# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2018, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20285 "2018-05-13T22:11:37Z")

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Mike Pompeo: “I think Chairman Kim [Jong Un] shares the objectives of the American people, I am convinced of that”

> **[Pompeo Says Kim Jong Un ‘Shares The Objectives Of The American People’](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/pompeo-says-kim-jong-un-shares-the-objectives-of-the-american-people)**
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> Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, fresh from a trip to North Korea and a meeting with ruler Kim Jong-un, claimed Sunday that Kim shares the United States’ objectives. “When I said earlier this week that…

If the objective of the American people is to get rid of Donald Trump, then I agree.

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2018, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20286 "2018-05-13T22:16:37Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> Why don’t we all just get together, and all shop at the same place:  
> [http://www.podiumandlecternstore.com/](http://www.podiumandlecternstore.com/)

I thought, for sure, that is going to be a made up URL…

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2018, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20287 "2018-05-13T22:19:00Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Mike Pompeo: “I think Chairman Kim [Jong Un] shares the objectives of the American people, I am convinced of that”  
> [Pompeo Says Kim Jong Un ‘Shares The Objectives Of The American People’ - TPM – Talking Points Memo](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/pompeo-says-kim-jong-un-shares-the-objectives-of-the-american-people)
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> If the objective of the American people is to get rid of Donald Trump, then I agree.

Well, yeah.

But seriously, it’s a weird thing for a US Secretary of State to say–a brutal dictator shares the objectives of the American people?

I sometimes suspect that many of these bully-boys (Pompeo, John Kelly, John Bolton, etc.) genuinely believe that authoritarian rule is the finest possible form of government.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2018, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20288 "2018-05-13T22:59:08Z")

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Imagine the reaction from Fox News if Obama or anyone in his administration had spoken about Kim the way Trump and his people do.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2018, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20289 "2018-05-13T23:31:04Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Imagine the reaction from Fox News if Obama or anyone in his administration had spoken about Kim the way Trump and his people do.

Hell, as was pointed out during the election, imagine the reaction if Obama had had several children with multiple wives. Talk about white privilege!

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2018, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20290 "2018-05-13T23:36:16Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Imagine the reaction from Fox News if Obama or anyone in his administration had spoken about Kim the way Trump and his people do.

Especially if Obama did it while wearing a tan suit!

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2018, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20291 "2018-05-14T00:08:06Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> But seriously, it’s a weird thing for a US Secretary of State to say–a brutal dictator shares the objectives of the American people?

In a very limited way – they both agree that millions of Koreans dying would be a Bad Thing.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2018, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20292 "2018-05-14T00:24:51Z")

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CFSG moves boldly to protect vulnerable jobs [in China](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/13/business/trump-vows-to-save-jobs-at-chinas-zte-lost-after-us-sanctions.html).

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**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2018, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20293 "2018-05-14T00:51:36Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> CFSG moves boldly to protect vulnerable jobs [in China](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/13/business/trump-vows-to-save-jobs-at-chinas-zte-lost-after-us-sanctions.html).

I was coming to post this, but I had to reseach it because I was half-convinced I was being whoosed on Facebook…

No it is real. Our Leader actually did text:

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> President Xi of China, and I, are working together to give massive Chinese phone company, ZTE, a way to get back into business, fast. Too many jobs in China lost. Commerce Department has been instructed to get it done!

Ahem.

One, it was his Department of Commerce, per the articles I read, that put the ban in place in April, so it was a Trump policy he’s reversing. And from the Reuters article,([In concession, Trump will help China's ZTE 'get back into business' | Reuters](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-china-zte/in-concession-trump-will-help-chinas-zte-get-back-into-business-idUSKCN1IE0QI)), I quote:

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> ZTE suspended its main operations after the U.S. Commerce Department banned American companies from selling to the firm for seven years as punishment for ZTE breaking an agreement reached after it was caught illegally shipping U.S. goods to **Iran**.

Bolding and Underline are mine. Aren’t we supposed to be mad at Iran and be all about denying them stuff?

I await the inevitable explanation that isn’t an explanation from his supporters.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2018, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20294 "2018-05-14T00:58:19Z")

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Make China Great Again!

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2018, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20295 "2018-05-14T01:57:04Z")

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> [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](#):
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> I await the inevitable explanation that isn’t an explanation from his supporters.

[Homer Simpson]  
Everything looks bad if you _remember_ it  
[/Homer Simpson]

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2018, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20296 "2018-05-14T02:12:21Z")

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Wasn’t sure whether to put this in the SRID thread (because the idea is still being “proposed”) or here: John Sno-Cone-'Stache Bolton floats out his butt-hurt reaction to Europe not siding with the US’s tail-between-the-legging of the Iran Nuclear Deal by [maybe imposing sanctions on those bad bad European countries who’ll still do business with Iran.](https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/13/politics/john-bolton-iran-deal-cnntv/index.html)

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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2018, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20297 "2018-05-14T02:29:28Z")

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Alt-right Barbie of Fox News tried to back up John Kelly’s immigrant comments.

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> .@TomiLahren: “You don’t just come into this country with low skills, low education, not understanding the language and come into our country because someone says it makes them feel nice. That’s not what this country is based on.”

A genealogist looked into both Kelly and Lahren’s [background](https://www.rawstory.com/2018/05/genealogist-digs-tomi-lahrens-family-tree-attacks-immigrants-results-hilarious/)…

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> Mendelsohn took a deep dive into Kelly’s background, finding Kelly’s great grandfather lived in America, undocumented, for 18 years and could not “read, write, or speak English.”
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> And now she’s doing the same with Lahren’s family tree, and, unsurprisingly, it looks a lot like John Kelly’s.
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> According to Mendelsohn, “the 1930 census says Tomi’s 3x great-grandmother had been here for 41 years and still spoke German.”

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2018, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20298 "2018-05-14T02:57:24Z")

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> [@jasg](#):
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> …A genealogist looked into both Kelly and Lahren’s [background](https://www.rawstory.com/2018/05/genealogist-digs-tomi-lahrens-family-tree-attacks-immigrants-results-hilarious/)…

These losers are such fucking hypocrites.

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> Quote:  
> .@TomiLahren: “You don’t just come into this country with low skills, low education, not understanding the language and come into our country because someone says it makes them feel nice. That’s not what this country is based on.”

BTW, that’s EXACTLY what this country is based on. :dubious:

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**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2018, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20299 "2018-05-14T03:38:20Z")

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Trump’s next executive order: replace “Give me your tired, your poor…” with “Go back to your shithole countries so we have room for the Normegians.”

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2018, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20300 "2018-05-14T04:16:29Z")

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> [@HelenGawn](#):
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> Trump’s next executive order: replace “Give me your tired, your poor…” with “Go back to your shithole countries so we have room for the Normegians.”

Should be easy enough - he’s wanted to bullldoze the Statue of Liberty for years to build a golf resort.

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**Author:** ![Batano](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b487fb/32.png) [@Batano](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Batano)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2018, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20301 "2018-05-14T04:25:55Z")

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> [@HelenGawn](#):
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> Trump’s next executive order: replace “Give me your tired, your poor…” with “Go back to your shithole countries so we have room for the Normegians.”

Norm!

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**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2018, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20302 "2018-05-14T12:01:59Z")

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> [@HelenGawn](#):
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> Trump’s next executive order: replace “Give me your tired, your poor…” with “Go back to your shithole countries so we have room for the Normegians.”

Well apparently we’re not getting fast tracked for green cards, or I’d have heard back by now.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2018, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20303 "2018-05-14T19:01:52Z")

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The White House released a transcript of Jared Kushner’s comments at the opening of the new Embassy in Jerusalem, editing out his comments that said, "As we have seen from the protests of the last month and even today, those provoking violence are part of the problem and not part of the solution.”

> **[White House Edits Transcript of Jared Kushner Calling Protestors in Gaza...](https://www.alternet.org/2018/05/white-house-edits-transcript-jared-kushner-calling-protestors-gaza-part-problem)**
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> The White House tried to quietly edit Jared Kushner's controversial comment - but reporters have the receipts.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2018, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20304 "2018-05-14T19:29:59Z")

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Melania has been hospitalized at Walter Reed for a kidney condition.

> **[Melania Trump undergoes kidney surgery at Walter Reed medical center | CNN...](https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/14/politics/melania-trump-surgery/index.html)**
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> First lady Melania Trump underwent kidney surgery Monday at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center, according to a statement from her office.

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