# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20585 "2018-05-24T14:04:14Z")

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Maybe Stormy Daniels and Kim Jong Un now have something in common: Trump pulling out.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20586 "2018-05-24T14:05:38Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> More winning, as the North Korea summit is canceled, according to the TV news.

Now he’ll just have to get his Nobel the old fashioned way, by bringing peace to the Middle East.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20587 "2018-05-24T14:14:40Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> Maybe Stormy Daniels and Kim Jong Un now have something in common: Trump pulling out.

hahahahaha! \*wipes tears away.

also, stealing this.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20588 "2018-05-24T14:21:05Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> More winning, as the North Korea summit is canceled, according to the TV news.

Has Fox News praised Trump for cancelling it yet?

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**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20589 "2018-05-24T14:27:17Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> More winning, as the North Korea summit is canceled, according to the TV news.

CNN too: [https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/24/politics/trump-north-korea/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/24/politics/trump-north-korea/index.html)

But truthfully, does this surprise _ **anyone** _, no matter what side of the political spectrum you’re on?

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20590 "2018-05-24T14:48:52Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> Aw, but they had the coins minted and everything!

can they still return the nobel or has it been engraved already?

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**Author:** ![Paintcharge](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/paintcharge/32/7946_2.png) [@Paintcharge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paintcharge)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20591 "2018-05-24T14:51:54Z")

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> [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](#):
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> CNN too: [https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/24/politics/trump-north-korea/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/24/politics/trump-north-korea/index.html)
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> But truthfully, does this surprise _ **anyone** _, no matter what side of the political spectrum you’re on?

Is there any evidence anywhere that this meeting was even actually scheduled?

I, for one, don’t really believe that Pompeo actually went to meet with Kim, and that the meeting was completely made up out of whole cloth.

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20592 "2018-05-24T15:00:32Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> Has Fox News praised Trump for cancelling it yet?

Less than ten minutes after it was announced, Alan Dershowitz was on Fox saying what a master of negotiating Trump is. No joke.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20593 "2018-05-24T15:01:21Z")

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And all the Trump supporters who had been bragging about him bringing peace, love and unification to the Koreas will suddenly forget that any of that happened and that they had said anything of the sort.

But a couple of prisoners got freed so, you know, silver lining.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20594 "2018-05-24T15:04:08Z")

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> [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](#):
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> CNN too: [https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/24/politics/trump-north-korea/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/24/politics/trump-north-korea/index.html)
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> But truthfully, does this surprise _ **anyone** _, no matter what side of the political spectrum you’re on?

I hear the nobel prize committee was caught unawares, and now will have to go with their backup nominee.

> [@Gyrate](#):
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> And all the Trump supporters who had been bragging about him bringing peace, love and unification to the Koreas will suddenly forget that any of that happened and that they had said anything of the sort.
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> But a couple of prisoners got freed so, you know, silver lining.

The OP of [this thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=20978550#post20978550) may have a hard time forgetting.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20595 "2018-05-24T15:09:57Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> But a couple of prisoners got freed so, you know, silver lining.

There are two dozen journalists in North Korea covering the destruction of the nuclear testing site. Kim could just arrest them.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20596 "2018-05-24T15:24:13Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> Maybe Stormy Daniels and Kim Jong Un now have something in common: Trump pulling out.

You are a very, very bad person and I want you to go sit in that corner and think up more.

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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20597 "2018-05-24T15:38:30Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> can they still return the nobel or has it been engraved already?

No problem, he will be awarded the new Nobel Gullibility Prize…

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**Author:** ![Sinaptics](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Sinaptics](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sinaptics)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20598 "2018-05-24T15:40:19Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> And all the Trump supporters who had been bragging about him bringing peace, love and unification to the Koreas will suddenly forget that any of that happened and that they had said anything of the sort.
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> But a couple of prisoners got freed so, you know, silver lining.

Worse than that. I pop over to conservative websites every now and then to see how they react to certain news stories. Last I checked on this topic, they were saying that this is just proof what an awesome negotiator he is not to fall for their tricks. They completely miss that he did, in fact, fall for their tricks and was completely played.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20599 "2018-05-24T15:47:05Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> can they still return the nobel or has it been engraved already?

Looks to me like all they have to do is carve in an “ig-” on the left, there.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20600 "2018-05-24T16:34:15Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Looks to me like all they have to do is carve in an “ig-” on the left, there.

True. In this case, the misspelling would be a feature, not a bug.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20601 "2018-05-24T16:35:55Z")

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> [@smithsb](#):
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> Our greatest negotiator, deal maker, and all around hardass/my way or the highway president has folded on his bedrock demand for North Korea to give up its nuclear weapons - without ever sitting down with the other guy. Guess he has to have his meeting or else melt down all those coins he had stamped.
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> [Trump backs off demand that Kim Jong Un completely give up North Korea's nuclear weapons programme | The Straits Times](https://www.straitstimes.com/world/united-states/trump-backs-off-demand-that-kim-completely-give-up-nuclear-weapons-programme)
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> He sure showed Kim. Imagine a whippersnapper like that thinking he could hold his ground with a seasoned professional/leader/golfer like our Trumpster. USA USA USA

From the article:

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> “We believe there is a 99.9 per cent chance the North Korea-US summit will be held as scheduled,” Mr Moon’s national security adviser Chung Eui Yong said to  
> reporters travelling to Washington.

Remind me never to bet on the horses with this guy.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20602 "2018-05-24T16:54:50Z")

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Unless the tracks set up a side bet system like in craps, that lets you bet on which horse will be last.

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**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20603 "2018-05-24T17:05:05Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> Aw, but they had the coins minted and everything!

Were there really coins? Are they worth more now?

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20604 "2018-05-24T17:21:50Z")

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> [@Yllaria](#):
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> Were there really coins? Are they worth more now?

The White House Gift Shop website dropped the price from $89 to $24 just before the whole website went completely dark.

> **[The White House Gift Shop, Est. 1946 by Permanent Order of President H. S....](https://www.whitehousegiftshop.com/Default.asp)**
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> Welcome to the White House Gift Shop, Est. 1946 by permanent order of President Harry S. Truman & Secret Service Officers. For 70 years the White House Gift Shop Store is the authentic U.S. Trademark Protected Source for President Donald J. Trump,...

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