# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1005
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2018, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20085 "2018-05-07T20:40:02Z")
> [@SaneBill](#): > > Trump pays to Jews to spy on American citizens. Sad. It’s worse than just that. He did it to discredit the people who negotiated the agreement with Iran, so he could scuttle it and maybe start a war… Aides to Trump hired an Israeli private intelligence agency (Black Cube) to orchestrate a “dirty ops” campaign against key individuals from the Obama administration who helped negotiate the Iran nuclear deal. The idea was that people acting for Trump would discredit those who were pivotal in selling the deal, making it easier to pull out of it. Trump’s team went to foreign agents to request espionage efforts be made against members of the administration they replaced so that, in their thinking, the Americans involved in the nuclear deal would be discredited. Of course, Black Cube denies that Trump aides hired them to dig up dirt. It’s “just a coincidence” that Black Cube also ran dirty ops for Cambridge Analytica, whose co-founder is Trump’s then-chief STRATEGIST, Steve Bannon. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2018, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20086 "2018-05-07T20:42:55Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > The Bill and Crooked Hillary Foundation please. Oh that would be priceless! ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2018, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20087 "2018-05-07T20:46:02Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > Exactly: all these sweeping comparisons depend crucially on exactly what aspects of life are being compared. > Moreover, higher education was much more affordable, [job security and likelihood of long-term employment was much better](https://www.princeton.edu/ceps/workingpapers/171farber.pdf), government support for basic scientific research and ambitious enterprises like moon missions was higher, religious fundamentalists weren’t mounting large-scale anti-science and anti-reproductive-rights crusades, etc. > > I think there have been huge areas of progress since the '70s in technology and consequent improvements in communications, medical breakthroughs, increased environmental awareness, etc. But whether that adds up to a better overall lifestyle depends very much on what you mean by “lifestyle”. This. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2018, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20088 "2018-05-07T20:50:50Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Of course, Black Cube denies that Trump aides hired them to dig up dirt. It’s “just a coincidence” that Black Cube also ran dirty ops for Cambridge Analytica, whose co-founder is Trump’s then-chief STRATEGIST, Steve Bannon. They also worked for Harvey Weinstein to discredit his accusers. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2018, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20089 "2018-05-07T20:52:27Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Because greed has a cap, a guy who has ten million dollars has _enough_, and will not debase himself or his country to have twenty million. This is why so many of our Founding Fuckups believed that public officials should not be paid, because government is best when its controlled by gentlemen of property and substance. > > By a happy coincidence, themselves. But then again, we have seen that greed has NO cap. It is NEVER enough. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2018, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20090 "2018-05-07T20:54:42Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Sometimes I wonder if exposure to the words of Trump actually kills brain cells in the reader/listener. I’d rather listen to Vogon poetry. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2018, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20091 "2018-05-07T20:57:19Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Which people? the base, the Deplorables. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2018, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20092 "2018-05-07T22:51:26Z")
I just ran across this on Twitter ([Twitter link](https://twitter.com/annalecta/status/993597560714596352)) - essentially Melania’s anti-bullying campaign has put out some material, touted as, “a booklet by First Lady Melania Trump and the Federal Trade Commission.” It’s the same booklet that the Obama administration put out in 2014, but with a forward purportedly written by the first lady added in and that stupid “Be Best” thing tacked on at the end. [Melania’s Booklet](https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Talking-with-kids-about-being-online-_2018.pdf) (pdf) [Obama’s Booklet](https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/pdf-0001-netcetera.pdf) (pdf) ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2018, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20093 "2018-05-07T22:54:16Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > the base, the Deplorables. No. They won’t. Nothing will make them turn on him. This was the original exchange: > [@](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > Originally Posted by asahi > > … If Mueller interferes with Trump, the same way that Ken Starr interfered with Clinton, then the people will turn on the interfering party. > > Which people? ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20094 "2018-05-08T01:22:58Z")
Seriously. The people handling Melania Trump had one job. Do not plagiarize from Obama. And they [couldn’t pull it off](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/may/07/melania-trump-plagiarism-row-be-best-campaign). ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20095 "2018-05-08T01:26:23Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Seriously. The people handling Melania Trump had one job. Do not plagiarize from Obama. And they [couldn’t pull it off](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/may/07/melania-trump-plagiarism-row-be-best-campaign). I’d be happy if they’d just fix her eye makeup so it doesn’t look like she has narrow rectangular eyes. Or have her work “moose and squirrel” into every sentence. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20096 "2018-05-08T05:26:34Z")
A new poll shows Melania with a higher approval rating than President Fuckface. I guess now he’ll finally agree to that divorce. EDIT: I second having her work “moose and squirrel” into every sentence. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20097 "2018-05-08T13:31:19Z")
I’m fully expecting Trump to withdraw from the Iran deal today, for some reasons that make sense to him, I’m sure. When he does, I think it would be hilarious if Kim Jong-Un announces that the US has demonstrated that it can’t be trusted to abide by treaties and therefore the summit is off. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20098 "2018-05-08T13:39:34Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > I’m fully expecting Trump to withdraw from the Iran deal today, for some reasons that make sense to him, I’m sure. > > When he does, I think it would be hilarious if Kim Jong-Un announces that the US has demonstrated that it can’t be trusted to abide by treaties and therefore the summit is off. His reason can be summed up in one word. Obama. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20099 "2018-05-08T13:43:30Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > for some reasons that make sense to him, I’m sure. Obama did it, and it would piss off the libruls. That’s all the reasons he ever needs. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20100 "2018-05-08T14:48:29Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > I’m fully expecting Trump to withdraw from the Iran deal today, for some reasons that make sense to him, I’m sure. > > … I fully expect him to withdraw so he can change his mind in a few days, then change it back, thusly always staying in the headlines. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20101 "2018-05-08T14:57:39Z")
Trump will pretend to withdraw while secretly sending Ollie North to sell Iran weapons and NRA memberships. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20102 "2018-05-08T15:05:53Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Or have her work “moose and squirrel” into every sentence. > [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > and that stupid “Be Best” thing tacked on at the end. In trussa, no use defeeneet art tickle. Dahlink. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20103 "2018-05-08T15:13:29Z")
When I hear “Donald and Melania” vs “Boris and Natasha”, to my ear they sound exactly the same. I just cannot hear a difference. ---
**Author:** ![sciurophobic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@sciurophobic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sciurophobic)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20104 "2018-05-08T15:37:56Z")
> [@SaneBill](#): > > Trump pays to Jews to spy on American citizens. Sad. Why do you find it necessary to point out they were Jews? Isn’t it enough to say they were foreign spies? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1004) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1006)