# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9306 "2021-01-26T01:43:48Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Individual 1 has opened “The Office of the Former President” to handle his correspondence and activites.

“Office of the Cheeto Faced Shit Gibbon”

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9307 "2021-01-26T01:48:24Z")

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Hmmm…

> **[Sen. Patrick Leahy To Preside Over Trump's Senate Impeachment Trial](https://www.npr.org/2021/01/25/960389715/sen-patrick-leahy-to-preside-over-trumps-senate-impeachment-trial)**
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> Chief Justice John Roberts will not take on the role for the trial that begins the week of Feb. 8, a source says. A chief justice presides only when a sitting president is on trial.

Here’s the story I found - apparently Roberts let it be known ( love that passive voice! ) that he had no interest in presiding over the trial and felt no obligation since Trump was no longer President.

But the article pissed me off…it implies that Roberts’s refusal has something to do with the way “the left” treated him on social media during the last impeachment.

What the Fuck, NPR? You’re usually smarter than this. Have you forgotten how the QANON #TrumpArmy trolls went after Roberts for declining to gear the bogus election fraud cases? How they implied he was a Satanic pedophile?

The senators and congressmen aren’t just bending to Trump’s will because he’s threatening to run alt-right candidates to primary them. They’re scared for their safety, of being followed and harassed everywhere they go, of threats made to their families. And I think Roberts is, too.

While using the power of the ballot box to bend politicians to your will is fair game, I guess, I’m not sure anyone foresaw someone like Trump wielding that power so blatantly and publicly. It’s not a good time to be a moderate Republican, and the Republicans that think they still can be moderate Republicans while acquiescing to Trump haven’t learned the lesson they need to learn, which is that it’s not going to stop.

His demands are just going to get worse and worse, until at some point they’re just…”penced”, I guess. They’ll hit that wall where they just can’t do it anymore and the whole degrading Stockholm Syndrome exercise will have been for naught and they’ll end up with the Trump Army chasing them around a homemade gallows anyway.

Really, any Republican that wants to hold onto any scrap of mainstream respectability needs to nip this in the bud. They all just need to close their eyes, hold hands and jump, letting the chips fall where they may.

No matter how bad it is, it’ll be a little less bad if they act together, and a lot less bad if they act now. But they won’t see that, of course.

BTW, I found it interesting that the suit Dominion filed against Guiliani was in DC. It’s probably the one place they stand a chance of getting a jury without a MAGAnut on it.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9308 "2021-01-26T02:42:56Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Pat Leahy. the Senate President pro tem, will preside over the impeachment trial instead of the Chief Justice, because the accused is no longer President. I wonder if Leahy will vote, as well.

While _I_ wonder if the MAGAts will claim that any putative conviction is rendered invalid because Roberts isn’t presiding.

Hahahahahahaha. j/k. I don’t wonder that at all.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9309 "2021-01-26T03:28:13Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Individual 1 has opened “The Office of the Former President” to handle his correspondence and activites.

But trumpy himself is still banned from Twitter, right?

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9310 "2021-01-26T03:33:26Z")

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Apparently, in the hallowed halls in Ottawa, the MPs petitioned JT’s government to ~~tell the Proud Boys to stand back and stand by~~ [designate the Proud Boys a Terrorist Organization](https://twitter.com/rexchapman/status/1353885180537278464).

There was no dissent.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9311 "2021-01-26T03:40:19Z")

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> [@74westy](#):
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> Can’t do anything while he’s president and can’t do anything after he’s president. Should have handled it before he ran.

That’s quite a catch, Yossarian.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9312 "2021-01-26T03:43:35Z")

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Sad thing is, he once did have a good legal mind, by what I’ve read.

There’s a reason law firms push you out of the partnership around 65 - 70.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9313 "2021-01-26T04:15:58Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> If you’re disbarred, you can’t represent someone else, but can you still represent yourself?

Can’t anyone represent oneself? And if he isn’t disbarred (by the time this case comes up), then that old adage applies about a lawyer who would defend himself . . .

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9314 "2021-01-26T04:23:46Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> But trumpy himself is still banned from Twitter, right?

Aha! I see where this is going. Trump hisself is banned from Twitter, but his silly “Office” is a separate entity that will have its own twitter account. So all of Trump’s nastiness can eminate from there now. Will Twitter have the gumption to ban that account too?

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9315 "2021-01-26T04:34:42Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Individual 1 has opened “The Office of the Former President”

I think that now, post-Jan 20, we can refer to him as “Individual -1” (as in “minus one” or “negative one”.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9316 "2021-01-26T04:55:16Z")

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You mean I have to start using “1” instead of Our National Embarrassment?

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**Author:** ![TheGunIsMightierThanThePen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thegunismightierthanthepen/32/2981_2.png) [@TheGunIsMightierThanThePen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheGunIsMightierThanThePen)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9317 "2021-01-26T04:59:41Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> Aha! I see where this is going. Trump hisself is banned from Twitter, but his silly “Office” is a separate entity that will have its own twitter account. So all of Trump’s nastiness can eminate from there now. Will Twitter have the gumption to ban that account too?

Well, since this account doesn’t have the weight of Presidential authority behind it (not like there was any of that during the past four years), it shouldn’t be treated any differently than any other normal user.

Which means ideally, Twitter should have a heap of AI code monitoring this new account 24/7 like the Eye of Sauron, ready to lay down the banhammer if the account posts anything half as incendiary as Trump did.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9318 "2021-01-26T14:29:27Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> all while providing priceless entertainment!

Right, to the folks at the mall’s food court, until the Marshalls come and drag him off to face the judge.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9319 "2021-01-26T14:33:56Z")

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> [@needscoffee](#):
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> I think that now, post-Jan 20, we can refer to him as “Individual -1” (as in “minus one” or “negative one”.

I refer to him as ‘Disgraced ex-President Trump’…

“How are you doing?”  
“Fantastic, now that Disgraced ex-President Trump is out of the White House!”

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9320 "2021-01-26T17:18:18Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> From that article:
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> > “He very much feels that a lot of people are working to downgrade his legacy out of hatred for him,” one source told The Daily Beast.  
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> Well, Donnie finally got something right!

So his legacy is something very fragile, something likely to perish at the slightest touch… like a snowflake.

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**Author:** ![John\_Bredin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@John\_Bredin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Bredin)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9321 "2021-01-26T18:55:13Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> His use of the Great Seal is probably illegal.

Maybe he can use [this one.](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49116539) 😄

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9322 "2021-01-26T19:48:43Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> > [@wolfpup](#):
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> > all while providing priceless entertainment!
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> Right, to the folks at the mall’s food court, until the Marshalls come and drag him off to face the judge.

These typo-Rudy jokes seem to have becomes Staples to mall him with, but are they on Target?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9323 "2021-01-26T19:53:31Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> > [@k9bfriender](#):
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> > > [@wolfpup](#):
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> > > all while providing priceless entertainment!
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> > Right, to the folks at the mall’s food court, until the Marshalls come and drag him off to face the judge.
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> These typo-Rudy jokes seem to have becomes Staples to mall him with, but are they on Target? -

He’s down to his last Penny, how will he Ward off the legal charges?

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9324 "2021-01-26T20:11:05Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> He’s down to his last Penny, how will he Ward off the legal charges?

Rudy is gonna need to find the Best Buy in lawyers, the ones with the Lowe’s costs. Money doesn’t grow on Dollar Trees!

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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9325 "2021-01-26T20:13:37Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> The [Cheeto-Faced ShitGibbon is apoplectic](https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-furiously-watching-fauci-biden-era-interviews-report-2021-1) at seeing Dr. Fauci say that it is a relief to be working for Joe the President and saying bad things about CFSG that CFSG is unable to counter with angry tweets. I suspect that he is becoming red-faced. The RFSG.

Great, but isn’t it time credible publications stopped covering Trump’s every tantrum as if it was actual news?

Say it with me: He’s not important enough anymore.

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