# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 69
**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1369 "2020-07-25T00:47:09Z")
Especially after watching the Seth Myers video, I want to emphasize what **Ann\_Hedonia** said earlier: there is no way anyone gives a patient a list of words to remember where the words are as clearly related as man, person, woman, camera, and TV. I say this as someone who’s administered many, many MOCAs and [Folsteins](https://www.heartandstroke.ca/-/media/pdf-files/canada/clinical-update/allen-huang-cognitive-screening-toolkit.ashx?la=en&hash=631B35521724C28268D0C2130D07A401E33CDBB0). As usual, Trump is full of shit (or I suppose psychotic) ---
**Author:** ![mistymage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mistymage/32/459_2.png) [@mistymage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mistymage)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1370 "2020-07-25T00:57:05Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > "A baloo is a bear. " “Wuzzle means to mix.” “A lepton is a Greek coin.” “A younker is a young man.” Are these Iowa Tests flashbacks I’m getting? Or California tests? Thirty-five years-ish ago, do I get bonus points for still remembering? Great! I remember ITBS and ITEDs … now I’m stuck trying to recall the speed and accuracy reading tests (you watched a glorified view master as words/sentences/paragraphs flew by at the speed you set it to and then did a ~10- 20 question/answer test (ABCD) for comprehension.) I hesitate but I think they were called SARs. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1371 "2020-07-25T01:09:19Z")
“Sculch is junk” – that was the fifth one. Although I now wonder if I’m conflating two different tests or two different years into one, but it was all late 80s when I was in grammar school. ---
**Author:** ![mistymage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mistymage/32/459_2.png) [@mistymage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mistymage)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1372 "2020-07-25T01:36:11Z")
I think the (gah) SaRs was only until 5th grade. ITEDS were changed to ITBS or vice versa late 1980s? Or maybe I’m just traumatized by thinking back to when the kids had to do these tests. 1999-2018? ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1373 "2020-07-25T04:00:08Z")
You know, we’re almost 4 years into this presidency and I still barely recognize or have any idea of what names like Stone, Ailes, Manafort, Epstein, Flynn mean or represent at all, nor am I interested in finding out. All I know is that they are linked to scandal of some sort. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1374 "2020-07-25T04:13:29Z")
This Board is about fighting ignorance, not reveling in it. Just sayin’. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 7:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1375 "2020-07-25T07:45:41Z")
Something about repeating those five words that nobody above has emphasized: You’re given the five words, asked to repeat them immediately, and not warned that you will be asked again later. Then, in between the first time you’re asked to repeat them and the second time, there are several other questions that require your full attention. I think the problem to count down from 100 by sevens is there. You need to fully concentrate on that to do it. I think there’s also the question in there where you are read a full sentence and have to repeat it. You have no chance to rehearse the five words silently in your mind while you’re distracted with those other questions, and you’re not given any reason to think you should anyway. I don’t know if I could repeat the five words after all that distraction. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 10:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1376 "2020-07-25T10:52:36Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > nor am I interested in finding out And it shows… ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 11:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1377 "2020-07-25T11:24:55Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > {…} You know, we’re almost 4 years into this presidency and I still barely recognize or have any idea of what names like Stone, Ailes {…} You know, Stone and Ailes have only been a part of conservative Republican politics since Nixon, so I can understand why you don’t recognize them. I also can now dismiss any opinions you have about politics because, as you said, you barely have any idea what’s going on. CMC ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1378 "2020-07-25T12:22:34Z")
I mean…Why are you here? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1379 "2020-07-25T13:30:49Z")
[![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Edo8s2aXoAAAFV3.jpg) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Edo8s2aXoAAAFV3.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1380 "2020-07-25T13:56:02Z")
> [@The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux/911083/261): > > We are several years into the Trump presidency and I realize I still have no idea what names like Flynn, Manafort, Stone, etc. are all about - nor do I care to find out. Enough of a mental mess. > [@The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux/911083/1373): > > You know, we’re almost 4 years into this presidency and I still barely recognize or have any idea of what names like Stone, Ailes, Manafort, Epstein, Flynn mean or represent at all, nor am I interested in finding out. All I know is that they are linked to scandal of some sort. A month and a half between these similar posts, and yet you still have a need to impress us with your ignorance. 🤓 ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1381 "2020-07-25T14:14:12Z")
Remember: the Dope never forgets. 🤨 Or something like that. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1382 "2020-07-25T14:42:04Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > You know, we’re almost 4 years into this presidency and I still barely recognize or have any idea of what names like Stone, Ailes, Manafort, Epstein, Flynn mean or represent at all, nor am I interested in finding out. All I know is that they are linked to scandal of some sort. **PLONK** [The new board is frustrating because my old ignore list didn’t carry over, so I’ve got to put them on there one. at. a. time.] ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1383 "2020-07-25T14:43:33Z")
You bunch a dad gum elitists!!! ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1384 "2020-07-25T14:51:42Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > You bunch a dad gum elitists!!!- I guess one of the prerequisites to fighting ignorance is identifying it, amirite? ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1385 "2020-07-25T15:43:19Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > A month and a half between these similar posts, and yet you still have a need to impress us with your ignorance. 🤓  Oh, man, I thought that seemed very familiar… ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1386 "2020-07-25T15:44:37Z")
He not only opened his mouth to remove all doubt, he did so twice! ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1387 "2020-07-25T16:20:27Z")
[https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/580044443751809024/736618142826102894/Resized95blitt95kvetchbook95trump95test.jpg](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/580044443751809024/736618142826102894/Resized95blitt95kvetchbook95trump95test.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1388 "2020-07-25T16:29:27Z")
No big surprise here: > **[Trump erupted over Esper's de facto ban on Confederate flag, sources say](https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/07/24/politics/trump-erupted-esper-defacto-ban-on-confederate-flag/index.html)** > > President Donald Trump erupted late last week after Defense Secretary Mark Esper issued a new military-wide directive that was a de facto ban on the display of the Confederate flag. > According to two people familiar with his reaction, Trump was fuming over Esper’s carefully worded memo that did not mention the flag by name, but effectively banned it from being flown on military installations by not naming it. > > Trump has declined to denounce the Confederate flag in recent weeks and has instead said those who see it as a source of pride should be able to continue flying it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=68) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=70)