# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2018, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20505 "2018-05-22T12:38:51Z")

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> [@Frodo](#):
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> Answered in triplicate, as the SDMB regulations prescribe…

Wouldn’t the term “dumdasses” work just as well?

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2018, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20506 "2018-05-22T12:40:45Z")

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> [@Nava](#):
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> Did we get all appropriate signatures and seals, though?

All of them except Permit A 38, we need to send someone to… The Place That Sends You Mad.

I propose telling **Snowboarder Bo** there’s a quarry there and to go throw stuff…

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2018, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20507 "2018-05-22T12:52:05Z")

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😃

[For those unfamiliar with the reference](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtEkUmYecnk). I forgive Uderzo and Goscinny for every single bad joke they ever came up with (and there were quite a few) just for that sequence.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2018, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20508 "2018-05-22T12:59:00Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> Speaking of Jared Kushner, [it may be amusing to read what his Harvard classmates think of this insipid dork](https://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/heres-what-jared-kushners-harvard-class-had-say-about-him-its-15th-anniversary).

Someone there has a gift for colorful phrasing:

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> I’ve always wanted to meet someone who is as unfamiliar with the principles of democratic self-government or the history of twentieth-century ideologies that resulted in mass slaughter as he is with how to grow a beard.

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> Alas, our most infamous class member probably won’t even attend the Reunion; life’s busy when you’re unwittingly shooting the History Channel documentaries of tomorrow.

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> One minute you’re Charles Foster Kane buying papers and trying to sell properties in a building numbered 666 (hahaha I’ll bet their PR person is named Rosemary, too). the next you’re googling “how to grow a beard and fake your own death”. Life’s strange.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2018, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20509 "2018-05-22T14:40:06Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> If Obama had pulled a stupid stunt like this out of his ass, let alone _released a commemorative coin_, the Republicans would have started a god damn civil war. Why are the Dems so quiet?

Recognition that civil wars are usually pretty bad things?

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2018, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20510 "2018-05-22T15:17:04Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> Trump’s administration is rolling back “extreme hunting” legislation in Alaska, including allowing bear cubs and wolf pups to be shot in their dens.
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> [Trump Team Moves To Lift Ban On 'Extreme' Hunting Tactics In Alaska | HuffPost Latest News](https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/alaska-preserve-predator-hunting-interior-proposed-rule_us_5b032131e4b0a046186ecabe)

IFF your goal is a program of extermination of ALL predator species (not that I think that’s a laudable or wise goal), such extreme measures as killing immature members, by whatever means are available, at least exist on a linear chain of events towards achieving that goal.

But the article mentions that the proposed rollback also would make it okay to shoot swimming caribou from a motorboat.

WTF? In what way is _that_ “predator control?” If the “reasoning” is that now we need to control the PREY census, well that’s just an argument against taking out all the predators.

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2018, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20511 "2018-05-22T15:19:50Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> Speaking of Jared Kushner, [it may be amusing to read what his Harvard classmates think of this insipid dork](https://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/heres-what-jared-kushners-harvard-class-had-say-about-him-its-15th-anniversary).

Even funnier to see what the people [colluding with him](http://www.businessinsider.com/george-nader-elliot-broidy-jared-kushner-clown-prince-saudi-uae-2018-5) thought of him.

\*“You have to hear in private my Brother what Principals think of ‘Clown prince’s’ efforts and his plan!” Nader wrote to Broidy, using code names for the crown royals and the pejorative for Kushner. “Nobody would even waste cup of coffee on him if it wasn’t for who he is married to,” Nader added referring to Kushner’s wife, Ivanka Trump. \*

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**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2018, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20512 "2018-05-22T17:10:08Z")

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Haven’t seen this mentioned even it’s from last Friday: [a guy starts shooting at trump golf resort.](http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/miami-dade/fl-reg-trump-national-doral-shooting-20180518-story.html) ( He’s white so he survived even five cops stormed there guns a-blazing )

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2018, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20513 "2018-05-22T17:52:00Z")

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[Pruitt bars AP, CNN from EPA summit on contaminants, guards push reporter out of building](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/pruitt-bars-media-epa-summit-contaminants-guards-push-reporter-out-n876396)

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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2018, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20514 "2018-05-22T18:17:59Z")

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> [@SaneBill](#):
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> Haven’t seen this mentioned even it’s from last Friday: [a guy starts shooting at trump golf resort.](http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/miami-dade/fl-reg-trump-national-doral-shooting-20180518-story.html) ( He’s white so he survived even five cops stormed there guns a-blazing )

You buried the lead. From this headline, [Gunman arrested at Trump resort was porn actor, stripper who adored Melania Trump: report](http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/05/19/gunman-arrested-at-trump-resort-was-porn-actor-stripper-who-adored-melania-trump-report.html)

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> The Miami Herald reported Oddi “listed himself as a fitness instructor, real-estate investor and manager at Pegasus, a business dealing in minerals and gemstones.” He also had a side job as a stripper at Dancing Bear, a website that produces videos showing women performing sexual acts on the male dancers…  
> Oddi’s other posts included supporting cashews as a natural antidepressant and quotes from rapper Notorious B.I.G. He also posted about his admiration for first lady Melania Trump.  
> "#flotus rocks! She sets the example of mannerism. She counters Trumps aggressiveness,” he wrote in a post showing the first lady smiling.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2018, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20515 "2018-05-22T18:22:44Z")

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> [@Moriarty](#):
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> > Oddi

He certainly is. 😃

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2018, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20516 "2018-05-22T18:25:53Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> IFF your goal is a program of extermination of ALL predator species (not that I think that’s a laudable or wise goal), such extreme measures as killing immature members, by whatever means are available, at least exist on a linear chain of events towards achieving that goal.
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> But the article mentions that the proposed rollback also would make it okay to shoot swimming caribou from a motorboat.
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> WTF? In what way is _that_ “predator control?” If the “reasoning” is that now we need to control the PREY census, well that’s just an argument against taking out all the predators.

You’re doing that thing… Trying to make sense. Doesn’t work. This is ALL about the orgasmic joy that comes from killing things. Especially helpless things.

My late husband and I had some property in the Texas hill country and some guys with small dicks and small brains came in and shot all the deer they could find, including fawns, and just left their bodies. NOT saying all hunters are like this. NOT SAYING, OKAY. But some get their kicks that way. They just get a rush when their projectile penetrates the target.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2018, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20517 "2018-05-22T19:03:26Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> [Pruitt bars AP, CNN from EPA summit on contaminants, guards push reporter out of building](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/pruitt-bars-media-epa-summit-contaminants-guards-push-reporter-out-n876396)

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> “This was simply an issue of the room reaching capacity, which reporters were aware of prior to the event,” Wilcox told NBC News. “_We were able to accommodate 10 reporters_, provided a livestream for those we could not accommodate and were unaware of the individual situation that has been reported.”

They were holding a news conference in a broom closet?

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2018, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20518 "2018-05-22T22:00:23Z")

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Trump is loosening up the law that used to restrict bear baiting (train bears to go to a place where they are then shot), shooting bear cubs and wolf pups in their dens, and shooting caribou from a boat while they are swimming.

> **[Trump Ends Obama’s Ban on Bear Baiting, Other Cruel Hunting Techniques in Alaska](https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/05/trump-ends-obamas-ban-on-bear-baiting-in-alaska.html)**
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> Disputes between animal-rights supporters and trophy hunters are a reliable culture-war issue that Team Trump is happy to exploit.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2018, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20519 "2018-05-22T22:21:09Z")

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> [@Muffin](#):
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> Trump is loosening up the law that used to restrict bear baiting (train bears to go to a place where they are then shot), shooting bear cubs and wolf pups in their dens, and shooting caribou from a boat while they are swimming.  
> [Trump Ends Obama’s Ban On Bear Baiting in Alaska](http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/05/trump-ends-obamas-ban-on-bear-baiting-in-alaska.html)

Just another indication that Trump’s only objective for his time in office is to undo whatever Obama did. I don’t recall hearing anyone clamoring for the right to shoot swimming caribou.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2018, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20520 "2018-05-22T22:24:09Z")

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> [@Typo\_Negative](#):
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> They were holding a news conference in a broom closet?

It was a normal-sized conference room, but Pruitt’s bullet-proof booth took up 4/5ths of the space.

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**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2018, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20521 "2018-05-22T22:39:56Z")

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heres economics and labor under der furher [MSN](https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/harley-davidson-took-its-tax-cut-closed-a-factory-and-rewarded-shareholders/ar-AAxD6bK?li=BBnbfcN)

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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2018, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20522 "2018-05-22T23:07:16Z")

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> [@nightshadea](#):
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> heres economics and labor under der furher [MSN](https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/harley-davidson-took-its-tax-cut-closed-a-factory-and-rewarded-shareholders/ar-AAxD6bK?li=BBnbfcN)

Silly employees, thought they were more important than shareholders.:dubious:

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20523 "2018-05-23T00:51:46Z")

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**ThelmaLou @20511** : I get a rush when my projectile penetrates the target, but I don’t own any guns or like to kill animals (or plants). Are we cool?

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20524 "2018-05-23T01:10:14Z")

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