# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 8:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1649 "2020-08-01T08:24:34Z")

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> [@Broomstick](#):
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> Here it comes - first ban TikTok and if that sticks he can start cutting Americans off from any news source other than what he personally approves.

It’s hard to guess what’s going inside that orange head but when I was reading an article about the TikTok ban, it noted that several American companies have been trying to buy the product. It occurred to me that Trump may be doing a favor for some business crony (probably in exchange for a substantial campaign donation) by cutting off China and driving down the price. Once an American company buys it, Trump can cancel the ban and the value goes back up.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 8:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1650 "2020-08-01T08:38:12Z")

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> [@Broomstick](#):
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> Here it comes - first ban TikTok and if that sticks he can start cutting Americans off from any news source other than what he personally approves.

“If”.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 9:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1651 "2020-08-01T09:01:25Z")

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He’s just pissed off that teenage TikTok users trolled him so badly during his Tulsa Rally debacle.

You know - the rally that ended up spreading Covid all over Oklahoma, and killing Herman Cain.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1652 "2020-08-01T14:19:06Z")

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I’m clearly not up to speed here. The President can permanently shut down any business he cares to by executive order, at any time, with no due process or legal recourse?

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1653 "2020-08-01T14:23:37Z")

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The president wanting to control the economy? Isn’t there a name for that?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1654 "2020-08-01T14:33:41Z")

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Only if it goes the way he wants. Otherwise, not his fault.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1655 "2020-08-01T14:43:37Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Is there any proposed scenario in which the Presidential election doesn’t happen, but the Congressional ones _DO?_

Very unlikely. Elections are held at the state level. It’s hard to imagine states will leave out that one election and hold the ones for their Representatives and Senators. There’s no rationale, legal or medical, for it being safe to do one but not the other. And states will want to hold onto their Congressional representation at the very least.

Hard to imagine any state, even heavily Republican ones, chopping their own legs off simply to pwn the libz or because Trump said ‘pwetty, pwetty pwease’.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1656 "2020-08-01T14:59:56Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> > [@running\_coach](#):
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> > > [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> > > Trump proposes to postpone the November election because of COVID-19. [https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1288818160389558273?s=19](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1288818160389558273?s=19)
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> > I say do it. Televise the look on his face on Jan 20 when President Pelosi orders him and Pence dragged from their respective residences and dumped in the street.
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> Is there any proposed scenario in which the Presidential election doesn’t happen, but the Congressional ones _DO?_

How about: all elections take place on Nov 3, and Congress is elected (popular vote) without controversy. But the presidential race can’t be determined (electoral college) because of Reasons TBD.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1657 "2020-08-01T15:06:00Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> How about: all elections take place on Nov 3, and Congress is elected (popular vote) without controversy. **But the presidential race can’t be determined** (electoral college) because of Reasons TBD.

That doesn’t change the fact that Trump and Pence are out on their ass on Jan. 20, 2021. Order of Succession kicks in.

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1658 "2020-08-01T15:12:35Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Here is the word-for-word response given by the President of the United States:
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> _“I think you’re seeing it, and I think you will see it. And one of the things that we’ve done – it hasn’t been utilized fully yet – but we’re all set to march when it comes to the vaccine. We have great therapeutics that are testing very well. And we have great vaccines from incredible companies – Johnson & Johnson and Pfizer and Merck and all of these great companies, and they’re doing very well - is that they’re doing very well. And the delivery system is all set logistically. We have a general, that’s all he does is deliver things whether it’s soldiers or other items. And I think you’re going to see something that’s going to be spectacular.”_

Obviously fake. Too coherent.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1659 "2020-08-01T15:15:36Z")

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> [@OttoDaFe](#):
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> Obviously fake. Too coherent.-

Yeah, I pasted that paragraph into Word and it rated it grade level 7.7 on the Fleischer Readability scale. Waaaay too high. 🤓

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1660 "2020-08-01T15:28:28Z")

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> Individual 1 says he’s going to ban Tik Tok.

Its because he keeps hearing people say “Tick Tock Mother Fucker”, and he can’t figure out what it means.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1661 "2020-08-01T17:41:32Z")

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Christ, why even go there? Florida is an absolute shit show. He could have gone back to the Dakotas and filled a union hall or something. The firing of Brad Parscale might not save him from himself.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1662 "2020-08-01T17:44:35Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> Christ, why even go there?

[Golf.](https://www.tampabay.com/florida-politics/buzz/2020/07/31/trump-visits-tampa-and-its-a-different-pandemic-world/)

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1663 "2020-08-01T18:24:15Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> He’s just pissed off that teenage TikTok users trolled him so badly during his Tulsa Rally debacle.
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> You know - the rally that ended up spreading Covid all over Oklahoma, and killing Herman Cain.

One of the biggest Tik Tok celebrities is a girl who trolls Individual 1 by lip syncing his comments.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1664 "2020-08-01T18:29:44Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> One of the biggest Tik Tok celebrities is a girl who trolls Individual 1 by lip syncing his comments.

The “girl” (Sarah Cooper) is 42 years old.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1665 "2020-08-01T18:33:41Z")

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> [@needscoffee](#):
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> The “girl” (Sarah Cooper) is 42 years old.

Thanks for the correction. For some reason, I got the impression that she was a teenager.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1666 "2020-08-01T18:38:15Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> Christ, why even go there? Florida is an absolute shit show. He could have gone back to the Dakotas and filled a union hall or something. The firing of Brad Parscale might not save him from himself.

Trump refuses to see who the problem figure is in his administration. Even when he bottoms out, it’s “people don’t like me” not “I’m doing a terrible job”. He’s absolutely convinced he’s great. The worst he can think of himself is that other people don’t understand his greatness.

So if there are problems, it must be due to somebody else who’s interfering with his greatness. Fire that person and remove the obstacle and everything will be prefect.

This means he blamed Parscale for the failure in Tulsa. And because he removed Parscale, he was sure that this rally in Tampa would be huge. The way a Trump rally is supposed to be.

I think we’re seeing this in Trump’s response to Covid19. He just keeps thinking this isn’t supposed to be happened to his Presidency. His Presidency is supposed to be perfect. In his mind, Covid19 should just go away.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1667 "2020-08-01T18:39:49Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> > [@needscoffee](#):
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> > The “girl” (Sarah Cooper) is 42 years old.
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> Thanks for the correction. For some reason, I got the impression that she was a teenager

I know, I was thinking she was early 20’s. Good genes, I guess!

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/1668 "2020-08-01T18:45:28Z")

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> [@needscoffee](#):
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> Good genes

[But she doesn’t look orange…](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-tan-good-genes_n_5c572f06e4b0871047547cf9) 😁

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