# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1020
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20385 "2018-05-16T23:18:16Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Thump thought Kim liked him and was his new bestie. If Kim calls him a loser and decides to uninvite him to the Grownups Table… _uh-oh_. Will thump turn on his heel in a huff and walk away hurling insults over his shoulder (“Can’t trust those Orientals!”) or will he get on his knees and suck harder? I predict a big ol’ temper tantrum. > Like I said before, Kim is playing him like a fiddle. The difference between this situation and other the international Trumpian farces we’ve lived through, is that this time the Nobel Prize is in play. Or so Trump believes. There is _nothing_ Kim can ask of Trump that Trump won’t give him: missile launch codes; complete withdrawal of all US forces from South Korea; heck, even the entire Pacific Fleet. Trump will hand them over. Obama has a Nobel. Trump is determined to get one—bigger and better than Obama’s! And he cares nothing how severely he harms US security in the process. > [@Monty](#): > > Seeing how soon this happened after Kim’s second meeting with Xi, it’s like I said before: Xi is teaching Kim how to play Trump. Absolutely. And as obvious as this may be to any person of normal intelligence, there is literally NO way this piece of information can enter Trump’s brain. ---
**Author:** ![Grim\_Render](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@Grim\_Render](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grim_Render)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20386 "2018-05-17T00:51:37Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > The difference between this situation and other the international Trumpian farces we’ve lived through, is that this time the Nobel Prize is in play. Or so Trump believes. > > There is _nothing_ Kim can ask of Trump that Trump won’t give him: missile launch codes; complete withdrawal of all US forces from South Korea; heck, even the entire Pacific Fleet. Trump will hand them over. > > Obama has a Nobel. Trump is determined to get one—bigger and better than Obama’s! And he cares nothing how severely he harms US security in the process. If Trump can deliver peace on the Korean peninsula, that is not impossible. Some pretty repugnant individuals have gotten the prize for ending long-standing conflicts. However, if his trade war and sanctions screw over our economy, he isn’t getting any prize regardless of Korea. I hope someone quietly explains that to him. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20387 "2018-05-17T01:02:18Z")
> [@Grim\_Render](#): > > If Trump can deliver peace on the Korean peninsula, that is not impossible. Some pretty repugnant individuals have gotten the prize for ending long-standing conflicts. However, if his trade war and sanctions screw over our economy, he isn’t getting any prize regardless of Korea. I hope someone quietly explains that to him. I hope so, too–but I can’t think who could possibly get through to him. Trump tends to become obsessed with anything Obama has or did; the Nobel Prize appears to be one of those fixations. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20388 "2018-05-17T01:02:20Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > The Hoopers Island residents want Trump to recognize their plight, but how many of them are willing to extend that line of thinking the other way? They voted for someone who cut the number of H-2B visas and now they can’t get the crab pickers they need. What makes them think that crab picking is the only industry supported by those visas? I’m sure there are others. If they want Trump to recognize their plight, they should start by recognizing the plight of all the other industries they were willing to screw. There is something a bit disturbing here, talking about screwing and crab pickers. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20389 "2018-05-17T01:08:03Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Trump stops dog-whistling, [goes full Hitler;](https://www.rawstory.com/2018/05/arent-people-animals-trumps-anti-immigrant-rhetoric-reaches-scary-new-intensity/) This is so utterly appalling…as others have said here, I’m stunned but not surprised. (I am surprised that this wasn’t the lead story on any of the news I’ve heard this afternoon.) Trump was probably in a cranky mood because he realized his Nobel Peace Prize was at risk. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20390 "2018-05-17T03:07:16Z")
Negotiations with China are going swimmingly. “Sources say Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin and trade adviser Peter Navarro had a public shouting match in Beijing.” Navarro is the **more** evil one in this pairing. He’s getting left out (sort of/maybe) as too hard line which would jeopardize [del] Trump companies from scoring large loans/bribes [/del] delicate talks. Politico and others - [Tensions erupt among Trump trade officials ahead of China talks - POLITICO](https://www.politico.com/story/2018/05/16/trump-trade-china-591201) ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20391 "2018-05-17T04:07:43Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > I hope so, too–but I can’t think who could possibly get through to him. Trump tends to become obsessed with anything Obama has or did; the Nobel Prize appears to be one of those fixations. Didn’t someone in the know say that the only thing Trump checked for on previous executive orders is if Obama signed them? ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20392 "2018-05-17T06:38:26Z")
> [@Adrian Bott](#): > > ‘I never thought leopards would eat MY face,’ sobs woman who voted for the Leopards Eating People’s Faces Party. That, I get. I need to squint a little, but I get it. What I don’t get is ‘I never thought leopards would eat MY face,’ sobs woman who voted for the Leopards Eating People’s Faces Party, while holding up a ‘Vote LEPFP’ sign. She said she absolutely will vote for them again. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20393 "2018-05-17T07:53:18Z")
I’ve mentioned a time or two that I don’t particularly care for our elected president. I believe my exact words to my family were “I’d rather pound my nuts flat with a wooden hammer than have that man in office.” So I was surprised when, in today’s mail, I received an envelope with “President Donald J Trump” in the return address spot. I opened it up, and found out that I was invited to participate in “my first OFFICIAL Presidential Advisory Board State of the Nation Survey.” The survey questions are phrased so that, whatever I answer, he looks good and Democrats look like the bad guys. They were mostly yes/no questions, but one or two had boxes marked “other,” and an empty line. I took the opportunity to write in my own thoughts. For instance, one asked what issue he should focus on, moving forward. I wrote in, “hopefully, being fitted for an orange jumpsuit with DoC on the back of it. Or, since he loves Sheriff Joe Arpaio so much, maybe they can be bunkmates in Tent City together.” ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 9:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20394 "2018-05-17T09:31:58Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > That, I get. I need to squint a little, but I get it. > > What I don’t get is > ‘I never thought leopards would eat MY face,’ sobs woman who voted for the Leopards Eating People’s Faces Party, while holding up a ‘Vote LEPFP’ sign. She said she absolutely will vote for them again. Making Face-Eating Leopards Great Again! ---
**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20395 "2018-05-17T10:36:40Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > That, I get. I need to squint a little, but I get it. > > What I don’t get is > ‘I never thought leopards would eat MY face,’ sobs woman who voted for the Leopards Eating People’s Faces Party, while holding up a ‘Vote LEPFP’ sign. She said she absolutely will vote for them again. The Internet being what it is, of course the LEPFP already has a [nifty logo](http://nightvaleinspirationalquotes.tumblr.com/) It would be awesome if someone with too much money on their hands would run for office under the banner of the LEPFP. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20396 "2018-05-17T14:59:39Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > That, I get. I need to squint a little, but I get it. > > What I don’t get is > ‘I never thought leopards would eat MY face,’ sobs woman who voted for the Leopards Eating People’s Faces Party, while holding up a ‘Vote LEPFP’ sign. She said she absolutely will vote for them again. Make Americans (taste) Great Again! > [@Superdude](#): > > I’ve mentioned a time or two that I don’t particularly care for our elected president. I believe my exact words to my family were “I’d rather pound my nuts flat with a wooden hammer than have that man in office.” > > So I was surprised when, in today’s mail, I received an envelope with “President Donald J Trump” in the return address spot. I opened it up, and found out that I was invited to participate in “my first OFFICIAL Presidential Advisory Board State of the Nation Survey.” > > The survey questions are phrased so that, whatever I answer, he looks good and Democrats look like the bad guys. > > They were mostly yes/no questions, but one or two had boxes marked “other,” and an empty line. I took the opportunity to write in my own thoughts. For instance, one asked what issue he should focus on, moving forward. I wrote in, “hopefully, being fitted for an orange jumpsuit with DoC on the back of it. Or, since he loves Sheriff Joe Arpaio so much, maybe they can be bunkmates in Tent City together.” I assume that there was also an envelope in which to place your check for your campaign donation. That’s the only part of the survey they look at. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20397 "2018-05-17T15:11:56Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > I assume that there was also an envelope in which to place your check for your campaign donation. I don’t have my checkbook handy, but I have some Monopoly money lying around… ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20398 "2018-05-17T15:13:04Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > I don’t have my checkbook handy, but I have some Monopoly money lying around… Don’t do that. You might get SWATted for passing “counterfeit currency” ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20399 "2018-05-17T15:16:35Z")
> [@Grim\_Render](#): > > If Trump can deliver peace on the Korean peninsula, that is not impossible. Some pretty repugnant individuals have gotten the prize for ending long-standing conflicts. But Trump is absolutely loathed in Europe so I don’t think they will give it to him. In fact I could see them giving a joint prize to the leaders of North and South Korea, China, and Japan, just so that they could leave his name conspicuously absent. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20400 "2018-05-17T15:18:30Z")
> [@smithsb](#): > > Negotiations with China are going swimmingly. > > “Sources say Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin and trade adviser Peter Navarro had a public shouting match in Beijing.” > > Navarro is the **more** evil one in this pairing. He’s getting left out (sort of/maybe) as too hard line which would jeopardize [del] Trump companies from scoring large loans/bribes [/del] delicate talks. > > Politico and others - [https://www.politico.com/story/2018/05/16/trump-trade-china-591201](https://www.politico.com/story/2018/05/16/trump-trade-china-591201) Don’t know if anyone remembers this, but When Kushner found out he was going to be in charge of China trade policy, he ordered a book from Amazon then called the author ( Navarro) and offered him a job in the Trump Administration. [http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/328969-report-kushner-found-trump-economic-advisor-navarro-by-browsing](http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/328969-report-kushner-found-trump-economic-advisor-navarro-by-browsing) Jeez ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20401 "2018-05-17T16:00:48Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > But Trump is absolutely loathed in Europe so I don’t think they will give it to him. In fact I could see them giving a joint prize to the leaders of North and South Korea, China, and Japan, just so that they could leave his name conspicuously absent. What would be funniest is if they gave it to Obama and issued no other public statement about it. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20402 "2018-05-17T16:02:50Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > Don’t know if anyone remembers this, but > > When Kushner found out he was going to be in charge of China trade policy, he ordered a book from Amazon then called the author ( Navarro) and offered him a job in the Trump Administration. > > [Report: Kushner found Trump advisor Navarro by browsing Amazon](http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/328969-report-kushner-found-trump-economic-advisor-navarro-by-browsing) > > Jeez Is it just me or does that seem like the way that a not-particularly bright, spoiled rich kid would handle something he didn’t know how to do and didn’t really want to do anyway? ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20403 "2018-05-17T16:11:46Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > Don’t know if anyone remembers this, but > > When Kushner found out he was going to be in charge of China trade policy, he ordered a book from Amazon then called the author ( Navarro) and offered him a job in the Trump Administration. > > [http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/328969-report-kushner-found-trump-economic-advisor-navarro-by-browsing](http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/328969-report-kushner-found-trump-economic-advisor-navarro-by-browsing) > > Jeez That really surprises me. They have someone on staff that can read and write? ---
**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20404 "2018-05-17T16:20:59Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > That really surprises me. They have someone on staff that can read and write? Who said anything about reading or writing? For all we know he simply bought the book that had a few gold stars in the rating. Who am I kidding? I doubt he actually bought the book. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1019) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1021)