# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1023
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20445 "2018-05-18T14:14:20Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > This has been one of my biggest gripes from Day One: treating him as normal. > > To go back to my familiar conceit: he’s like Grandpa who comes to Sunday dinner with his underpants on his head. The first few times he does it, people are shocked and dismayed. Then it becomes Normal for Him and people say, “Oh, that’s just Grandpa.” > > Well now some (not all) of the commentators slide right past the fact that there are underpants on thump’s head, and they’re analyzing the underpants! “Well, briefs, not boxers–whaddayaknow. Yea, but are those Hanes or Jockeys?” > > PEOPLE, THE MAN IS RUNNING AROUND WITH UNDERWEAR ON HIS HEAD AND YOU’RE ACTING LIKE IT’S NORMAL! > > **Enipla** , this is soooo interesting! I wish you’re start one of those “Ask the guy who names streets” threads. My first husband and I used to throw a 60-mile motor paper route and I was fascinated (and driven nuts) by street naming issues. I’ll bet you have some more really interesting stories! [/aside] I agree that this is a BIG problem that this is becoming normalized. A moron for president. Ho-hum, what’s for lunch. Road naming isn’t quite interesting enough for it’s own thread IMHO. But I will throw out another story that may clear up confusion about why that road is named what it is. The county I work for had many gold mines back in the late 1800’s. These gold mine claims had to be surveyed. For a survey for an area, you need to have place to start from. A monument. One surveyor used a tree ( :smack: I won’t go into what a bad idea that was). The road that leads up to that (now long gone tree) is named ‘Bearing Tree Road’. The surveyor took his bearings off of that tree. Often, it’s just history. Sue may have ridden her horse down a trail a lot. So it now, after many years it is called Sue’s Road. And, after time it changed to Suze. No one remembers Sue and her horse. A lot of road names are very localized and historical. Even if it’s just ‘Sue Road’ Anywho, I’m out of here in about an hour for a week in Key West. When I get back online, please have the impeachment process started. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20446 "2018-05-18T14:29:56Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > …Anywho, I’m out of here in about an hour for a week in Key West. When I get back online, please have the impeachment process started. Aye aye, Captain! \ While you’re in Florida, suggest you set a bag of dog shit on fire on the front porch at Mar-a-Lago, ring the doorbell, and then run like hell. ---
**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20447 "2018-05-18T14:49:23Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > My Wife and I are the only full time resident on our road, and I was going to suggest ‘Chicken Crossing Road’ or as a back up ‘Loon Lane’. I had a friend who lived in Nut Meadow, Concord, MA. Considering some of her neighbors… ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20448 "2018-05-18T15:11:28Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > … and then run like hell. Eh, don’t have to run _too_ hard. It’s not like Trump or his boys can waddle that fast. Maybe “and then onchalantly walk like hell”. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20449 "2018-05-18T16:06:30Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > This has been one of my biggest gripes from Day One: treating him as normal. > > To go back to my familiar conceit: he’s like Grandpa who comes to Sunday dinner with his underpants on his head. The first few times he does it, people are shocked and dismayed. Then it becomes Normal for Him and people say, “Oh, that’s just Grandpa.” > > Well now some (not all) of the commentators slide right past the fact that there are underpants on thump’s head, and they’re analyzing the underpants! “Well, briefs, not boxers–whaddayaknow. Yea, but are those Hanes or Jockeys?” > > PEOPLE, THE MAN IS RUNNING AROUND WITH UNDERWEAR ON HIS HEAD AND YOU’RE ACTING LIKE IT’S NORMAL! The thing that has bothered me, starting with the campaign and continuing to this day, is how the media breathlessly hangs on every word from the moron’s Twitter feed. If, two weeks after he declared his candidacy, the media would have just reported something like “Donald Trump said something stupid on Twitter again today” every time he said something stupid on Twitter, I’m not sure we’d be where we are today. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20450 "2018-05-18T16:43:56Z")
> [@Shoeless](#): > > The thing that has bothered me, starting with the campaign and continuing to this day, is how the media breathlessly hangs on every word from the moron’s Twitter feed. If, two weeks after he declared his candidacy, the media would have just reported something like “Donald Trump said something stupid on Twitter again today” every time he said something stupid on Twitter, I’m not sure we’d be where we are today. Reporting things the President is publicly saying is newsworthy. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20451 "2018-05-18T16:52:05Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Reporting things the President is publicly saying is newsworthy. I like how Reuters handles it. Basically, “here are today’s tweets.” And that’s that. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20452 "2018-05-18T16:54:51Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Reporting things the President is publicly saying is newsworthy. And if the press decided what was stupid, the entirety of Trump’s utterances would be reduced to: Trump said something stupid at a campaign rally. Trump said something stupid at a press conference. Trump said something stupid to a joint session of Congress… you get the idea. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20453 "2018-05-18T16:56:21Z")
> [@Shoeless](#): > > The thing that has bothered me, starting with the campaign and continuing to this day, is how the media breathlessly hangs on every word from the moron’s Twitter feed. If, two weeks after he declared his candidacy, the media would have just reported something like “Donald Trump said something stupid on Twitter again today” every time he said something stupid on Twitter, I’m not sure we’d be where we are today. +1 > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Reporting things the President is publicly saying is newsworthy. Not in this case. Is it newsworthy when the President takes a crap? No. His tweets are his way of taking a public crap ON the public every day. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20454 "2018-05-18T18:33:59Z")
A federal judge ruled that ICE was lying when it tried to deport a Dreamer, claiming his DACA status was void because he was a gang member. He wasn’t. > **[To Deport a Dreamer, ICE Claimed He Was “Gang-Affiliated.” A Federal Judge...](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/05/federal-judge-accused-ice-of-making-up-evidence-to-prove-that-dreamer-was-gang-affiliated.html)** > > Daniel Ramirez Medina, the Dreamer, will now be allowed to stay in the U.S. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20455 "2018-05-18T19:21:34Z")
Trump [tried to order](https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/trump-personally-pushed-postmaster-general-to-double-rates-on-amazon-other-firms/2018/05/18/2b6438d2-5931-11e8-858f-12becb4d6067_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.ca582f88308f) the USPS to double Amazon’s rates. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20456 "2018-05-18T19:22:20Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > A federal judge ruled that ICE was lying when it tried to deport a Dreamer, claiming his DACA status was void because he was a gang member. He wasn’t. > [Federal judge accused ICE of making up evidence to prove that Dreamer was “gang-affiliated.”](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/05/federal-judge-accused-ice-of-making-up-evidence-to-prove-that-dreamer-was-gang-affiliated.html) Just goes to show that [ICE cannot be trusted](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=20204078#post20204078). ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20457 "2018-05-18T20:46:36Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Aye aye, Captain! \ > > While you’re in Florida, suggest you set a bag of dog shit on fire on the front porch at Mar-a-Lago, ring the doorbell, and then run like hell. > [@Lightray](#): > > Eh, don’t have to run _too_ hard. It’s not like Trump or his boys can waddle that fast. Maybe “and then onchalantly walk like hell”. No, go ahead and run. When they overtake you, tell them you were chasing after the suspicious-looking character you saw running down the driveway, but you lost him. If they ask you what he looked like, give a description of Eric. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20458 "2018-05-18T21:04:56Z")
Oh dear lord. If black people started calling the police and reporting a suspicious person every time they saw Eric Trump, it would be hilarious. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20459 "2018-05-18T21:27:58Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Oh dear lord. If black people started calling the police and reporting a suspicious person every time they saw Eric Trump, it would be hilarious. 😃 Eric and Don Jr. rarely, if ever, go anyplace where they might mingle with…them…you know…(hushed voice) _the darkies_. ---
**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2018, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20460 "2018-05-19T00:22:29Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Trump [tried to order](https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/trump-personally-pushed-postmaster-general-to-double-rates-on-amazon-other-firms/2018/05/18/2b6438d2-5931-11e8-858f-12becb4d6067_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.ca582f88308f) the USPS to double Amazon’s rates. Well, we knew that Amazon wasn’t one of the companies that sent a [del]bribe[/del] consulting fee to Cohen, so this isn’t a surprise. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2018, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20461 "2018-05-19T01:21:50Z")
[Here ya go, Vlad](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-usa/u-s-withdrawing-assistance-from-northwest-syria-cbs-news-idUSKCN1IK024?il=0). (Reuters) > [@](#): > > The Trump administration has withdrawn all assistance from northwest Syria, CBS News reported on Friday, a move it said demonstrated that the United States intends to leave Syria quickly once Islamic State is fully defeated. > > Citing unnamed administration officials, CBS said tens of millions of dollars will be cut from previous U.S.-backed efforts including projects for “countering violent extremism, supporting independent society and independent media, strengthening education, and advocating for community policing.” ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2018, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20462 "2018-05-19T01:55:21Z")
Gosh, what possible problems could there be with arming militants against their government, declaring victory and walking away? :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2018, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20463 "2018-05-19T02:22:39Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Trump [tried to order](https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/trump-personally-pushed-postmaster-general-to-double-rates-on-amazon-other-firms/2018/05/18/2b6438d2-5931-11e8-858f-12becb4d6067_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.ca582f88308f) the USPS to double Amazon’s rates. Of all the idiotic things Trump does because he can’t seem to understand that the law isn’t whatever he happens to want to do at a given moment, this has to be one of the, er, idiotest. Is there not a slight issue of First Amendment rights here? Is the fucking moron not aware that the Post Office has (well, presumably) written contracts with its large shippers? Can he even legally direct the Post Office to arbitrarily double its rates for a single shipper? Somehow I doubt it. So yeah, mean, petty, sleazy, vindictive, etc., but above all one of the most harebrained moves of this spectacularly harebrained Presidency. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2018, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20464 "2018-05-19T02:30:58Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Of all the idiotic things Trump does because he can’t seem to understand that the law isn’t whatever he happens to want to do at a given moment, this has to be one of the, er, idiotest. Is there not a slight issue of First Amendment rights here? **Is the fucking moron not aware that the Post Office has (well, presumably) written contracts with its large shippers? Can he even legally direct the Post Office to arbitrarily double its rates for a single shipper?** Somehow I doubt it. > > So yeah, mean, petty, sleazy, vindictive, etc., but above all one of the most harebrained moves of this spectacularly harebrained Presidency. Isn’t breaking contracts one of Trump’s standard ways of doing business? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1022) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1024)