# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1019
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20365 "2018-05-16T14:37:45Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > So many people miss this. The world is playing our moron and he’s the only one who doesn’t see it. I don’t play poker, but isn’t there some axiom about “If you don’t know who the mark is, it’s you”? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20366 "2018-05-16T14:41:43Z")
And “If you think everyone else is an a-hole, it’s actually you.” ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20367 "2018-05-16T15:33:31Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > The world is playing our moron and he’s the only one who doesn’t see it. Among the leaders, maybe, but there are entirely too many voters in this country who also do not see it. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20368 "2018-05-16T16:06:45Z")
[Donald Trump Jr. says he was “candid and forthright” in answering questions by the Senate Judiciary Committee in the Russia investigation.](https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2018-05-16/the-latest-dems-say-transcripts-dont-tell-the-whole-story) Repeatedly claiming “I don’t recall” in various ways is “candid and forthright”? ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20369 "2018-05-16T16:16:55Z")
What, you’re claiming the man doesn’t have the mind of a shoe and the memory of an atomic decay? ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20370 "2018-05-16T16:45:34Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Seeing how soon this happened after Kim’s second meeting with Xi, it’s like I said before: Xi is teaching Kim how to play Trump. No. This is Xi playing Kim and Trump like a couple of suckers that they really are. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20371 "2018-05-16T16:55:30Z")
Sarah Huckabee, asked about North Korea’s threat to pull out of talks, said, “This is something that we fully expected.” Really? So all of that Peace Prize talk was just for show? > **[White House Says It Expected North Korean Threat to Cancel Peace Talks |...](https://www.nationalreview.com/news/north-korea-threatens-trump-white-house-says-expected/)** > > Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said the administration remains ‘hopeful’ that the summit meeting between President Trump and Kim Jong-un will happen. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20372 "2018-05-16T17:22:10Z")
Tony Perkins, the head of the Family Research Council (which the SPLC calls a hate group - [https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/family-research-council](https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/family-research-council)) was just appointed to the U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom. He began his term on the commission by comparing transgender people to people who think they’re birds and jump off of buildings. [Tony Perkins compares transgender people to a suicidal bird-man – ThinkProgress](https://thinkprogress.org/tony-perkins-transgender-suicidal-3ffa04606ac3/) ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20373 "2018-05-16T17:30:42Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Tony Perkins, the head of the Family Research Council (which the SPLC calls a hate group - [https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/family-research-council](https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/family-research-council)) was just appointed to the U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom. He began his term on the commission by comparing transgender people to people who think they’re birds and jump off of buildings. > [Tony Perkins compares transgender people to a suicidal bird-man – ThinkProgress](https://thinkprogress.org/tony-perkins-transgender-suicidal-3ffa04606ac3/) You have to be faking this story and those sites. No way can this be true. ---
**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20374 "2018-05-16T18:25:06Z")
Damn, the guy’s a psycho :eek: ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20375 "2018-05-16T18:27:38Z")
He wouldn’t hurt a fly! ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20376 "2018-05-16T19:15:55Z")
> [@wonky](#): > > “But given the chance, many Hoopers Island residents say they’d vote for Trump again. They believe that if he only knew about their plight, he would change his policy.” The Hoopers Island residents want Trump to recognize their plight, but how many of them are willing to extend that line of thinking the other way? They voted for someone who cut the number of H-2B visas and now they can’t get the crab pickers they need. What makes them think that crab picking is the only industry supported by those visas? I’m sure there are others. If they want Trump to recognize their plight, they should start by recognizing the plight of all the other industries they were willing to screw. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20377 "2018-05-16T19:21:15Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > The Hoopers Island residents want Trump to recognize their plight, but how many of them are willing to extend that line of thinking the other way? They voted for someone who cut the number of H-2B visas and now they can’t get the crab pickers they need. What makes them think that crab picking is the only industry supported by those visas? I’m sure there are others. If they want Trump to recognize their plight, they should start by recognizing the plight of all the other industries they were willing to screw. But they are special, with unique problems that are not faced by other people in the country. Anyone else who is having problems is doing so only due to their own poor choices, but these fine people just need a bit of understanding from the govt. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20378 "2018-05-16T19:31:45Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > But they are special, with unique problems that are not faced by other people in the country. Anyone else who is having problems is doing so only due to their own poor choices, but these fine people just need a bit of understanding from the govt. Reminds me of the Trump voter whose illegal immigrant husband was deported after Trump was elected. “I thought he meant OTHER people, not me!” ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20379 "2018-05-16T19:36:43Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > Reminds me of the Trump voter whose illegal immigrant husband was deported after Trump was elected. “I thought he meant OTHER people, not me!” [Aye](https://twitter.com/cavalorn/status/654934442549620736?lang=en): > [@Adrian Bott](#): > > ‘I never thought leopards would eat MY face,’ sobs woman who voted for the Leopards Eating People’s Faces Party. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20380 "2018-05-16T19:38:58Z")
[In veiled shot at Trump, Tillerson warns democracy at risk](https://apnews.com/3c000c77e24443668d8c6f0886125adb/In-veiled-shot-at-Trump,-Tillerson-warns-democracy-at-risk): > [@](#): > > In remarks to graduates of the Virginia Military Institute, Tillerson lamented assaults on facts that he said would lead to a loss of freedom if not countered. And he said that only societies able to pursue the truth and challenge alternate realities can be truly free. > > “When we as people, a free people, go wobbly on the truth, even on what may seem to be the most trivial of matters, we go wobbly on America,” Tillerson said. “If we do not as Americans confront the crisis of ethics and integrity in our society among our leaders in both public and private sector, and regrettably at times in the nonprofit sector, then American democracy as we know it is entering its twilight years.” And he didn’t stop there: > [@](#): > > “We must never take these long-held allies for granted,” he said, in apparent reference to Trump overruling the advice of his former top diplomat and others and withdrawing from some international agreements, threatening import tariffs. > > On free trade, which Trump has questioned, Tillerson noted that much of the developed world saw it as a net positive. “But many here at home still have a way to go to fully embrace the global economy and to recognize that with these changes come both challenges and opportunities,” he said. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20381 "2018-05-16T20:07:28Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > [In veiled shot at Trump, Tillerson warns democracy at risk](https://apnews.com/3c000c77e24443668d8c6f0886125adb/In-veiled-shot-at-Trump,-Tillerson-warns-democracy-at-risk):And he didn’t stop there: Well, maybe Captain Obvious of the SS Hindsight should have thought about this before choosing to serve in the cabinet of a fucking traitor. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20382 "2018-05-16T20:42:40Z")
Betsy DeVos says that state laws prohibiting giving public funds to religious schools originated in 19th century anti-Catholic bias, and should be relegated to the ash heap of history. > **[DeVos: State Bans on Public Money to Religious Schools Should Go To 'Ash Heap...](https://www.edweek.org/policy-politics/devos-state-bans-on-public-money-to-religious-schools-should-go-to-ash-heap-of-history/2018/05)** > > U.S. Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos railed against state constitutional prohibitions on public funds going to religious institutions in a speech to the Alfred E. Smith Foundation in New York City. ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20383 "2018-05-16T21:57:53Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Tony Perkins, the head of the Family Research Council (which the SPLC calls a hate group - [https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/family-research-council](https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/family-research-council)) was just appointed to the U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom. He began his term on the commission by comparing transgender people to people who think they’re birds and jump off of buildings. > [Tony Perkins compares transgender people to a suicidal bird-man – ThinkProgress](https://thinkprogress.org/tony-perkins-transgender-suicidal-3ffa04606ac3/) Jonathan Swift takes his hat off to Trump. No satirist could outdo this administration. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20384 "2018-05-16T22:07:33Z")
Trump stops dog-whistling, [goes full Hitler;](https://www.rawstory.com/2018/05/arent-people-animals-trumps-anti-immigrant-rhetoric-reaches-scary-new-intensity/) > [@](#): > > “These aren’t people, these are animals,” Trump said in view of C-SPAN’s cameras. > > “We’re taking people out of the country—you wouldn’t believe how bad these people are,” he said. “We’re taking them out of the country at a level and a rate that’s never happened before.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1018) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1020)