# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 469
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2021, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9386 "2021-01-29T19:29:44Z")
Lin Wood says the Georgia state bar has told him that he has to get a mental health evaluation if he wants to keep his license to practice law. > **[Lin Wood Says He Must Take Mental Exam to Keep Law License](https://www.thedailybeast.com/lin-wood-says-he-must-take-mental-exam-to-keep-law-license)** > > But the pro-Trump lawyer hasn’t decided whether to fight the demand. ---
**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2021, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9387 "2021-01-29T19:55:38Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > BTW, four of the five impeachment lawyers are from South Carolina. I wonder if they were recommended by Lindsey Graham. Oh hell, I wouldn’t be surprised if ol’ Lindsey is paying them! ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2021, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9388 "2021-01-29T20:04:30Z")
> [@romansperson](#): > > Oh hell, I wouldn’t be surprised if ol’ Lindsey is paying them! Goodness knows Trump won’t. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2021, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9389 "2021-01-29T20:05:04Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > And I would bet that after Nothing happens on March 4—the last, best hope of his remaining True Believers—his fandom will shrink faster than a brain riddled with dementia. When nothing happens on March 4, this will be PROOF POSITIVE for the insane followers that the conspiracy theory is real. I mean, the conspiracy stopped the glorious leader from taking over on March 4!!! What more proof do you need, sheeple?! They will simply move on to the next date, or nutty theory. The complete and utter failure of their predictions will not shake a belief that has no basis in reality in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2021, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9390 "2021-01-29T20:39:57Z")
Yep. Trump Delusion is the new religion. Think about it. Days of reckoning, days of apocalypse and they even give their money to a “god” who will never, ever do anything for them in return. 😁 ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2021, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9391 "2021-01-29T21:22:05Z")
Sigh. The trump clusterfuck will never be over. The administration, yes, the CF, no. When this thread reaches 10K, the mods can change the name to Part Trois, Part Quatre, Part Cinq… all the way to Part Cent. Or until he dies, whichever comes first. Let’s face it, what else does he have to do with his time. You can only play so much golf. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2021, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9392 "2021-01-29T21:35:14Z")
> **[Republicans who cheered Trump's executive orders now grumble about 'record...](https://www.yahoo.com/news/republicans-who-cheered-trumps-executive-orders-now-grumble-about-record-number-from-biden-212339699.html)** > > Over the past week, a growing number of Republicans began sounding the alarm about the number and content of executive orders being issued by President Joe Biden. > Biden has in fact been on a record-setting pace for executive orders, signing more than 40 of them in his first week in office. Most, however, were written to overturn those of his predecessor, Donald Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2021, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9393 "2021-01-29T21:39:02Z")
I’ve been saying for years that the Republicans had better stop trying to govern by executive order because eventually the Democrats would start doing the same. And here it is. And the Republican snowflakes are having a meltdown over it. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2021, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9394 "2021-01-29T21:44:51Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Or until he dies, whichever comes first. There’s still all of the spawn to complain about. ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9395 "2021-01-30T06:47:53Z")
Gotta say, if there’s one bright light on the whole ‘clusterfuck’ of the previous 4 years, it’s all the Bernie Sanders’ memes floating around the interwebs since the inauguration. How fucking normal and nice is that?? ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 10:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9396 "2021-01-30T10:04:12Z")
[![](https://i.imgur.com/cxobO3o.jpg) ](https://i.imgur.com/cxobO3o.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![SwissMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@SwissMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SwissMan)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9397 "2021-01-30T14:08:21Z")
Joe is doing well enough with the memes of his aviator glasses. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9398 "2021-01-30T15:09:52Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > And I would bet that after Nothing happens on March 4—the last, best hope of his remaining True Believers—his fandom will shrink faster than a brain riddled with dementia. [The Arizona Legislature has introduced a bill to give the legislature](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/arizona-gop-lawmaker-introduces-bill-give-legislature-power-toss-out-n1256097) - not the voters! - the power to pick electors. So the delusion isn’t going away. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9399 "2021-01-30T15:41:46Z")
> [@SwissMan](#): > > Joe is doing well enough with the memes of his aviator glasses. [![](https://i.imgur.com/8VyynYK.jpg) ](https://i.imgur.com/8VyynYK.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9400 "2021-01-30T17:04:05Z")
I’ve been worrying about this ever since I saw it yesterday. All GOP states could pass something like this and goodbye last shreds of democracy. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9401 "2021-01-30T19:42:17Z")
If democracy holds, it would never get past the first court challenge. If it did, well, Civil War it be. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9402 "2021-01-30T19:46:51Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > [The Arizona Legislature has introduced a bill to give the legislature](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/arizona-gop-lawmaker-introduces-bill-give-legislature-power-toss-out-n1256097) - not the voters! - the power to pick electors. Why not cut through all the bullshit and just declare that all electors must be Republican or they don’t count? What, too obvious? ---
**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9403 "2021-01-30T21:05:27Z")
Someone in my twitter feed pointed out this pearl from the Arizona bill: > ANY PARTY TO AN ELECTION CONTEST MAY REQUEST A JURY TRIAL, WHICH SHALL BE GRANTED AND TRIED AS OTHER JURY TRIALS IN A CIVIL ACTION, EXCEPT THAT THE STATUTORY PROVISIONS FOR ELECTION CONTESTS PREVAIL OVER ANY CONFLICTING RULES OF PROCEDURE FOR JURY TRIALS. IN AN ELECTION CONTEST JURY TRIAL, A COURT MAY NOT GRANT A MOTION TO DISMISS OR A MOTION FOR SUMMARY JUDGMENT THAT WOULD RESULT IN DISMISSAL UNTIL AFTER THE JURY HAS ISSUED ITS VERDICT. Yeah, let’s decide elections by jury trials and take away judges’ power to dismiss a challenge as frivolous. That’s seems like it couldn’t cause any issues … ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9404 "2021-01-30T21:28:46Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > If democracy holds, it would never get past the first court challenge. You are, I’m pretty sure, completely wrong here. The constitution embodies the power to select electors with the state legislature. Just because all states currently use the popular vote to allocate them doesn’t mean they can’t change that with a new law. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9405 "2021-01-30T21:37:47Z")
In fact, at first many states had the legislature select electors. (Senators were also selected by the legislature, not by popular vote.) It wasn’t until the early 1800s that most states moved to the popular vote, and South Carolina held out until the Civil War. The founding fathers didn’t have that much faith in the electorate. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=468) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=470)