# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2020, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1489 "2020-07-28T16:00:54Z")

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Trump’s bragging about passing a mental competence test that Hodor could have passed.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2020, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1490 "2020-07-28T16:14:29Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> I think I’ve found something [better](https://youtu.be/4RWUYR1cEiU). And there’s a video about his ramp encounter, too, which is [even _better_](https://youtu.be/ign_vZupjno).

Fitness experts analyze Trump’s gait: “Like Usain Bolt crossed with Marshawn Lynch”

Hilarious!

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**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2020, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1491 "2020-07-28T16:17:17Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> At least two Republican Senators, including Lindsay Graham, have said it’s inappropriate to put into the stimulus bill.

Ah, the ultimate wind-sock, Graham, had decided that Trump won’t be here when this will be built, so it’s time to jump ship.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2020, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1492 "2020-07-28T16:26:16Z")

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> [@Skypist](#):
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> I don’t think he learned the same socialization lessons and skills that most people do as children. That was apparent even before his niece’s book came out.

There has been a TON of stuff written about Donald. There is nothing new or unknown about this guy. He’s always been Mr. WYSIWYG. No surprises. Except that he could get elected president.

I read two articles today (one from 2016) that explained a lot. (Probably paywalled-- I’ve quoted a bit.)

> **[Like Father, Like Son: President Trump Lets Others Mourn (Published 2020)](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/28/us/politics/donald-fred-trump.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage)**
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> Whether he is dealing with the loss of a family member or the deaths of nearly 150,000 Americans in a surging pandemic, President Trump almost never displays empathy in public. He learned it from his father.

> …“Donald started his eulogy [at his father’s funeral] by saying, ‘I was having the greatest year of my business career, and I was sitting having breakfast thinking of how well things were going for me,’” when he learned of his father’s death, said Alan Marcus, a former public relations consultant for the Trump Organization. “Donald’s eulogy was all about Donald, and everybody in Vincent Peale’s church knew it.”…

From 2016:

> **[Confident. Incorrigible. Bully: Little Donny was a lot like candidate Donald...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/young-donald-trump-military-school/2016/06/22/f0b3b164-317c-11e6-8758-d58e76e11b12_story.html)**
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> “He had a reputation for saying anything that came into his head,” a schoolmate recalls.

> …In elementary school, Donny impressed classmates with his athleticism, shenanigans and refusal to acknowledge mistakes, even one so trivial as misidentifying a popular professional wrestler. No matter his pals’ ridicule, one recalled, he doubled down, insisting wrestler Antonino Rocca’s name was “Rocky Antonino.”
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> At the military academy where he attended high school, Donny grew taller, more muscular and tougher. Struck with a broomstick during a fight, he tried to push a fellow cadet out a second-floor window, only to be thwarted when two other students intervened.  
> …
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> “When I look at myself in the first grade and I look at myself now, I’m basically the same,” the 70-year-old presumptive Republican nominee once told a biographer. “The temperament is not that different.”  
> …
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> Dennis Burnham was four years younger and lived around the corner from Donald. He inherited his own impression of his neighbor from his mother, who warned that he should “stay away from the Trumps.”
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> “Donald was known to be a bully, I was a little kid, and my parents didn’t want me beaten up,” said Burnham, 65, a business consultant in Texas.
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> Once when she left Dennis in a playpen in a back yard adjoining the Trumps’ property, Martha Burnham returned to find Donald throwing rocks at her son. “She saw Donald standing at the fence,” Dennis Burnham said, “using the playpen for target ­practice.”  
> …

Who brags that they haven’t grown or changed since first grade?

Nothing new about the Son of Fred Trump (a **real** bastard!)

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2020, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1493 "2020-07-28T16:41:25Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> There _is_ a way to get more elephants. Rather hard on the tourists though.

Well, after all, involving Republicans in anything _is_ rather like mating elephants.

- There is a good bit of trumpeting and screaming
- Things are carried on at a high level
- It takes two years to get any results

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2020, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1494 "2020-07-28T18:25:08Z")

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So, Donnie Junior got his tweet deleted and his account blocked for 12 hours, and Twitter even had the audacity to remove the same tweet from Individual 1’s account (instead of just covering it with a warning like they have in the past (because the video they retweeted was praising hydroxychloroquine).  
The video is from a doctor and minister named Stella Immanuel (among several other names she uses.) And what else does Stella Immanuel believe?  
1-Sex with demons in your dreams will make you sick.  
2-Scientists are using alien DNA in their research.  
3-Scientists have discovered the “gene” in your mind which makes you religious, and they’re developing a vaccine against being religious.  
4-Reptilian beings run the government.  
5-Hydroxychloroquine cures Covid 19 (and she’s cured over hundreds of people with it), so you don’t need to wear a mask (even though the staff at her clinic wears masks)  
6-After Facebook removed her video, she warned them that if they don’t put it back up, God will destroy Facebook’s servers.

> **[Trump’s New COVID Doctor Says Sex With Demons Makes You Sick](https://www.thedailybeast.com/stella-immanuel-trumps-new-covid-doctor-believes-in-alien-dna-demon-sperm-and-hydroxychloroquine)**
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> The president is pushing the coronavirus theories of a Houston doctor who also says sexual visitations by demons and alien DNA are at the root of Americans’ common health concerns.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> …4-Reptilian beings run the government…

I kinda go along with this one.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2020, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1496 "2020-07-28T19:27:29Z")

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My MAGA facebook “friend” just posted something today about this woman, along the lines of “aha! finally the truth comes out!” yada yada. Of course, the friend did no research of her own and was just forwarding the bullshit that she received.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2020, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1497 "2020-07-28T19:39:41Z")

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Did you stomp all over her with the revelation that this “doctor” also believes that dream sex with demons gives you GYN issues such as cancer?

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2020, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1498 "2020-07-28T19:44:30Z")

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> [@Skypist](#):
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> I don’t think he learned the same socialization lessons and skills that most people do as children. That was apparent even before his niece’s book came out.

I’ve said before that Trump never needed to learn the social skills that most people need. He was born in a rich family and was always given what he wanted and never had to accept any consequences for doing something wrong.

Most of us didn’t grow up in that kind of environment. We needed to learn skills to get what we wanted or to get out of trouble. We needed to learn things like how to persuade people, how to motivate people, how to charm people, how to manipulate people, and how to deceive people.

This background explains why Trump is so bad at interpersonal skills. He never learned he should tell the truth because nobody ever taught him that. But he also never learned how to tell a convincing lie because he never had to face the consequences of telling a bad lie.

It also explains why he’s so dull-witted. He’s never needed to use his intelligence and his brain is flabby from lack of exercise.

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2020, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1499 "2020-07-28T19:59:39Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> 1-Sex with demons in your dreams will make you sick.

Dang, that’s the only sex I’m getting these days…!

> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> > [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> > …4-Reptilian beings run the government…
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> I kinda go along with this one.

That _might_ be an insult to reptiles…

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2020, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1500 "2020-07-28T20:50:39Z")

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> [@Broomstick](#):
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> Dang, that’s the only sex I’m getting these days…!-

👍🏼

> [@Broomstick](#):
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> That _might_ be an insult to reptiles…-

Hmmm… good point. I like those cute little lizards. Goodness knows, I rescue enough of them from my cats when they bring them in the house.

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2020, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1501 "2020-07-28T21:12:45Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> Well, after all, involving Republicans in anything _is_ rather like mating elephants.
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> - There is a good bit of trumpeting and screaming
> - Things are carried on at a high level
> - It takes two years to get any results

- And, when they are finally shooed out of the Halls of Governing, they leave behind a massive stinking mess.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2020, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1502 "2020-07-29T00:21:16Z")

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Donnie got his fweewings hurt and stomped out of his briefing. Poor Donnie. Everwybuddy’s so meeeeen to him.

[https://a.msn.com/r/2/BB17hZCD?m=en-us&referrerID=InAppShare](https://a.msn.com/r/2/BB17hZCD?m=en-us&referrerID=InAppShare)

> When Trump was pressed by CNN’s Kaitlan Collins about his words of support for a doctor who downplayed masks and suggested alien DNA was used in medical treatments, he cut the briefing short and stormed out.
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> It was a sign that despite the efforts of his aides to recalibrate his approach, his own desire to improve his standing and the pandemic raging throughout the country, Trump is still trapped in some of the self-destructive tendencies that have brought him low.  
> …
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> Trump has cited OANN\* as a new favorite television channel after becoming frustrated with Fox News’ willingness to interview Democrats. The channel, which is not distributed widely, often peddles wild conspiracies and false information.  
> …

\* _Otherwise known as Wanker News Network_

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2020, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1503 "2020-07-29T02:02:34Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> > [@Sherrerd](#):
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> > It may have been posted already, but the best takeoff on Trump’s fake ‘memory test’ words I’ve seen is:
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> > **Putin . Russia . Bounty . Troops . Silence**
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> I think I’ve found something [better](https://youtu.be/4RWUYR1cEiU). And there’s a video about his ramp encounter, too, which is [even _better_](https://youtu.be/ign_vZupjno).

Good stuff. The greatest weapon against Trump-Adoration is not pointing out his corruption and bullying and vicious indifference to human life and American values—it’s pointing out what a ridiculous clown he is.

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2020, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1504 "2020-07-29T04:20:31Z")

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**I Had  
Sex with a Demon  
and  
All I Got Was  
This Lousy Cancer**

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2020, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1505 "2020-07-29T12:15:47Z")

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I suppose it’s never been a secret that Madonna isn’t exactly tightly wound. [But I think she’s finally come completely untied.](https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1288292562239856640/photo/2) (Link is a retweet image of hers post calling the alien demon doctor\* her hero. Unironically. I think.)

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**Author:** ![MrAtoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MrAtoz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrAtoz)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2020, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1506 "2020-07-29T12:29:40Z")

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Not nearly as well known as Madonna, but one of my Facebook friends has proclaimed that all this criticism of Dr. Stella Immanuel is just a bunch of haters going after a strong black woman who’s not afraid to speak her mind. 🙄

Truly, we are doomed.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2020, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1507 "2020-07-29T12:37:28Z")

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> [@MrAtoz](#):
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> but one of my Facebook friends has proclaimed

I find myself wishing that the alien demon sex doctor is right about god destroying all Facebook servers.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2020, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1508 "2020-07-29T12:53:14Z")

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More than that, he grew up in a toxic family environment in which his siblings competed for the attention of a bigoted patriarchal sociopath. It’s not only a matter of not needing the social skills that most people needed; to survive that family dynamic, he needed the opposite: he needed to be a sociopath to survive in that environment. He was bred to be narcissistic, uncaring, and cruel when it suits him.

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