# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2020, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1029 "2020-07-16T01:58:00Z")

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Brad Pascale was just removed as head of Trump’s re-election campaign. 😃

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2020, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1030 "2020-07-16T02:00:14Z")

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The campaign has no head, just a bunch of asses.

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**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2020, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1031 "2020-07-16T02:03:22Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Brad Pascale was just removed as head of Trump’s re-election campaign. 😃

That’s too bad. I was enjoying watching him drive Trump’s campaign into a ditch.

I wonder how much money he was able to siphon from the campaign before he was removed?

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2020, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1032 "2020-07-16T02:04:04Z")

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And replaced with a guy who Chris Christie fired for incompetence.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2020, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1033 "2020-07-16T02:09:50Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> Well shit: the Orange Imperator’s just in full-on former Soviet republic mode now, ain’t he?

Trump gone Soviet? This reminds me of the news from several days ago, that Trump called the CDC doctors a bunch of liars.

Trump is going full Josef Stalin now.

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**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2020, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1034 "2020-07-16T02:24:57Z")

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Wanting to run the Trump campaign is in itself evidence of incompetence in _something_

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2020, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1035 "2020-07-16T02:29:08Z")

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> [@robby](#):
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> I was enjoying watching him drive Trump’s campaign into a ditch.

I heard earlier today that Trump had taken to doing the opposite of what Parscale advised since after the Tulsa ‘rally’.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2020, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1036 "2020-07-16T02:34:01Z")

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> [@needscoffee](#):
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> > [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> > But an annual subscription to the Washington Post for $29?
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> I didn’t realize it was that inexpensive. Thanks for the tip! I’ll gladly pay them that if it’ll help counter what _free_ Fox “News” puts out.

I think that’s an introductory price. I’m paying $99 a year after the first year. I’m also paying $9.99/month for my local town paper, and I’m glad to do it. @Darren_Garrison can go fuck a bicycle, it costs a lot of money to run a newspaper, and we need the press badly.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2020, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1037 "2020-07-16T02:38:15Z")

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Individual 1 is interfering with the Missouri Attorney General’s office in the investigation of the couple who brandished weapons at protesters.  
[Trump Intervening in Case of Missouri Mansion Couple Who Pointed Guns](https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-intervening-case-missouri-mansion-couple-pointed-guns-governor-2020-7)?

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2020, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1038 "2020-07-16T02:45:58Z")

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It’s one thing to interfere with federal rule of law, but now he’s essentially saying fuck all rule of law at any level.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2020, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1039 "2020-07-16T02:46:51Z")

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Thanks. It does pain me that we have to pay to keep quality media in business, but it the alternative is to lose them, then I can do what I can. I support the local paper, NYT, and The New Yorker. I consider the payments a “donation” except that I actually get value from it.

Nobody expects someone to shell out if it’s not in their budget.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2020, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1040 "2020-07-16T02:47:09Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Individual 1 is interfering with the Missouri Attorney General’s office in the investigation of the couple who brandished weapons at protesters.

Gee, what could the president possibly do to affect a case like that, other than mouth off on his bully pulpit? From the article Rick\_Kitchen cited:

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> “The president said that he would do everything he could within his powers to help with this situation and he would be taking action to do that,” Parson said.

Trump’s Must-Pardon list must be growing encyclopedically long by now!

Oh wait! That’s a State case! So what can Trump do, other than mouth off and maybe lay on some sort of pressure?

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Individual 1 is interfering with the Missouri Attorney General’s office in the investigation of the couple who brandished weapons at protesters.

Like he wasn’t already counting on their votes?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2020, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1042 "2020-07-16T02:49:40Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> Oh wait! That’s a State case! So what can Trump do, other than mouth off and maybe lay on some sort of pressure?

The Governor is a MAGAt.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2020, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1043 "2020-07-16T03:47:49Z")

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> [@Aspidistra](#):
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> Wanting to run the Trump campaign is in itself evidence of incompetence in _something_

Maybe he’s just following Ivanka’s advice to “find something new”.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2020, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1044 "2020-07-16T04:16:18Z")

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Courtesy of the Lincoln Project:

[![Google Photos](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/8wecBMxOEhyZ8BagocAaH8oCltarZGt8R4ZXLfCrE6L3T-Fe2nsTpmTT1C4gV2R7QLmZXdxFlmCsN1lTOLpy-s9jLQK7b--vllw4af-46stoTiAIGkyos9OfIHJurzLszvWL2aLwJQ=w600-h315-p-k "New item by John Thornton") ](https://photos.app.goo.gl/6AAaQkD4E28QnZt96)

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
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Re: That addled press conference Trump gave recently: Can’t resist posting this, which I just spotted.

Rick Wilson doesn’t mince his words. Writing at The Daily Beast:

> **[Drunk Uncle Trump Is Melting Down, Live on Television](https://www.thedailybeast.com/drunk-uncle-trump-is-melting-down-live-on-television)**
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> This isn’t a presidential campaign ready to suddenly emerge with a cadre of competent adults in the room. It isn’t a campaign ready to convert from distress to comeback.

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> Tuesday’s White House press briefing was one of the most disturbing moments of Donald Trump’s slide into madness and desperation. As I write this, hours later, I keep thinking, “What in the actual fuck was that?”
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> Like an addled necromancer with the heavy charnel stench of a dead campaign on him, Trump spent more than an hour chanting the old incantations from an eldritch grimoire (The Dark Booke of Bannon, perhaps) only to find that nothing was working. Even his most devoted followers were eyeing the exits and wondering when some apprentice would step forward to lead him off gently off the stage for a rest and a posset of unicorn blood.
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> Trump was plainly mentally and physically exhausted, grimly plodding through a badly written set of weak-sauce talking points that wasn’t the product of a research team, but stuff scrawled with a Sharpie and pulled from his ass.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2020, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1046 "2020-07-16T04:35:39Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> > [@jsc1953](#):
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> > It’s gotten worse…the White House has now directed hospitals to send their coronavirus statistics to Health and Human Services (ie, Trump appointees) instead of the CDC. If they go through with this we won’t be able to trust a single covid stat ever again – or at least until January 20, 2021.
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> F-f-f-f-u-u-u-u-c-c-c-k.
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> There’s nothing preventing them from bcc-ing the CDC is there?

Well, the CDC is actually a federal agency. Under the umbrella of HHS. So, the fact that ShitGibbonia cannot figure out how to put the screws to something under their own control is, well, I guess it should give us a glimmer of hope.

And anyway, there is nothing to prevent healthcare providers from bccing the Gray Lady, WaPo, cnn, worldmeterset al.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2020, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1047 "2020-07-16T04:42:05Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> And anyway, there is nothing to prevent healthcare providers from bccing the Gray Lady,

As noted by several posters in the Quarantine thread, there is nothing to compel them either. The question is, will they report to CDC in addition to HHS? My speculation is, it might depend on the political leanings of each individual state. Thus, the statistics that CDC collects could become incomplete and fragmented and unreliable.

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**Post date:** [July 16, 2020, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1048 "2020-07-16T05:49:35Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> But an annual subscription to the Washington Post for $29?

> [@needscoffee](#):
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> I didn’t realize it was that inexpensive. Thanks for the tip! I’ll gladly pay them that if it’ll help counter what _free_ Fox “News” puts out.

I’m starting to think the same way. I already pay for the _L.A. Times_, and a few journals, but if I can afford it, it’s a good cause to support what the _Washington Post_ has been doing.

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