# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 440
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8806 "2021-01-13T19:30:33Z")
> [@MrAtoz](#): > > It really is darkly fascinating to me to see how official government history will eventually treat the Trump presidency “The Trump Interregnum” ---
**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8807 "2021-01-13T19:31:34Z")
Biden has been saying for weeks that he would do that as soon as he was inaugurated. Trump stole it to try to win friends. Same old, same old. Steals the positives, denies/lies about the negatives. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8808 "2021-01-13T19:33:37Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > There’s a photo of Lauren Boebert I guess we certainly know where she stands when asked “Are you with us or with the terrorists?” One thing is certain - when she goes into any government building from now on, she’d better be subject to extra security measures, as she has shown herself to be a threat. Maybe the secret service should station an armed officer to tail her and stand beside her at all times she is near any politician. ---
**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8809 "2021-01-13T20:58:40Z")
The picture is a year old and from a Colorado event. The congressman who first tweeted it has already deleted that tweet. > **[GOP-backed QAnon congressional nominee Lauren Boebert rallied with far-right...](https://t.co/s6KFvDREEz?amp=1)** ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8810 "2021-01-13T21:00:05Z")
Thanks for the correction. ---
**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2021, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8811 "2021-01-14T02:28:52Z")
> [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](#): > > [But there already is one!](https://djtrumplibrary.com/) “The Wall of Criminality, funded completely by the state of Mexico”. Awesome. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2021, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8812 "2021-01-14T02:45:16Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > > [@casdave](#): > > > > Thing is, if they can get impeachment and removal quickly it might well prevent further investigations into Trumps overall culpability - there are likely to be all sorts of things and collusions from plenty of other senior Republicans that would come to light. > > [Lawmakers Gave ‘Reconnaissance’ Tours of Capitol](https://politicalwire.com/2021/01/12/lawmakers-gave-reconnaissance-tours-of-capitol/) I’ve heard this story mentioned–in an ‘await further developments’ context–on NPR, on Chris Hayes’ show, and on CNN and MSNBC shows I was flipping around through, this afternoon. In other words, it appears to be credible enough that it’s being investigated. Jerry Nadler referred to it on the House floor today. (Looking for the quote; not finding it yet, though it is contained in this segment from _All In with Chris Hayes_: > **[How the threat of violence has haunted politics in the Trump era](https://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/how-the-threat-of-violence-has-haunted-politics-in-the-trump-era-99424837951)** > > Chris Hayes: The threat of violence is “the reality, the menace, the intolerable ingredient that Donald Trump has helped add to politics in this era. And it threatens the very core of liberal democracy itself.” ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2021, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8813 "2021-01-14T02:54:07Z")
> [@KarlGauss](#): > > “The Wall of Criminality, funded completely by the state of Mexico”. > Awesome. Is that a deliberate fuckup on their part? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2021, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8814 "2021-01-14T03:05:43Z")
> **[Trump demands his staff not pay Giuliani's legal fees for helping him try to...](https://www.rawstory.com/trump-wont-pay-rudy-giuliani/)** > > On Wednesday, The Washington Post reported that outgoing President Donald Trump is reluctant to pay his longtime friend and attorney Rudy Giuliani for his legal services in the election lawsuits — and has instructed staff not to approve the... > “Though Trump has been exceptionally furious with Vice President Pence, his relationship with lawyer Rudolph W. Giuliani, one of his most steadfast defenders, is also fracturing, according to people with knowledge of the dynamics between the men,” reported Philip Rucker, Josh Dawsey, and Ashley Parker. “Trump has instructed aides not to pay Giuliani’s legal fees, two officials said, and has demanded that he personally approve any reimbursements for the expenses Giuliani incurred while traveling on the president’s behalf to challenge election results in key states. They said Trump has privately expressed concern with some of Giuliani’s moves and did not appreciate a demand from Giuliani for $20,000 a day in fees for his work attempting to overturn the election.” ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2021, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8815 "2021-01-14T03:09:05Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > [Trump demands his staff not pay Giuliani's legal fees for helping him try to overturn the election: report - Raw Story](https://www.rawstory.com/trump-wont-pay-rudy-giuliani/) - He could at least give him bus fare. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2021, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8816 "2021-01-14T03:16:46Z")
Ghoulani not getting paid? By DumpsterFire? Who could have foreseen that? I, for one, am shocked; shocked I tell you. Okay, not that shocked. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2021, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8817 "2021-01-14T03:21:34Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > He could at least give him bus fare. Because pretty soon he’ll be on the no-fly list. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2021, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8818 "2021-01-14T03:22:29Z")
Maybe an Alamo rental car for a while? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2021, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8819 "2021-01-14T03:24:08Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Maybe an Alamo rental car for a while? - [![](https://www.rentawreck.com/smsite/npauto_4/media/imgs/104_burbank-il-forweb.jpg) ](https://www.rentawreck.com/smsite/npauto_4/media/imgs/104_burbank-il-forweb.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2021, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8820 "2021-01-14T03:45:00Z")
I may have misinterpreted but thought it was comically ironic. Their whole Trump Library was a thing of beauty. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2021, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8821 "2021-01-14T04:14:08Z")
It was indeed very impressively done – not like anything that would have been produced by CFSG acolytes or contractors. The site is finely-crafted and the architecture depicted has a clean elegance that totally lacks the gaudiness one would expect from a thing with the “T” name on it. You did read right. The fuckup is that the nation to the south of the USA is called “The United States of Mexico”, and down south, bordering on (not encompassing) the DF, is the state of Mexico, one of those united states. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2021, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8822 "2021-01-14T05:09:04Z")
Two Individual 1 appointees in the Director of the Office of Science and Technology Policy published, without approval from anybody else in the Director’s office, “flyers” in which they said that the science shows that climate change isn’t really a big deal. Their publications have the Presidential seal and the federal government copyright on them even though they were not approved by anybody but the two of them. They have been relieved of their duties and moved back to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration until their terms end on January 20. > **[Trump officials ousted after papers which downplay climate crisis](https://www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/news/trump-climate-denial-david-legates-b1786605.html)** > > Head of the Office of Science and Technology Policy was ‘outraged’ by the breach after learning about the ‘scientific’ papers from the press ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2021, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8823 "2021-01-14T06:55:37Z")
I see a Presidential Medal of Freedom in their futures. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2021, 9:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8824 "2021-01-14T09:38:45Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > He could at least give him bus fare. You have to pay a fare when you’re _under_ the bus? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2021, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8825 "2021-01-14T12:04:44Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > > [@running\_coach](#): > > > > He could at least give him bus fare. > > You have to pay a fare when you’re _under_ the bus? - Bio-waste clean up fee. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=439) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=441)