# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 73
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1449 "2020-07-27T14:36:45Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Good points here. I do wish the Oregon protesters would go home at night–announcing that policy prominently. That way, anyone committing mayhem in their name after dark would be revealed as false-flag operatives trying to give Trump juicy footage of “violent leftists”. > > This situation is being gamed by the pro-Trump fascists in a way that could be very effective for them. I wish the anti-fascists wouldn’t (inadvertently) cooperate. I wish they’d make the fascist goals as hard as possible to achieve. The mayor of Oakland is thinking along the same lines: > [@NY Times](#): > > “I’m furious that Oakland may have played right into Donald Trump’s twisted campaign strategy,” Oakland’s mayor, Libby Schaaf, said in an interview on Sunday. “Images of a vandalized downtown is exactly what he wants to whip up his base and to potentially justify sending in federal troops that will only incite more unrest.” ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1450 "2020-07-27T14:43:27Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Hell, make the students print out the stuff… and sell them the printers, too! Win-win! No, no, no. You _give_ them the printers and overcharge them for the ink. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1451 "2020-07-27T14:54:14Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > The Fox News conservatives are fodder for every shady-assed business out there, overpriced disaster kits, natural miracle cures, collectible gold and silver, water and air purification kits, get rich quick courses, collectible plates and coins, you name it… Pillows supposedly invented because the huckster couldn’t figure out how to keep his down pillow from flattening. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1452 "2020-07-27T14:56:57Z")
It’s simple. Goslings don’t compact like down does. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1453 "2020-07-27T15:19:37Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > No, no, no. You _give_ them the printers and overcharge them for the ink. Well, that’s the norm, right? Where’s the trumpian innovation in that? 😛 ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1454 "2020-07-27T15:21:20Z")
He’ll still claim that no one ever thought of it. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1455 "2020-07-27T15:21:54Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Well, that’s the norm, right? Where’s the trumpian innovation in that? 😛 You slap a big TRUMP logo on it. Seems to be the pattern, right? ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1456 "2020-07-27T16:45:56Z")
The problem with Trump Toner is that it only comes in orange. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1457 "2020-07-27T16:55:55Z")
He couldn’t figure out how to shake out a pillow??? I have down pillows and love them. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1458 "2020-07-27T17:12:46Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Pillows supposedly invented because the huckster couldn’t figure out how to keep his down pillow from flattening. > [@running\_coach](#): > > It’s simple. Goslings don’t compact like down does. And anyway, everyone knows you don’t get down from an elephant. ---
**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1459 "2020-07-27T17:24:05Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > And anyway, everyone knows you don’t get down from an elephant. I couldn’t get **up** on an elephant 😏 ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1460 "2020-07-27T17:45:55Z")
No, the solution is to have Mike Lindell come into your bedroom and hold your pillow all night so it retains its perfect supportive position. But he’s said he’s not going to to that ( he only does that for one special person ), so if you can’t figure out how to work your regular non-magic pillow you have to buy his. Note: If this post doesn’t make sense then you haven’t seen that one commercial. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1461 "2020-07-27T17:52:41Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > Note: If this post doesn’t make sense then you haven’t seen that one commercial.- And thank your lucky stars! 🌠 ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1462 "2020-07-27T17:52:57Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > Note: If this post doesn’t make sense then you haven’t seen that one commercial. I think I’m getting the gist of it. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1463 "2020-07-27T17:56:10Z")
Incompetence and malice often go hand in hand. Not necessarily referring to you or anyone here, but there’s a common assumption that authoritarian types are competent or that they need to be smart or cunning. But a lot of times, they’re just opportunistic, and it’s not uncommon for an authoritarian to capitalize on his own incompetence. Trump and the GOP are capitalizing on the failure of capitalism and the failure of their own government to rein in capitalism’s excesses. And when they’re out of power, they use whatever legalistic and political mechanisms they can to thwart any attempts to enact change. Their propaganda machine misinforms an already frustrated and cynical public. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1464 "2020-07-27T18:01:00Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Well, that’s the norm, right? Where’s the trumpian innovation in that? It’s solid Gold (colored) ink, that really gives the printouts that Trumpian “Quality” image, that clearly adds value. You’ll feel richer every time you read Trump’s immortal quotes, “I take no responsibility at all!”, “Person, man, woman, … camera … TV!” ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1465 "2020-07-27T18:11:39Z")
Of course I remember! Sam Jaffe, Mars, Venus, asterisk, Jesus, lazy eight! Doesn’t make any damn sense, but I _remember_! ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1466 "2020-07-27T19:18:10Z")
Too bad it wasn’t “Breathe. Sunflower. Rainbow. 450.” [What Is Eleven's Mom Mumbling On 'Stranger Things'? The Meaning Behind Her Words Is Heartbreaking](https://www.romper.com/p/what-is-elevens-mom-mumbling-on-stranger-things-the-meaning-behind-her-words-is-heartbreaking-2996286) ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1467 "2020-07-27T20:04:09Z")
ICE agreed to have a documentary crew follow them as they performed their activities, and now that the documentary is ready for release, ICE is threatening law suits and demanding that it not be shown because it doesn’t show them in a good light. > **[A Rare Look Inside Trump’s Immigration Crackdown Draws Legal Threats...](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/23/us/trump-immigration-nation-netflix.html)** > > A new documentary peers inside the secretive world of immigration enforcement. The filmmakers faced demands to delete scenes and delay broadcast until after the election. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1468 "2020-07-27T20:10:02Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > ICE is threatening law suits and demanding that it not be shown because it doesn’t show them in a good light. And [their introductory course on how to subject one’s suspected illegal immigrant neighbor to citizen’s arrest](https://www.newsweek.com/ice-launching-citizens-academy-course-how-agency-arrests-immigrants-1516656) _does?_ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=72) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=74)