# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1589 "2020-07-30T18:05:00Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> It always amazes me when I see people think this way. It’s like they don’t even understand the concept of judgement. Their worldview is binary; in terms of authority this means that they divide the world up into people who you should always believe in everything and people who you should never believe in anything…

Meanwhile they pat themselves on the back for being independent thinkers because they are don’t accept the beliefs of the so called “experts”.

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**Author:** ![SingleMalt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/singlemalt/32/3961_2.png) [@SingleMalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SingleMalt)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1590 "2020-07-30T18:10:10Z")

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I mentioned elsewhere that the Biden campaign and the Democrats should just start calling it “universal absentee voting”. Let _them_ argue semantics.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1591 "2020-07-30T18:22:39Z")

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Pompeo, who is Secretary of State and is the person responsible for overseeing federal election law, was asked about Individual 1’s call to postpone the election, and he said, paraphrasing, “Go ask Barr.”

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1592 "2020-07-30T18:23:25Z")

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“ZOMG! HE’S WEARING A TAN SUIT IN THE OVAL OFFICE!”

“WHAT ABOUT HER EMAILS?!”

Funny how that pops into memory, a botched pandemic response resulting in tens of thousands of unnecessary deaths and hospitalizations and an economic meltdown later.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1593 "2020-07-30T18:54:00Z")

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Donnie Junior gets back on Twitter after his brief enforced vacation and starts off by attacking Barbie dolls.  
[Donald Trump Jr returns to Twitter following suspension to complain about new Barbie collection | The Independent | The Independent](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-jr-barbie-twitter-suspension-doll-election-2020-a9644196.html)?

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1594 "2020-07-30T19:05:35Z")

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> [@BippityBoppityBoo](#):
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> Walmarts don’t even have basements

That’s what they TELL you to believe! Wake up, sheeple!

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1595 "2020-07-30T19:21:44Z")

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> [@needscoffee](#):
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> Twitter responder: “In all fairness, bet he spotted a clock beyond the teleprompter. Carbon. Zero. Sweat. Clock. 2:30.”

I am reminded of a single-panel cartoon from long ago. A defendant is standing at the bar and the judge is saying, “Being found guilty you are hereby sentenced to… oh, four and a half years.”

The defendant’s lawyer is by his side, looking over his shoulder. At the back of the courtroom is a clock reading 4:30.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1596 "2020-07-30T19:24:48Z")

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> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> > [@solost](#):
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> > Herman Cain dies from Coronavirus.
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> > > June 20: attends Tulsa rally  
> > > July 1: admitted to hospital with symptoms  
> > > July 30: dead
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> One notes that @realdonaldtrump has failed to mention it.

> [@Skypist](#):
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> Obviously Herman Cain just wanted to make trump look bad! /s

Nobody has mentioned the obvious, so I guess I will have to:

Unless I’m much mistaken, Herman Cain was not a white person.

Therefore, it doesn’t count. Just like that other guy \<ahem\> who’s having a funeral today. Ya know?

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1597 "2020-07-30T19:36:58Z")

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Correct the record:  
[https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/509835-trump-mourns-american-patriot-and-great-friend-herman-cain](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/509835-trump-mourns-american-patriot-and-great-friend-herman-cain)

> [President Trump](https://thehill.com/people/donald-trump) on Thursday mourned the death of [Herman Cain](https://thehill.com/people/herman-cain), who died earlier in the day of complications from COVID-19, calling the businessman and former presidential candidate “an American Patriot, and great friend.”
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> The president tweeted that he spoke to Cain’s family to express his condolences.  
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> Cain [died at the age of 74](https://thehill.com/homenews/news/509761-herman-cain-dies-at-74-from-covid-19-complications) nearly a month after he was hospitalized with COVID-19. He was admitted to the hospital 10 days after he attended Trump’s campaign rally in Tulsa, Okla., where he was seen seated in the stands without a mask.
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> Cain had said he did not know exactly how or when he contracted the virus, but local health officials attributed a subsequent rise in cases in the area to the Trump rally where thousands of people gathered without masks and with minimal social distancing.  
> …

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1598 "2020-07-30T19:38:17Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> > [@BippityBoppityBoo](#):
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> > Walmarts don’t even have basements
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> That’s what they TELL you to believe! Wake up, sheeple!

Meanwhile the Greys sit back in their lairs beneath Targets and chuckle at how well their disinformation plan has worked.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1599 "2020-07-30T19:40:18Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Correct the record:

Trump has reason to be upset. He just lost half his black voter base.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1600 "2020-07-30T19:56:50Z")

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He always said he had a great relationship with the blacks.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1601 "2020-07-30T20:08:51Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Trump has reason to be upset. He just lost half his black voter base

Ouch!

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1602 "2020-07-30T20:31:04Z")

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> And [Arizonans and Texans](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/texas-arizona-coronavirus-deaths-refrigerated-trucks-morgues/)

I will tell you how the repubs in AZ deal with the fact of refrigerated trailers full of Covid victims.

Denial.

1. They have that every year, the MSM just never tells you
2. It’s fake - my sister’s friends’ barbers’ friend works in a hospital and she says the hospital is at 10% capacity. Doctors are sitting around bored.
3. There are no trailers - those are deep state fakes.
4. They have the trailers, but it’s just a precaution. There’s no one in them.

I’ve heard all these.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1603 "2020-07-30T20:45:00Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Trump has reason to be upset. He just lost half his black voter base.

He seems to be [working hard](https://twitter.com/RajivSi86412039/status/1288662699170082816) at losing the foundation of his base, saying he does not care about the health of “I call them the ‘hills have eyes people’” and what can you do when they are “balls deep in their sister”.

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1604 "2020-07-30T21:15:54Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> They have to follow him, as he is the constitutionally appointed head, and to be honest, the only thing that worries me more than the military listening to Trump is the military not listening to the president.

No, they have to **_follow the constitution_.** If the Commander-in-Chief gives orders that violate constitutional provision the constitution trumps (sorry) the CiC. That what tops military leaders were signaling a few weeks back.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1605 "2020-07-30T21:20:01Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> He seems to be [working hard](https://twitter.com/RajivSi86412039/status/1288662699170082816) at losing the foundation of his base, saying he does not care about the health of “I call them the ‘hills have eyes people’” and what can you do when they are “balls deep in their sister”.

Is that honest-to-goodness legit? I feel like he’s not that quick or clever to come up with “shooting Mountain Dew into their veins and watching Tiger King for the 45th time” on the spot like that. And with the mask, do we really know he said it? Seems too good to be true.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1606 "2020-07-30T21:23:46Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> Seems too good to be true.

> **[Was Trump Caught on Hot Mic Insulting His Supporters?](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-video-insulting-supporters/)**
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> Hot mic videos are always popular, but not always accurate.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1607 "2020-07-30T21:25:33Z")

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Yep, just found that on Snopes too.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1608 "2020-07-30T21:28:07Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> > [@eschereal](#):
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> > He seems to be [working hard](https://twitter.com/RajivSi86412039/status/1288662699170082816) at losing the foundation of his base, saying he does not care about the health of “I call them the ‘hills have eyes people’” and what can you do when they are “balls deep in their sister”.
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> Is that honest-to-goodness legit? I feel like he’s not that quick or clever to come up with “shooting Mountain Dew into their veins and watching Tiger King for the 45th time” on the spot like that. And with the mask, do we really know he said it? Seems too good to be true.

The video is stamped Project Veritas, which is James O’Keefe thing. I don’t think the guy who faked a video to damage the reputation of ACORN would even allow such a video to exist if the events it recorded were true

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