# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 442
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2021, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8846 "2021-01-14T20:01:02Z")
> [@Skypist](#): > > 🎻 I am standing 20 feet away from my screen to try to get this in the correct perspective. Still _way_ too large. We need to get these guys working on a violin: > **[Smallest guitar, about the size of a human blood cell, illustrates new...](https://news.cornell.edu/stories/1997/07/worlds-smallest-silicon-mechanical-devices-are-made-cornell)** > > The world's smallest guitar — carved out of crystalline silicon and no larger than a single cell — has been made at Cornell University to demonstrate a new technology that could have a variety of uses in fiber optics, displays, sensors and... ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2021, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8847 "2021-01-14T20:10:46Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > I looooove that movie. Me, too! I could watch it once a week forever. Tom Wilkerson and Merrit Weaver broke my heart. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2021, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8848 "2021-01-14T20:10:50Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > _In theory_ Trump might be able to circumvent the No-Fly List by sticking to strictly VFR and small airports, keeping a low profile… but his ego would never stand for that. Is this true, even in theory? If he flies VFR, doesn’t he have to stay below 18000’ MSL? Can you do that in a big jumbo jet like he has? ETA: Okay, I see this has been ninja’d several days ago already. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2021, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8849 "2021-01-14T20:19:01Z")
Still my favorite Wilkerson role; he did _so_ much with so little screen time. It was a really riveting performance. This film was also my introduction to Tilda Swinton, whom I immediately fell in love with. Somebody needs to get her and Meryl Streep playing opposite each other, pronto. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2021, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8850 "2021-01-14T20:27:44Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Still my favorite Wilkerson role It is Tom “Wilkinson”. Like the razor blades. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2021, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8851 "2021-01-14T20:29:23Z")
🤦‍♂️ I knew that. _mea culpa_ ETA: No wait; I blame **carrps** for distracting me! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2021, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8852 "2021-01-14T20:29:59Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > I worked in Trump Tower once, in an apartment that was still under construction. > > My work generally started during the construction phase, and finished after. This was a very small job for me, it was a one bedroom pied a terre for some rich guy whose primary residence was in Italy. > > If you are working in an apartment in Trump Tower, you enter through a side door that leads to a small elevator lobby. It’s a one floor elevator that takes you down to the very large maze that is the basement of the building. There you check in, get your authorization and a temporary badge and directions on how to navigate the maze and get to the correct elevator to take you up - there are several for the building. > > Then you go to work. This was a very small job for me. When a house or large apartment is under construction there is always a bathroom for the workers. But this was a small apartment and there was no working bath, you were expected to go downstairs and use the facilities for building employees. This is not unusual if the apartment is small and it was not unexpected. > > I took a bathroom break after a few hours. > > So I headed down to the service area in the basement and _ **I was told they didn’t have a ladies room.** _ They had no bathroom facilities for women. My mind boggled. This happened in 2014, not 1980. > > I imagine, somewhere in that building there is a place that is “home base” for housekeeping but if they have a bathroom that was not revealed to me. > > They sent me to the bathroom in the public space in the building. > > Public spaces exist only because builders like Trump get other concessions in exchange for them. But they don’t want people to use them. So they look nice, on paper…but in practicality…that one is a black marble cave, hardly any lighting, with some uncomfortable tables and chairs. And in case that doesn’t dissuade you from wanting to eat lunch there, they plop in a piano player at lunchtime, VERY loud and not very good, echoing around the cavern -free Live Music! > > The ladies room was a side cave of the main cave, with a big yellow “closed for cleaning” sign blocking the entrance. I think they put the sign up during all high traffic times. > > As anyone who’s spent time in NYC knows, fast food restaurants do not have public restrooms. Drugstores, supermarkets and retail stores that are not large department stores do not have public restrooms. Sit down restaurants have restrooms _for customers only_. About the only place to find a public restroom is public library or a hotel large enough to host conferences and meetings. > > So I ended up walking all the way up 5th Ave to the freaking Waldorf Astoria. I was gone an hour and I’m glad there wasn’t any …urgency to the situation. > > Luckily, I only had to be there a few hours at a time, and after that I just made sure not to need a bathroom. > > Fuck the Trumps. I hope they don’t get bathrooms in their cells. AIUI, standard equipment is a non-enclosed toilet in the corner. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2021, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8853 "2021-01-14T20:32:59Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > It is Tom “Wilkinson”. Like the razor blades. How old are you? I haven’t seen those blades in ages. To be fair, I wasn’t really looking. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2021, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8854 "2021-01-14T20:35:14Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > How old are you? I had a birthday a couple weeks ago. Before that one, dirt was older’n me. (also, I have relatives – “Wilkerson”, valid as it may be, just sounds wrong to me) ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2021, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8855 "2021-01-14T20:37:33Z")
I hope we can make sure it’s out of service 23 hours a day, if they complain it doesn’t work we can yell at them and call them liars. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2021, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8856 "2021-01-14T20:42:39Z")
“[Donald Trump is a genius, that’s what the “J” stands for.](https://twitter.com/rexchapman/status/1349751580426448908?ref_url=https%3a%2f%2ftalkedabout.com%2fthreads%2fmob-storms-capitol.914%2fpage-26)” ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2021, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8857 "2021-01-14T20:49:56Z")
Wilkinson is a class act, and I love him in everything. My fave is [The Full Monty](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119164/). Standing in the unemployment grinding to the beat of the Muzak. Priceless. FYI (to every young’un here): > **[Wilkinson Sword](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilkinson_Sword)** > > Pages for logged out editors learn more > > > > Wilkinson Sword is a formerly British brand for razors and other personal care products sold in Europe, owned by the US company Edgewell Personal Care. The company was founded as a manufacturer of guns made in Shotley Bridge in County Durham, by Henry Nock in London in 1772. > Besides guns, the company has also produced swords, bayonets and products such as typewriters, garden shears, scissors and motorcycles. Gardening equipment is still made ... Their insignia was on the blade of my first food processor. They’re Big Time. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2021, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8858 "2021-01-14T21:03:34Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Hey, that was my idea! I’ve been saving Altoids tins for just that porpoise. I want my shot at ~~immorality~~ immortality, too! Anyway, the tin will be kept in the janitor’s closet at Trump Tower (or whatever they change the name to). Maybe Donnie will wind up being the janitor. 🙂 This reminds me of a Twilight Zone episode, in which a ruthless business tycoon makes a deal with the devil to make himself even richer. But of course the devil double-crosses him and he ends up being the janitor in his own (former) tower. Starring Donald Trump as the tycoon. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2021, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8859 "2021-01-14T21:04:49Z")
Trump reportedly wanted to crash the impeachment party. [https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/nyt-trump-had-to-be-dissuaded-from-dropping-in-on-his-own-impeachment](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/nyt-trump-had-to-be-dissuaded-from-dropping-in-on-his-own-impeachment) How did he think that was going to work? I didn’t think he was allowed in the House chamber without a special invite from Nancy. ---
**Author:** ![mistymage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mistymage/32/459_2.png) [@mistymage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mistymage)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2021, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8860 "2021-01-14T21:14:05Z")
How about a toilet/sink combo like the immigrants in cages had to use? Something like this but in stainless steel… or maybe fake gold? [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/N-kNhWsql_I/maxresdefault.jpg "Toilet with Integrated Basin | Eco Friendly Combined Toilet and Wash Basin") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-kNhWsql_I) ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2021, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8861 "2021-01-14T21:15:06Z")
> [@Shoeless](#): > > How did he think that was going to work?- I don’t think he cares about that. He just wants to be in the headlines. A confrontation with that smug bitch Pelosi at the door to the House chamber. Headlines all over the world! Take that Twitter! I can make ~~an idiot out of myself~~ news without you! ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2021, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8862 "2021-01-14T21:18:49Z")
The Pentagon has announced that the traditional Presidential Farewell Ceremony will not be held for Individual 1. > **[Pentagon Won’t Throw Traditional Farewell Ceremony for Trump](https://www.defenseone.com/ideas/2021/01/pentagon-wont-throw-traditional-farewell-ceremony-trump/171408/)** > > It’s a shame, and a missed opportunity — not despite recent events but because of them. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2021, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8863 "2021-01-14T21:19:44Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > Then, cause grifters gotta grift, one their neighborhoods graciously offered to let them use a bathroom located in a basement studio. But, we the people, the taxpayers, paid $3000 a month to keep Ivanka’s toilets from being sullied by a working man’s ass. If the market value of the basement apartment in that neighborhood actually is $3000/month then the fault is not the landlord’s, it’s the turdbuckets who won’t let the help guarding their precious selves the use of even one of their toilets for human needs. I would not want a landlord to take a loss because of spoiled brats in the White House. (The equation changes, of course, if the market rate is lower and someone was gouging the government) > [@Levolor\_the\_Blind](#): > > As an aside (from the Post story): > “Yet this solution, too, was short-lived after a Secret Service supervisor from the Trump/Kushner detail left an unpleasant mess in the Obama bathroom at some point before the fall of 2017, according to a person briefed on the event.” > I am now very curious. I, too, am a little puzzled by the “mess” left at the Obama house, but maybe I’d rather not know the details. Was an agent made physically ill by the Kushners? We’ll likely never know. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2021, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8864 "2021-01-14T21:21:40Z")
BTW, during his impeachment comments, Congressman Steve Cohen of Tennessee called him “Individual 1”. I feel vindicated. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2021, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8865 "2021-01-14T21:22:16Z")
Is anyone making sure they aren’t stealing the copper wiring out of the walls? Because they seem to be [carrying](https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1349810898454638592) out a lot of [stuff](https://twitter.com/MichaelBKelley/status/1349749395789656065). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=441) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=443)