# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 67
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2020, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1329 "2020-07-24T02:44:57Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > … In the association test they give you two words and you need to find the similarity. They do this for two sets of words. Train-bicycle and watch -ruler are the pairs they give in the sample test. But I’m thinking that the alternate word set was man-woman and camera -TV. The answer to the first set would be, of course, person. > > The association test comes directly before the delayed recall test, when the patient is asked to repeat the 5 words. > > Here’s what I think happened. I think when the doctor asked him to repeat the 5 words he wrongly repeated the five words from the last question - man woman person camera TV - instead of the correct ones. And the doctor , who I’m sure is a Trump shill, decided to accept it and tell him how awesomely smart he was. So I don’t think he even passed the damn test and I bet he messed up other parts, too. … I _wondered_ why the five words Trump claimed were the ones he was asked to repeat were so closely related! Every sample version I’ve seen or heard described, gives five unrelated words— **not** a set of three related words (person man woman) and then a set of two related words (camera TV). Your suggestion makes a lot of sense. I bet you’re exactly right! ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2020, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1330 "2020-07-24T03:33:24Z")
[hijack] Why do studio microphones have that scaffold around them? [/hijack] ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2020, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1331 "2020-07-24T03:43:21Z")
The actual MoCa or Mini-Mental State Exam will use unrelated items–otherwise, the relationship makes them easier to remember. Lion, piano, cactus, yes. Mother, sister, dancer, no. ETA: Trump’s list isn’t related to an actual MoCA question. Plenty of people I’ve tested do just fine on MoCA or MMSE. The items are pulled from larger neuropsych tests, so the examiner can refer the examinee for either general or specific texting for more detail and confirmation of the findings. I haven’t had anyone ask for pen and paper, but lots of people sketch numbers and words in the air or on the table with a finger, which is acceptable. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2020, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1332 "2020-07-24T04:45:32Z")
Are you talking about the shock mount? It’s there to help keep the mic isolated from vibrations. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2020, 9:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1333 "2020-07-24T09:35:07Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > [hijack] > Why do studio microphones have that scaffold around them? > [/hijack] So singers maintain a proper social distance from them. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2020, 10:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1334 "2020-07-24T10:00:28Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Maybe. But then, who is imagining you We are all a shared hallucination of each other. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2020, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1335 "2020-07-24T14:15:37Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > We are all a shared hallucination of each other.- When are we going to wake up?? 😱 ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2020, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1336 "2020-07-24T14:17:18Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > When are we going to wake up? If that happens it _all_ goes away. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2020, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1337 "2020-07-24T14:41:26Z")
The brilliant Sarah Cooper takes [Trump’s 5 words and turns it into a parody of The Usual Suspects.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8oaaP68i4s) ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2020, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1338 "2020-07-24T14:46:46Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > If that happens it _all_ goes away. Frankly, at this point I’m willing… ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2020, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1339 "2020-07-24T14:52:54Z")
She obviously saw my tweet 😛 > ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2020, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1340 "2020-07-24T15:40:15Z")
Let’s all scream at the same time. One…two…three! ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2020, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1341 "2020-07-24T15:43:48Z")
Somebody referred to Cuccinelly as “Uber Groupon furor”. Some sort of corporate tie-in. Yeah. Gotta be that. ---
**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2020, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1342 "2020-07-24T15:59:07Z")
And he repeated them twice in about a minute. Still hesitated and looked at the objects to remind himself. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2020, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1343 "2020-07-24T16:48:57Z")
> [@Dung\_Beetle](#): > > Let’s all scream at the same time. One…two…three! Oh, I’ve been screaming for a while now. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2020, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1344 "2020-07-24T17:05:47Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > " Donald Trump, the president of the United States, has insisted that a cognitive test he took recently was “difficult”, using the example of a question in which the patient is asked to remember and repeat five words. > > “Person, woman, man, camera, TV,” Trump explained, saying that listing the words in order was worth “extra points”, and that he found the task easy. The hilarious thing about that interview was, the five words Trump used, he was just naming things in his immediate area. “Person, woman, man, camera, TV.” Lol In the real test, the five words are not related. It more like: “Box, extravagant, sweet, mail, shoulder.” ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2020, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1345 "2020-07-24T17:20:53Z")
> [@Red\_Wiggler](#): > > Wait, I’m almost 67 and on Medicare and I haven’t been asked to take a cognitive test. Maybe it’s simply obvious that I’m too far gone already? Perhaps I’m even imagining this board? Me neither and I’m 70. Who are you and what was the question? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2020, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1346 "2020-07-24T18:07:51Z")
Remember, 70 is the new 68. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2020, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1347 "2020-07-24T18:11:32Z")
Is it normal for people in that age range to just skip 69? ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2020, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1348 "2020-07-24T18:16:41Z")
Well, it does require a certain amount of flexiblity which many seniors find that they have lost. 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=66) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=68)