trump Presidential Library. His Presidential records are required to be preserved, but it only has to be part of the federal system. Nixon’s library came very late (1990?) and didn’t even house his Presidential materials until this century after some kind of agreement on joint administration of the site with the appropriate federal body. I suspect Trump hasn’t really thought about it though, and if asked, probably thinks the Federal government or his home state (whether he claims NY or FL) will foot the bill for one - just like he thinks some major airport will be named for him just for the thrill of it. He’ll probably whinge about that as well when they tell him to pound sand if he wants any money for any such thing. He can, via fund raising or on his own dime, build his library himself, though I suspect any additional funds he raised from his gullible followers are more likely going to line his pockets and those of his defense lawyers. ---
**Author:** ![MrAtoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MrAtoz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrAtoz)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8803 "2021-01-13T18:52:40Z")
I’ve wondered before about whether Trump’s tweets will be included in the [Public Papers of the Presidents](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Papers_of_the_Presidents). Now I’m wondering if his speech of January 6th will be included, and what sort of editorial comment will accompany it. It really is darkly fascinating to me to see how official government history will eventually treat the Trump presidency. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8804 "2021-01-13T19:06:37Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > There’s no real requirement that there even is a Trump Presidential Library. [But there already is one!](https://djtrumplibrary.com/) (note, this is not real - it’s a fake, and it’s wonderful) They just updated the site - the library is at 1 MAGA ln, Nogales, AZ Woah! They’ve really expanded offerings at [The Grift Shop](https://djtrumplibrary.com/shop). And, it looks like everything there is an actual item for sale somewhere! ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8805 "2021-01-13T19:22:07Z")
There’s a photo of Lauren Boebert taking photos in front of the Capitol the day before the attack, with seditionists, some of whom are flashing white power signs. [https://twitter.com/BrightonSusie/status/1349193340659486720/photo/1](https://twitter.com/BrightonSusie/status/1349193340659486720/photo/1) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=438) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=440)