# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\
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Criminal Gish Gallop.

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> We have to do it in 20 days, so that it ends on March 4st. -

Fourst?

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Oh no. This is how these conspiracy theories get started, isn’t it?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
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> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#):
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> Oh no. This is how these conspiracy theories get started, isn’t it? -

Conspiracy theorists can’t see the fourst for the tres.

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You are a bad man and I love you. You always come through when I through out a straight line.

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Now watch this ~~thread~~ topic cinque into oblivion.

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This nonsense must six _(fr.)_ immediately!

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**Author:** ![Mr.Duality](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.duality/32/4098_2.png) [@Mr.Duality](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Duality)\
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I just tried to find out how many Catholic saints there are. Couldn’t find a good answer. It could be 8,050 or it could be over 10,000.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
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Gee… can a new thread go 10K posts just on Catholic saints…? I think not.

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Oh, we’ve barely scratched the surface of Tangents, Holy And Otherwise…

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We could start with [St. Isidore.](https://www.franciscanmedia.org/saint-of-the-day/saint-isidore-of-seville)

> An amazingly learned man, he was sometimes called “The Schoolmaster of the Middle Ages” because the encyclopedia he wrote was used as a textbook for nine centuries. He required seminaries to be built in every diocese, wrote a Rule for religious orders, and founded schools that taught every branch of learning. Isidore wrote numerous books, including a dictionary, an encyclopedia, a history of Goths, and a history of the world—beginning with creation! He completed the Mozarabic liturgy, which is still in use in Toledo, Spain. **For all these reasons, Isidore has been suggested as patron of the Internet.**

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Who is the patron saint of cat videos? _They’re_ the patron saint of the Internet.

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Who is the patron saint of cat videos? _They’re_ the patron saint of the Internet. -

Wouldn’t that be part of St. Francis’ duties?

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Whoever Bastet was morphed into.

> **[The Gayer-Anderson Cat](https://www.worldhistory.org/image/5342/the-gayer-anderson-cat/)**
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> This hollow cast bronze statue depicts a seated cat. The cat wears golden earrings and nose-ring. She also wears a silver wedjat (Eye of Horus) pectoral. Around 600 BCE. Possibly from Saqqara, Egypt...

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[Saint Gertrude of Nivelles?](https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/93339/saint-gertrude-nivelles-patron-saint-cats-more-or-less#:~:text=You%20might%20think%20of%20March,Nivelles%2C%20patron%20saint%20of%20cats.)

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**Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9722 "2021-02-12T17:38:34Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Wouldn’t that be part of St. Francis’ duties?

St. Francis was indiscriminately fond of ALL animals.

But we have more specific saints …

> **[Saint Gertrude of Nivelles: The Patron Saint of Cats (More or Less)](https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/93339/saint-gertrude-nivelles-patron-saint-cats-more-or-less)**
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> Patrick isn't the only saint celebrated on March 17.

But much better and more worthwhile is Saint Roch:

> **[St. Roch, The Patron Saint of Dogs](https://dogs-in-history.blogspot.com/2017/02/st-roch-patron-saint-of-dogs.html)**
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> Learn about St Roch and the dog who saved his life, inspiring him to become the Patron Saint of Dogs.

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No, for that you have to go for the feast day of [Saint Lucia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Lucy%27s_Day#Celebration) when all good Norwegians risk lighting their daughter’s hair on fire with a crown of lit candles.

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> In fact I never heard of Saint trading cards until just now. My parents probably suppressed knowledge of them because they didn’t want us chewing bubblegum

Ha, Not trading cards. **Holy** cards. But we’d trade them among ourselves so they were treated as trading cards in a way. They were handed out for special occasions or as a prize for doing something special. But you could also buy them. There was a tiny shop about a half mile from my school/church (the Madonna shop?) where you could buy them.

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This reminds me I need to pick up a St. Agatha card for my office.

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> But much better and more worthwhile is Saint Roch:
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> > [@](#):
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> > St. Roch, The Patron Saint of Dogs

Not [Bernard](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_of_Menthon)?

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