# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ziberian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/919ad9/32.png) [@Ziberian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ziberian)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2021, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9566 "2021-02-04T21:24:55Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> That reminds me of why my kids can’t read cursive

I wouldn’t worry about it. If they ever actually need to read cursive, they’ll catch on quickly. When I first started reading court documents from the early 1800s, (which, as I’m sure you know, used some different conventions that our current cursive), I was utterly lost and confused, but after some practice I can read them (almost) effortlessly. I suspect today’s kids will be the same if they ever need to read our documents.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2021, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9567 "2021-02-04T21:38:27Z")

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Individual l1 has resigned from SAG-AFTRA, and of course he had to be a whiny brat about it.  
[https://scontent.fmcc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/146459258\_10226184710905291\_926977723997476874\_n.jpg?\_nc\_cat=106&ccb=2&\_nc\_sid=8bfeb9&\_nc\_ohc=TZzDVA9In18AX9lD4wN&\_nc\_ht=scontent.fmcc1-1.fna&oh=3384c6b9a8dbcb1ce0fc2de932d1e89f&oe=6041D525](https://scontent.fmcc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/146459258_10226184710905291_926977723997476874_n.jpg?_nc_cat=106&ccb=2&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=TZzDVA9In18AX9lD4wN&_nc_ht=scontent.fmcc1-1.fna&oh=3384c6b9a8dbcb1ce0fc2de932d1e89f&oe=6041D525)

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2021, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9568 "2021-02-04T21:40:11Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> And in what world does a P, a G and a Q look alike?

Put those three letters, in caps, together in the right order and you get the updated abbreviation for the current Republican Party.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2021, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9569 "2021-02-04T21:41:38Z")

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“RepubliQan”, eschereal. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2021, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9570 "2021-02-04T21:43:07Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> > [@Akaj](#):
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> > Yahoo News may not be Reuters, but they’re not you or me cruising the web with nothing better to do, either.
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> To be fair, Yahoo is simply repeating a Huff Post article there.

True enough, but someone at Yahoo had to approve reposting it. And someone at HuffPo had to approve it in the first place. And they’re both making it more newsworthy by doing so.

Those someones and the someones they report to need to stop. Is there a demand for “news” of this sort? Sure, but let Newsmax and OANN fill it. Eric Trump’s opinions have never been newsworthy and now they’re utterly irrelevant.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2021, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9571 "2021-02-04T21:50:52Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Big fucking deal. What the hell does trump care if there’s “strong adverse inference”? Assuming he has any idea what that means? That kind of empty scary-lawyer-talk has never fazed him.

IANAL, but I’m guessing that the point of that wording is not to scare Trump, but rather to strengthen further the rhetorical case of the prosecution.

“We requested Mr. Trump to testify in person, we warned him that his refusing to testify would be detrimental to his credibility as a defendant, and nonetheless he refused to testify, so obviously the lying asshole knows he doesn’t have a leg to stand on”, or whatever that is in lawyerspeak.

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**Author:** ![slumtrimpet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@slumtrimpet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slumtrimpet)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2021, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9572 "2021-02-04T22:09:27Z")

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Trump’s lawyer’s response:

> <https://twitter.com/JasonMillerinDC/status/1357428710849343488?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1357428710849343488%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Fus-news%2Flive%2F2021%2Ffeb%2F04%2Fjoe-biden-donald-trump-impeachment-covid-coronavirus-liz-cheney-marjorie-taylor-greene-live-updates>

Is it just me or does he sound like a complete douche bag?

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2021, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9573 "2021-02-04T22:09:28Z")

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The letter reflects all the maturity of a six-year-old throwing a tantrum, so we know he wrote it himself. Or at least, dictated it himself, and had someone else actually spell the words.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2021, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9574 "2021-02-04T22:24:15Z")

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You’re absolutely correct. But again: so what? So what if he doesn’t have a leg to stand on? Everybody already knows this.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2021, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9575 "2021-02-04T22:26:21Z")

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> [@slumtrimpet](#):
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> Is it just me or does he sound like a complete douche bag?

He’s representing Trump. It is a job requirement.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2021, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9576 "2021-02-04T22:37:35Z")

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> [@slumtrimpet](#):
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> Is it just me or does he sound like a complete douche bag?

I’ll go with douche bag. Also, the letter totally doesn’t say anything. It can be roughly translated as “You’re a big poopy-pants, so fuck you, and the horse you rode in on”. Why did he even write it? The only possible explanation is that it was written on the explicit direction of an orange toddler.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2021, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9577 "2021-02-04T22:41:18Z")

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Eric Trump says we want to “tar and feather” his dad.

Now, in the 5+ years that Trump’s been destroying the country and pissing me off, I’ve put a great amount of thought into the methodologies we could use to punish Donald Trump, yet tarring and feathering never occurred to me.

And now that it has, I must say, I like it. Paint hot tar on his fat greasy body and roll him in feathers. Hmmmm …_ **Thanks Eric!** _

Yeah, I don’t want Trump to keep getting oxygen, either… but old habits die hard. I’m pretty sure it’ll fade away on its own in a month or so.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2021, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9578 "2021-02-04T22:51:40Z")

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I wonder if Eric can explain why there is currently so much seething purposeless hate spewing out of “the most beloved political figure in US history”.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2021, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9579 "2021-02-04T23:15:18Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> Eric Trump says we want to “tar and feather” his dad.

Good thing he does not realize what we would like to do to Eric. And Junior. And Javanka. And, the list goes on.

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**Author:** ![slumtrimpet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@slumtrimpet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slumtrimpet)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2021, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9580 "2021-02-04T23:17:43Z")

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I have to admit; I’m looking forward to the Senate trial.  
My only regret is that I live in rural Canada and our internet is absolute shit so streaming C-Span live is going to be immensely frustrating.  
And I will be screaming invectives at my computer when the dipshit Republicans vote to acquit.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2021, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9581 "2021-02-04T23:22:47Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> Eric Trump says we want to “tar and feather” his dad.

> [@eschereal](#):
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> Good thing he does not realize what we would like to do to Eric.

Sorry, Eric, you’re hardly worth the trouble…  
And do you know what tar’s going for these days? I’m not paying almost $300 for a barrel.

Not to mention the bother, especially the chicken-plucking…

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2021, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9582 "2021-02-04T23:48:03Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> Not to mention the bother, especially the chicken-plucking…

Well, and the feathers can be used to make proper pillows. As they say, keep on pflucking that chicken.

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**Author:** ![mistymage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mistymage/32/459_2.png) [@mistymage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mistymage)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2021, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9583 "2021-02-05T02:26:42Z")

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So Trump pleads the 5th. " To “plead the Fifth” means you have the right not to answer police questions both while in custody or in court. The right against self-incrimination is spelled out in the [Fifth Amendment](https://www.findlaw.com/criminal/criminal-rights/u-s-constitution-fifth-amendment.html) to the U.S. Constitution and also extends to state and local jurisdictions. When someone exercises this right, we often say that they “plead the Fifth.”"  
[Fifth Amendment Right Against Self-Incrimination - FindLaw](https://www.findlaw.com/criminal/criminal-rights/fifth-amendment-right-against-self-incrimination.html#:~:text=To%20%22plead%20the%20Fifth%22%20means,to%20state%20and%20local%20jurisdictions).

So… what then? Is there any recourse or does his pleading that mean lawyers get to fine tune and “spit roast” him" in other venues or what?

Grrr. NAs had much clearer courses of action. We were “savages”.

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**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2021, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9584 "2021-02-05T03:41:54Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> The letter reflects all the maturity of a six-year-old throwing a tantrum, so we know he wrote it himself. Or at least, dictated it himself, and had someone else actually spell the words.

You do have to admit he’s excellent at flouncing, though. Can’t you just see the petticoats flying?

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2021, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9585 "2021-02-05T03:49:27Z")

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> [@mistymage](#):
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> Grrr. NAs had much clearer courses of action.

If only the stakes were that, uh …

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