# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2021, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9807 "2021-02-13T18:38:15Z")

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See? @eschereal circled the discussion back around to one of the main fuckers in the clusterfuck. Well played, sir!

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2021, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9808 "2021-02-13T19:27:46Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> Yanno, I’m getting the impression we’re just padding, now.

Padding little? Or padding ton?

…

(Just got both those movies for my birthday… Paddington 2 is one of the best films I’ve seen. And that’s coming from someone who’s seen a _ton_ of classics)

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2021, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9809 "2021-02-13T19:44:20Z")

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Cecilia, great song by Simon and Garfunkel. Very catchy.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2021, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9810 "2021-02-13T19:58:19Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> Padding little? Or padding ton?

Mornington Crescent, duh.

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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2021, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9811 "2021-02-13T20:19:10Z")

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> [@rocking\_chair](#):
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> Cecilia, great song by Simon and Garfunkel. Very catchy.

Yes, definitely!

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2021, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9812 "2021-02-13T20:19:49Z")

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I got up to wash my face  
When I come back to bed someone’s taken my place

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2021, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9813 "2021-02-13T20:27:06Z")

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Oh Cecilia, I’m down on my knees, begging you,please…

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2021, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9814 "2021-02-13T20:29:57Z")

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> [@rocking\_chair](#):
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> Cecilia, great song by Simon and Garfunkel. Very catchy.

Yes, but it has a lot of competition on the fantastic album that it comes from, including the title song “Bridge over Troubled Water”, plus “The Boxer”, “The Only Living Boy in New York”, and others. Very nostalgic to us boomers!

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2021, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9815 "2021-02-13T20:43:22Z")

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On the topic of [shitstain’s ongoing clusterfuck](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/postmaster-general-s-new-plan-could-include-slower-mail-postage-n1257784),

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> U.S. Postmaster General [Louis DeJoy](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/postmaster-general-dejoy-field-tough-questions-house-mail-delays-n1237830)is set to implement a new strategic plan that includes higher postage rates and the elimination of first-class tier of mail, two sources familiar with the move told to NBC News on Friday.
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> The plan to eliminate first-class mail, which includes letters, magazines, catalogs, among others, would slow down mail that typically arrives within two days and make it more costly to deliver for both consumers and businesses.

apparently, the post office is evil and must die

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2021, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9816 "2021-02-13T20:46:38Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> Mornington Crescent, duh.

Oh, man, someone could start a game of Mornington Crescent, but only if we needed to get to 10k by midnight…

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**Author:** ![tripthicket](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripthicket/32/297_2.png) [@tripthicket](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tripthicket)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2021, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9817 "2021-02-13T21:35:51Z")

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It’s fairly obvious that DeJoy has been up to quite a bit of fuckery since he took the reins. So…why is he still not fired like a dog?

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2021, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9818 "2021-02-13T21:55:24Z")

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> [@tripthicket](#):
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> So…why is he still not fired like a dog?

Dejoy was installed by the USPS board of governors, who have control over who shall be the Postmaster General. He can only be removed by the board of governors. Barack Obama was to appoint four members to the board, but, naturally Mitchovitch Musconnelin held up those appointments until the positions could be filled by the Cheeto-Faced Extraterrestrial-Ferret-Wearing ShitGibbon.

Hence, the unfucking of the Post Office is a thing that is not to be imminent. The Rs have been working hard for more than a decade and a half to turn it into a smoking ruin, and they are unlikely to give back any of their hard-earned ground.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2021, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9819 "2021-02-13T23:11:39Z")

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I saw an article a few days ago suggesting that there may yet be some hope for the Post Office.

First, DeJoy’s term is just two years, so that at least puts some limit on his tenure. It’s not like he has a ten-year term like the Chairman of the Fed does.

Second, the board of governors has a couple of vacancies that Biden can fill. And there are a couple of Democrats that Trump appointed who, although they are conservative leaning, could possibly be persuaded to dump DeJoy. There are a couple others whose terms have expired but they are still there for lack of replacement. So Biden could replace those. (Not clear if those are the same two “vacancies” already mentioned.)

And if DeJoy fucks up enough (as he seems to have every intention of doing), maybe there will be enough public pressure, or pressure from Congress, to dump him.

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**Post date:** [February 14, 2021, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9820 "2021-02-14T00:09:00Z")

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So, security was the reason a whole bunch of Voice of America staffers did not receive visas, right? right?

> **[Trump Official Cited Security To Kill Visas For VOA Staffers. Emails Say...](https://www.npr.org/2021/02/11/966386113/trump-official-cited-security-to-kill-visas-for-voa-staffers-emails-say-otherwis)**
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> Under Trump, the agency over the Voice of America stopped granting requests for visa extensions for foreign journalists to reserve jobs for Americans. The agency had cited security concerns.

`//i\\`

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2021, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9821 "2021-02-14T00:40:17Z")

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Trump acquitted. There is no justice. America is done.

[https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-acquitted-denounced-in-historic-impeachment-trial/ar-BB1dDYdy?li=BBnb7Kz](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-acquitted-denounced-in-historic-impeachment-trial/ar-BB1dDYdy?li=BBnb7Kz)

Republicans are evil.

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**Post date:** [February 14, 2021, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9822 "2021-02-14T00:43:51Z")

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> [@rocking\_chair](#):
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> i would read lives of saints as i kid. better than fairy tales (unless you were reading irish fairy tales), most ending with some sort of “they died horribly” death.

While tidying up the closets a few months ago, I found the stack of children’s books I had been given about the saints. Two of them were presented as bedtime stories, each ending with a phrase like “Now, child, go to sleep!” The stories were presented in an overly dramatic fashion too; one of them went into great detail about the saint-to-be weeping for Jesus as the flames consumed her tiny body.

> [@eschereal](#):
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> Rafael the Unshaven

_brilliant!!_

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**Post date:** [February 14, 2021, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9823 "2021-02-14T00:45:34Z")

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Trump was acquitted and McConnell continues to sicken . . . There is nothing new under the sun.

> **[Republican Senate leader, who voted to acquit, says Trump 'morally...](https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/mcconnell-trump-impeachment-acquit-morally-responsible-jan-6-attack-1.5913730)**
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> U.S. Senate minority leader Mitch McConnell excoriated Donald Trump on Saturday for being "morally responsible" for the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol, but said he voted to acquit him at the impeachment trial because he believes the Senate had no...

[Clearly angry, the Senate’s longest-serving Republican leader said Trump’s actions surrounding the attack on Congress were “a disgraceful, disgraceful dereliction of duty.” He even noted that though Trump is now out of office, he remains subject to the country’s criminal and civil laws. “He didn’t get away with anything yet,” McConnell said.](https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/mcconnell-trump-impeachment-acquit-morally-responsible-jan-6-attack-1.5913730)

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2021, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9824 "2021-02-14T00:49:20Z")

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> [@KarlGauss](#):
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> Trump was acquitted and McConnell continues to sicken . . . There is nothing new under the sun.
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> [Republican Senate leader, who voted to acquit, says Trump 'morally responsible' for Capitol attack | CBC News](https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/mcconnell-trump-impeachment-acquit-morally-responsible-jan-6-attack-1.5913730)
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> [Clearly angry, the Senate’s longest-serving Republican leader said Trump’s actions surrounding the attack on Congress were “a disgraceful, disgraceful dereliction of duty.” He even noted that though Trump is now out of office, he remains subject to the country’s criminaI and civil laws. “He didn’t get away with anything yet,” McConnell said.](https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/mcconnell-trump-impeachment-acquit-morally-responsible-jan-6-attack-1.5913730)

If he appears on the GOP ticket in 2024, he sure as fuck did.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2021, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9825 "2021-02-14T01:04:47Z")

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> [@KarlGauss](#):
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> Trump was acquitted and McConnell continues to sicken . . . There is nothing new under the sun.
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> [Republican Senate leader, who voted to acquit, says Trump 'morally responsible' for Capitol attack | CBC News](https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/mcconnell-trump-impeachment-acquit-morally-responsible-jan-6-attack-1.5913730)
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> [Clearly angry, the Senate’s longest-serving Republican leader said Trump’s actions surrounding the attack on Congress were “a disgraceful, disgraceful dereliction of duty.” He even noted that though Trump is now out of office, he remains subject to the country’s criminal and civil laws. **“He didn’t get away with anything yet,”** McConnell said.](https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/mcconnell-trump-impeachment-acquit-morally-responsible-jan-6-attack-1.5913730) -

I’m sure McConnell will continue aiding letting him get away with it.

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**Post date:** [February 14, 2021, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/9826 "2021-02-14T01:20:57Z")

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I’m pretty sure Trump is still walking around while 5 people who were when 6 January began are now no longer able to do so. That’s over a month now that Trump has gotten away with it.

And you, Mitch, could have held him accountable but you didn’t. So now he’s getting away with it for even longer.

Why??? What the fuck is it that makes all these people defend this man to the very detriment of our democracy?

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