# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20545 "2018-05-23T17:05:18Z")

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Moon Man is actually my favorite New Glarus beer when I go to Wisconsin. Spotted Cow is good also though.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20546 "2018-05-23T17:17:08Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> Ah, but can you get Spotted Cow\*, Inadvertent Aged Cheddar, and Real Beer Brats?
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> Oh, and the classic Brandy Old-Fashioned Sweet, best sipped at the local “supper club” while waiting for your All-You-Can-Eat Friday Night Fish Fry (Cod, Walleye or Trout, baked or beer-battered).  
> \*(a tasty Farmhouse Ale, only available in Wisconsin… which is a shrewd marketing move, if my friend sneaking across the border to stock his _All Spotted Cow Man-Cave Fridge_ in Chicago is any indicator)

I want to go to that place.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20547 "2018-05-23T18:05:51Z")

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> [@Dag\_Otto](#):
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> Surprised Nunes needed an invite, seeing how he already lives up Trump’s ass.

Given that Trump is up Putin’s ass, there’s a Russian nesting doll joke tyhere somewhere.

In seriousness, looking at it from the outside, I feel so terrible for the United States. Your democracy is really wheezing right now.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20548 "2018-05-23T18:29:43Z")

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The Secretary of Homeland Security has never read the report which documents Russian meddling in US elections.

> **[The head of Homeland Security never read the official report on Russian...](https://qz.com/1285126/department-of-homeland-security-chief-kirstjen-nielsen-did-not-read-the-official-report-on-russian-interference)**
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> But Trump's own cabinet members testified last year that they agreed with its findings.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20549 "2018-05-23T18:40:47Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> The Secretary of Homeland Security has never read the report which documents Russian meddling in US elections.  
> [Department of Homeland Security chief Kirstjen Nielsen did not read the official report on Russian interference](https://qz.com/1285126/department-of-homeland-security-chief-kirstjen-nielsen-did-not-read-the-official-report-on-russian-interference/)

Of course not. Reading is so… 2000s. It’s just Not Done anymore.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20550 "2018-05-23T18:51:43Z")

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Or else he already knew.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20551 "2018-05-23T18:53:31Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Or else he already knew.

\*she

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20552 "2018-05-23T18:53:40Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> I feel so terrible for the United States. Your democracy is really wheezing right now.

We’ve gone through bad stretches many times, including a number worse than this (ever hear of Joe McCarthy?). It’s frustrating as hell, naturally, but the damage is still not too deep to fix as quickly as it was made.

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**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20553 "2018-05-23T18:55:20Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Or else he already knew.

He’s a she, and she knew.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20554 "2018-05-23T18:55:50Z")

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The EPA banned reporters at another event today. It was unclear if all reporters were banned, or just certain reporters.  
[EPA again blocks journalists from attending summit: 'They ain't doing the CNN stuff'](http://money.cnn.com/2018/05/23/media/epa-blocks-journalists-summit/index.html)?

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20555 "2018-05-23T19:43:17Z")

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Trump told Lesley Stahl that he attacks the press to “demean” and “discredit” reporters so that the public won’t believe “negative stories” about him.

> **[Trump told '60 Minutes' reporter that he attacks media to 'discredit'...](https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-attacks-media-to-undermine-negative-stories-60-minutes-interview-2018-5)**
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> President Donald Trump told veteran television reporter Lesley Stahl that he attacks the press to "demean" and "discredit" reporters so that the public won't believe "negative stories" about him.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20556 "2018-05-23T19:47:49Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Trump told Lesley Stahl that he attacks the press to “demean” and “discredit” reporters so that the public won’t believe “negative stories” about him.  
> [Trump Told a Veteran Reporter He Attacks Media to Undermine Negative Stories](http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-attacks-media-to-undermine-negative-stories-60-minutes-interview-2018-5)

He can even admit he’s always lying through his teeth and his base still believes him.

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> “I said, ‘You know, this is getting tired. Why are you doing it over and over? It’s boring and it’s time to end that. You know, you’ve won … why do you keep hammering at this?’” Stahl went on. “And he said: ‘You know why I do it? I do it to discredit you all and demean you all so that when you write negative stories about me no one will believe you.’”

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20557 "2018-05-23T20:34:53Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> **ThelmaLou @20511** : I get a rush when my projectile penetrates the target, but I don’t own any guns or like to kill animals (or plants). Are we cool?

Well, you _should_ –

Hey, waitaminute…

NO FLIRTING IN THE PIT!

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20558 "2018-05-23T20:37:35Z")

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Trump says voting in the midterms isn’t very important.

> **[Opinion | Trump just told a very revealing joke about the midterm elections](https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2018/05/23/trump-just-told-a-very-revealing-joke-about-the-midterm-elections/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.572306ea9bc2)**
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> That's very bad news for Republicans hoping to hang on to control of the House and Senate.

I’m sure the Republicans are thrilled to hear him say that.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20559 "2018-05-23T20:40:46Z")

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> [@Muffin](#):
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> Wisconsin? You mean the state where a county sheriff, who upon noticing our Ontario plates, tossed us in jail for not speeding on the interstate?

o\_o

\>\_\<

o\_0

Well, THEREin lies a tale. 'Scuse me while I grab a bag of potato chips (I’ll make them ketchup-flavored in deference to you, **Muffin** ).

Unless you’ve already posted that one. In which case: Linky, please?

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20560 "2018-05-23T20:43:31Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Trump says voting in the midterms isn’t very important.

Well, obviously! After all, if they can’t vote for him, why would they even bother, right?

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20561 "2018-05-23T20:46:57Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> Ah, but can you get Spotted Cow\*, Inadvertent Aged Cheddar, and Real Beer Brats?

What the hell is Inadvertent Aged Cheddar? Did they leave it behind a filing cabinet in the limestone cave and forget about if?

If so, GIMME.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20562 "2018-05-23T20:48:02Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> \*(a tasty Farmhouse Ale, only available in Wisconsin… which is a shrewd marketing move, if my friend sneaking across the border to stock his _All Spotted Cow Man-Cave Fridge_ in Chicago is any indicator)

I see a sequel to _Convoy_ in the making…

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20563 "2018-05-23T20:52:23Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> Well, obviously! After all, if they can’t vote for him, why would they even bother, right?

I agree! Anyone who voted for Trump in 2016 should just stay home this year.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20564 "2018-05-23T20:55:43Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Trump says voting in the midterms isn’t very important.  
> [https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2018/05/23/trump-just-told-a-very-revealing-joke-about-the-midterm-elections/?noredirect=on&utm\_term=.572306ea9bc2](https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2018/05/23/trump-just-told-a-very-revealing-joke-about-the-midterm-elections/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.572306ea9bc2)
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> I’m sure the Republicans are thrilled to hear him say that.

Hope he keeps hammering on that message. The only ones who pay attention should be his base. Then we might stand a chance of flipping, the House, the Senate, and whatever group had enough idjits who thought the DH, no-pitch intentional walks and regular season interleague play were acceptable ideas.

And letting Rupert Murdoch own my Dodgers, even temporarily…

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