# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\
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**Post date:** [July 31, 2020, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1629 "2020-07-31T16:57:48Z")

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> [@Mollie\_Magill](#):
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> **Mocking is okay as long as it’s applied to other people**. When it’s applied to Trumpists, it’s horribly cruel and unfair.

They’ve spent their whole life punching up.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2020, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1630 "2020-07-31T17:11:50Z")

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Punching up or punching down?

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2020, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1631 "2020-07-31T18:05:12Z")

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> [@Coriolanus](#):
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> Good stuff. I want to laugh - yet it’s only Act IV of this tragedy. Just over 173 days till  
> [Time until Wednesday, 20 January 2021](https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20210120T09&p0=900&msg=Inauguration+2021&font=sanserif)

[My counter](https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?iso=20210120T12&p0=263&msg=No+more+Trump&font=cursive) is more direct. I created it two days after Donny Two-scoops was inaugurated.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2020, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1632 "2020-07-31T18:16:44Z")

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> [@Mollie\_Magill](#):
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> Punching up or punching down?

Punching up. They’re too low to punch down.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2020, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1633 "2020-07-31T18:20:37Z")

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I appreciate the sentiment you’re trying to express but think the way you’re going about it sucks and doesn’t make any sense.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2020, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1634 "2020-07-31T18:27:26Z")

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According to Vanity Fair, the reason why there was never a nationally coordinated coronavirus response is because Jared saw that it was disproportionately affecting blue states, and so there was no political will to prevent it.  
[https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/07/how-jared-kushners-secret-testing-plan-went-poof-into-thin-ai](https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/07/how-jared-kushners-secret-testing-plan-went-poof-into-thin-ai)

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2020, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1635 "2020-07-31T18:28:35Z")

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The head of ICE is stepping down because Individual 1 doesn’t think he was mean enough.  
[Acting ICE Boss Matthew Albence, Who Trump Admin Thought Was Too Nice, Is Retiring](https://www.thedailybeast.com/acting-ice-boss-matthew-albence-who-trump-admin-thought-was-too-nice-is-retiring)?

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2020, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1636 "2020-07-31T19:08:39Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> The head of ICE is stepping down because Individual 1 doesn’t think he was mean enough.

Good idea. Because there’s no possible way that pissing off an administration insider with possible dirt three months before the election can go wrong.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2020, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1637 "2020-07-31T19:15:44Z")

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With a lack of self-awareness that’s stunning even for this crowd, the Trump administration has officially condemned the Chinese government for proposing to postpone upcoming elections in Hong Kong.

White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany stated _“We condemn the Hong Kong government’s decision to postpone for one year its legislative council elections and to disqualify opposition candidates. This action undermines the democratic processes and freedoms that have underpinned Hong Kong’s prosperity.”_

And then her head exploded.

> **[White House condemns Hong Kong election delay after Trump floated postponing...](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/509975-white-house-condemns-hong-kong-election-delay-after-trump-floated/)**
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> White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany on Friday condemned the decision to delay legislative elections in Hong Kong, one day after President Trump asked if the U.S. should post…

Swear to god, I checked this on three different sites just to make sure it was a real news story and not a parody.

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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2020, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1638 "2020-07-31T19:19:27Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> That was indeed Stephen Root. A national treasure if ever there was one.

He couldn’t disguise his voice. The “patient” looked a lot like a younger version of my vet.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2020, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1639 "2020-07-31T19:44:16Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> With a lack of self-awareness that’s stunning even for this crowd, the Trump administration has officially condemned the Chinese government for proposing to postpone upcoming elections in Hong Kong.

Cognitive dissonance? This is beyond Shönberg, Cage, Penderecki, Xenakis, or Beefheart. We’re into Ice J J Fish territory now.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/iq_d8VSM0nw/maxresdefault.jpg "IceJJFish - On The Floor (Official Music Video) ThatRaw.com Presents") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iq_d8VSM0nw)

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**Post date:** [July 31, 2020, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1640 "2020-07-31T23:13:59Z")

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> **[Trump Holds Less Than Impressive Rally at Tampa Airport](https://www.politicususa.com/2020/07/31/trump-holds-less-than-impressive-rally-at-tampa-airport.html)**
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> Donald Trump has spent most of the year aching to get back in front of his supporters. The one time he did, however, the turnout was quite terrible. Following the Tulsa disaster, Trump has seen

Focusing on Portland fearmongering rather than the record number of COVID deaths in Florida today.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1641 "2020-08-01T00:24:18Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> > [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> > Trump proposes to postpone the November election because of COVID-19. [https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1288818160389558273?s=19](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1288818160389558273?s=19)
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> I say do it. Televise the look on his face on Jan 20 when President Pelosi orders him and Pence dragged from their respective residences and dumped in the street.

Looks as though anyone tasked with removing Trump would have to parachute in:

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> Once clearly visible from the street, the White House is now obstructed by a massive ‘anti-climb’ wall.

> **[The White House is building a massive 'anti-climb' wall following protests....](https://www.businessinsider.com/white-house-anti-climb-wall-protests-2020-7)**
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> The "anti-climb" component for a new White House perimeter has been in the works since July 2016, but construction of the wall has ramped up recently.

All this talk of how Trump won’t have any choice about leaving is ignoring the mercenaries/“Homeland Security” troops, whose numbers are no doubt being ever-increased. Sadly, many enlisted personnel in legitimate branches of the military could be persuaded to join these White Power ‘Trump is Lord’ Shock Troops.

Bill Barr is ready to assert that this is all legal. The rest of Trump’s cabinet is helping make this work in their various ways. The reward: full-on oligarchy, with no accountability.

… I get the pleasure people derive from picturing Trump being dragged out. But the likelihood is that he will have plenty of firepower at the ready to mow down anyone who attempts it.

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**Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1642 "2020-08-01T00:46:07Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> Looks as though anyone tasked with removing Trump would have to parachute in:

He sure likes walls.

It’s all so pathetic. Hugely dangerous to our democratic republic, but still. Pathetic.

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**Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1643 "2020-08-01T02:04:32Z")

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Perhaps we can lock them all in and throw over a few 1/4 pounders a day. Problem solved.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1644 "2020-08-01T03:34:18Z")

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Individual 1 says he’s going to ban Tik Tok.  
[https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/31/trump-says-he-will-ban-tiktok-through-executive-action-as-soon-as-saturday.html](https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/31/trump-says-he-will-ban-tiktok-through-executive-action-as-soon-as-saturday.html)?

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1645 "2020-08-01T04:28:39Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> > [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> > Trump proposes to postpone the November election because of COVID-19. [https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1288818160389558273?s=19](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1288818160389558273?s=19)
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> I say do it. Televise the look on his face on Jan 20 when President Pelosi orders him and Pence dragged from their respective residences and dumped in the street.

Is there any proposed scenario in which the Presidential election doesn’t happen, but the Congressional ones _DO?_

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1646 "2020-08-01T04:38:52Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Individual 1 says he’s going to ban Tik Tok.

Doesn’t he still have to sign that big, beautiful healthcare bill he promised two weeks ago?

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1647 "2020-08-01T04:58:45Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Doesn’t he still have to sign that big, beautiful healthcare bill he promised two weeks ago?

He was asked about that at a press conference:

_“A week ago, you said you’re in the process of developing a strategy that’s going to be very powerful involving the coronavirus. Where is that strategy?”_

Here is the word-for-word response given by the President of the United States:

_“I think you’re seeing it, and I think you will see it. And one of the things that we’ve done – it hasn’t been utilized fully yet – but we’re all set to march when it comes to the vaccine. We have great therapeutics that are testing very well. And we have great vaccines from incredible companies – Johnson & Johnson and Pfizer and Merck and all of these great companies, and they’re doing very well - is that they’re doing very well. And the delivery system is all set logistically. We have a general, that’s all he does is deliver things whether it’s soldiers or other items. And I think you’re going to see something that’s going to be spectacular.”_

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 8:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1648 "2020-08-01T08:13:15Z")

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Here it comes - first ban TikTok and if that sticks he can start cutting Americans off from any news source other than what he personally approves.

So this is what it looks like when a wannabe dictator is trying to consolidate power…

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