# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 448
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8966 "2021-01-17T06:50:07Z")
He should insist on cash up front this time. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8967 "2021-01-17T07:05:45Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > WHAT THE FUCK IS HE WAITING FOR? Two weeks? ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 9:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8968 "2021-01-17T09:51:24Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Rudy says he’s going to defend Individual 1 against impeachment by proving the election was stolen. > [https://abcnews.go.com/US/giuliani-working-trumps-impeachment-defense-argue-voter-fraud/story](https://abcnews.go.com/US/giuliani-working-trumps-impeachment-defense-argue-voter-fraud/story) Hasn’t he already tried to do that 60+ times before…? Dude, at a certain point you just have to accept this isn’t working. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 9:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8969 "2021-01-17T09:59:46Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. It’s Rudy, so…yeah. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8970 "2021-01-17T14:16:58Z")
In other news, it looks like Nancy got to wear her “impeachment dress” two times, less than a year apart . > **[Did Pelosi Wear Same Dress for Both of Trump's Impeachments?](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/pelosi-dress-trump-impeachments/?fbclid=IwAR3iEim7O5RggD8kKDF1UDT4ec11YfEdphLWhCfbtwSSDgZcvpYhcAUZxEQ)** > > During Donald Trump's second impeachment, readers noticed that Nancy Pelosi appeared to be wearing the same outfit she wore during his first. Most of us spend a lot of time and money on our impeachment dresses, and we only get to wear them once. Maybe twice. Maybe will get another shot an impeaching a President 15 or 20 years later, but usually if we dust off our old impeachment dress we find it’s hopelessly out of style and we have to suck in our gut in really hard to pull up the zipper. So we buy a new one. But, thanks to Trump, Nancy got to wear her impeachment dress twice in less than a year! Go Nancy! ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8971 "2021-01-17T15:05:04Z")
[I got love for sale](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/17/rudy-giuliani-associate-john-kiriakou-trump-pardon) > [@](#): > > (former CIA agent John) Kiriakou told the Times his pursuit of a pardon came up during a meeting with Giuliani on another subject, at the Trump International Hotel in Washington last year. > > During the meeting, which reportedly “involved substantial alcohol”, Giuliani went to the bathroom. It was then, Kiriakou said, that Giuliani’s unnamed associate told him: “It’s going to cost $2m – he’s going to want two million bucks.” > > The Times [said](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/17/us/politics/trump-pardons.html) Giuliani rejected Kiriakou’s version of events and said he did not work as a pardon broker because he already represented Trump. “It’s like a conflict of interest,” he was quoted as saying, adding that though he had heard large fees were being offered for pardons, “I have enough money. I’m not starving.” Add “pardon broker” to your dictionary. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8972 "2021-01-17T15:12:51Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > He should insist on cash up front this time. That’s what good criminal lawyers do. Which gives us one more data point on Rudy’s skillz … ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8973 "2021-01-17T19:18:34Z")
Hogan Gidley says that Individual 1 has not yet chosen Rudy as his impeachment lawyer. > **[Giuliani: I’m Doing Trump’s Impeachment Defense. Trump Spox: Not So Fast](https://www.thedailybeast.com/rudy-giuliani-says-hes-doing-impeachment-defense-but-trump-spokesman-hogan-gidley-says-not-so-fast)** > > The president’s chief enabler said he’d lead the latest impeachment defense, but Trump’s spokesman says no team has been assigned yet. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8974 "2021-01-17T19:20:08Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Trump’s spokesman says no team has been assigned yet Because the pool of lawyers that he hasn’t pissed off has shrunk dramatically. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8975 "2021-01-17T19:26:46Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > Hasn’t he already tried to do that 60+ times before…? > > Dude, at a certain point you just have to accept this isn’t working. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. We’re talking “Rudy” here. > [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > Because the pool of lawyers that he hasn’t pissed off has shrunk dramatically. Perhaps change to, “…he hasn’t **stiffed for payment** has shrunk dramatically.” ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8976 "2021-01-17T19:34:52Z")
> [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > Because the pool of lawyers that he hasn’t pissed off has shrunk dramatically. And the pool of competent lawyers willing to work for him is pretty much zero. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8977 "2021-01-17T19:35:44Z")
Maybe somebody should tell Trump that he can act as his own lawyer. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8978 "2021-01-17T19:45:09Z")
> [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > Maybe somebody should tell Trump that he can act as his own lawyer. This would be an awesome opportunity for an outgoing aide to fuck with him. “Mr. President, I really think that the biggest reason that none of your lawsuits against the election have worked is that the lawyers just aren’t good enough at making the argument. I really think that you would benefit greatly from making the case yourself. No-one else knows or understands the issues as well as you do, and no-one commands the same amount of respect. If you were to take over the case, you could make the best possible argument in front of Congress, and I’ll bet that you would be found “not guilty” in the impeachment trial, and you might even convince them to overturn the election results.” Can you imagine the comedy that would result if Trump fronted up at the Senate trial? ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8979 "2021-01-17T19:55:24Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > And the pool of competent lawyers willing to work for him is pretty much zero. Whaddaya mean? I’m not sure that they’re officially on the Trump legal team, but besides the inimitable Rudy (forever hero and designated patron of the Four Seasons Total Landscaping company) I’m sure Trump could get Sidney Powell on board. Sidney’s expertise revolves around having solid evidence that voting machines switched “millions of ballots” from Trump to Biden and there was election fraud of “Biblical” proportions. And then there’s Lin Wood, who believes Mike Pence should be executed, that Chief Justice John Roberts runs a pedophile sex ring, and that the world is in the control of a super-sekret “Lizard Squad”. These are obviously extraordinary legal minds – all three of them – of the kind that you won’t find just anywhere. And Trump can have them all, just by asking. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8980 "2021-01-17T19:57:57Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > there was election fraud of “Biblical” proportions. The election of King Herod in particular is known to have been due to faults with Dominion voting machines. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8981 "2021-01-17T20:17:55Z")
I’m hoping the Republican Party - through hell or high water - somehow manage to get Lin Wood on their team to run for President for 2024. At least ‘President Wood’ certainly sounds innocuous enough, no? Give the party a little pizzazz, liven it up a bit. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8982 "2021-01-17T20:51:32Z")
No thank you. We had quite enough of _that guy could NEVER get elected president_ in 2016 ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8983 "2021-01-17T20:58:40Z")
God how I wish that would happen. It would be the best reality show in the history of TV. ---
**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8984 "2021-01-18T01:00:37Z")
He who liveth by reality TV… ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/8985 "2021-01-18T05:58:34Z")
Two more trumpy parody songs I just came across on U-toob. (There are plenty more out there too). [After-Trump Delight](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SOlt8RAYoU). [Mar-a-Lago-Ville](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iryL4n07790). (For you young-uns, those are parodies of [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wu1UXCdyNo0) and [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ue2-ZVxpVjc).) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=447) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=449)