# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2018, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20645 "2018-05-25T21:45:15Z")

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The deplorable construction and qualities of the CFSG’s tweets [is intentionally aimed](https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2018/05/21/trump-tweets-include-grammatical-errors-and-some-them-are-purpose/JeL7AtKLPevJDIIOMG7TrN/amp.html) at comforting his ignorati and irritating the snooty elites, because he likes chaos and disorder.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2018, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20646 "2018-05-25T22:44:51Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> The deplorable construction and qualities of the CFSG’s tweets [is intentionally aimed](https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2018/05/21/trump-tweets-include-grammatical-errors-and-some-them-are-purpose/JeL7AtKLPevJDIIOMG7TrN/amp.html) at comforting his ignorati and irritating the snooty elites, because he likes chaos and disorder.

Interesting article. I wonder if that algorithm has calculated a likelihood of it being him who came up with “covfefe.”

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2018, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20647 "2018-05-25T22:57:52Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> [dgfffcf](https://www.mediaite.com/online/michael-flynn-breaks-silence-with-now-deleted-tweet-featuring-hillary-weinstein-and-huma-abedin/)

The new covfefe?

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**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2018, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20648 "2018-05-25T23:27:03Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> OK, OK. I know that this is potentially stooping into birther level conspiracy theory territory. And, I know that this reeks of JAQing. But, articles about Melania Trump are starting to hint at [the oddness of her whereabouts](https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/trump-says-the-first-lady-is-doing-great-she-hasnt-been-seen-in-public-for-two-weeks/2018/05/25/b9107c60-5f97-11e8-a4a4-c070ef53f315_story.html?utm_term=.002d1163f192) the past few weeks:
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> \*First lady Melania Trump, who spent five nights in the hospital following a kidney procedure, has been out of public view for 15 days running — an unusually long absence even for a first lady who relishes life outside the spotlight. \*  
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> According to a pool report, Trump responded by pointing to a window in the White House residence, and said: “She’s doing great. She’s looking at us right there.”
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> Reporters turned to look at the spot he indicated, but there was no sign of the first lady. \*

Hmmm… how long before her ‘kidney surgery’ did that video go viral showing her trying to avoid holding hands with Donald?

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2018, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20649 "2018-05-25T23:45:06Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> The deplorable construction and qualities of the CFSG’s tweets [is intentionally aimed](https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2018/05/21/trump-tweets-include-grammatical-errors-and-some-them-are-purpose/JeL7AtKLPevJDIIOMG7TrN/amp.html) at comforting his ignorati and irritating the snooty elites, because he likes chaos and disorder.

Well I suppose looking for all the world to see like a petulant, petty and ignorant buffoon does fit the dignity of the office. Lincoln shoulda thought of that. Four score and seven years ago, my arse. Ivory tower out of touch college elite type. Not a Real American, made America weak, treated the South very unfairly. Sad !

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20650 "2018-05-26T03:16:37Z")

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[In a speech to graduates at Annapolis](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/25/us/politics/trump-naval-academy-annapolis-commencement.html), CFSG said that the military is recovering from years of shrinkage and decay,

_“We’ll have by far the most powerful nuclear force on earth, and it’ll be absolutely in perfect shape and condition,” Mr. Trump told the sailors on the ship that day. “And hopefully, [COLOR=“Black”]praise be to God, we don’t ever have to use it. But there will be nobody that’s even close.”_[/COLOR]

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**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20651 "2018-05-26T04:22:56Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> [In a speech to graduates at Annapolis](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/25/us/politics/trump-naval-academy-annapolis-commencement.html), CFSG said that the military is recovering from years of shrinkage and decay,
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> _“We’ll have by far the most powerful nuclear force on earth, and it’ll be absolutely in perfect shape and condition,” Mr. Trump told the sailors on the ship that day. “And hopefully, [COLOR=“Black”]praise be to God, we don’t ever have to use it. But there will be nobody that’s even close.”_[/COLOR]

Playing at the Academy movie theatre later in the evening, that rousing Navy film [On The Beach.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Beach_(1959_film))

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20652 "2018-05-26T04:48:12Z")

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[Emails show cooperation between Scott Pruitt’s EPA & climate-change deniers](https://apnews.com/64cd37b0503440c0b92e6ca075f87dd4/Emails-show-cooperation-among-EPA,-climate-change-deniers):

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> Newly released emails show senior Environmental Protection Agency officials working closely with a conservative group that dismisses climate change to rally like-minded people for public hearings on science and global warming, counter negative news coverage and tout Administrator Scott Pruitt’s stewardship of the agency.
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> John Konkus, EPA’s deputy associate administrator for public affairs, repeatedly reached out to senior staffers at the Heartland Institute, according to the emails.
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> “If you send a list, we will make sure an invitation is sent,” Konkus wrote to then-Heartland president Joseph Bast in May 2017, seeking suggestions on scientists and economists the EPA could invite to an annual EPA public hearing on the agency’s science standards.
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> Follow-up emails show Konkus and the Heartland Institute mustering scores of potential invitees known for rejecting scientific warnings of man-made climate-change, including from groups like Plants Need CO2, The Right Climate Stuff, and Junk Science.

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**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20653 "2018-05-26T06:40:32Z")

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 7:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20654 "2018-05-26T07:50:15Z")

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From the _New York Times_:

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> Members of a special team at the Education Department that had been investigating widespread abuses by for-profit colleges have been marginalized, reassigned or instructed to focus on other matters, according to current and former employees.
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> The unwinding of the team has effectively killed investigations into possibly fraudulent activities at several large for-profit colleges where top hires of Betsy DeVos, the education secretary, had previously worked.
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> During the final months of the Obama administration, the team had expanded to include a dozen or so lawyers and investigators who were looking into advertising, recruitment practices and job placement claims at several institutions, including DeVry Education Group.
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> **The investigation into DeVry ground to a halt early last year. Later, in the summer, Ms. DeVos named Julian Schmoke, a former dean at DeVry, as the team’s new supervisor.**

The criminal activity of Trump’s team, especially Betsy DeVos, is very blatant. In the olden days the public would be enraged. Nowadays most Americans are unaware; the few that are aware just shrug their shoulders saying either “Business as usual” or “the Witch of Benghazi would have been worse.”

Though born in the U.S.A., I don’t think I can ever return to my country of birth. My rage would overwhelm me; I might buy a gun and spend my last days trying Second Amendment solutions.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20655 "2018-05-26T08:06:43Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> Though born in the U.S.A., I don’t think I can ever return to my country of birth.

No, you cannot. It is not the place that you left, so you cannot _return_ to it. And, anyway, it is in a serious, increasingly nose-down attitude. Similar to what my brother used to say, the world is a train car on a downgrade, with no brakes left, and at the bottom of the grade, the bridge is out.

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**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 10:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20656 "2018-05-26T10:16:48Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> the few that are aware just shrug their shoulders saying either “Business as usual” or “the Witch of Benghazi would have been worse.”

Next time somebody says that, kick them where it hurts and tell them to be thankful that you did it because Hillary would’ve been much worse.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20657 "2018-05-26T13:12:10Z")

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Sorry for the Facebook link, but I don’t know where to find [this video](https://www.facebook.com/actdottv/videos/807619816095253/) elsewhere.

> [@Loser Donnie](#):
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> We have thousands of judges. And they need thousands of more… judges. The whole system is corrupt! It’s horrible! So yeah, you need thousands of judges based on this crazy system. Whoever heard of a system where you put people through… trials?

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20658 "2018-05-26T16:10:45Z")

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Great - watching that fucking reptile Marc Short (WH legislative director) on PBS Newshour deflecting most of Judy’s questions. Same evasive, boilerplate shite as last time.  
Not sure if he bugs me more than Matt “Sucks to your ass-mar” Schlapp, and then a couple days ago they had on some hopped up Freedom Caucus numnuts who was, well, plain ol’ wild. Rabid. Did not come _close_ to answering a question and just went off on irrelevant, complete horseshit rants. I believe the spastic fucker’s name was Jim Jordan, IIRC. Fucking damn if they ever have them on again.

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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20659 "2018-05-26T17:23:52Z")

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I have to give PBS credit for interviewing both sides, much as I dislike the policies of the guests you noted. On Fox, they would be alone, with few tough questions.

Judy’s questions show how wrong they can be.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20660 "2018-05-26T17:39:13Z")

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DeVos thinks that it’s just hunky dory if schools call ICE on their undocumented students. Yes, that’s right, let’s get the feds in here to arrest children.

> **[Betsy DeVos Stirs Uproar By Saying Schools Can Call ICE On Undocumented Kids](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/betsy-devos-uproar-schools-call-ice-undocumented-kids_n_5b05a297e4b05f0fc8441ce3)**
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> The education secretary said it's a local decision, but she didn't argue against it.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20661 "2018-05-26T17:49:09Z")

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> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> …and then a couple days ago they had on some hopped up Freedom Caucus numnuts who was, well, plain ol’ wild. Rabid. Did not come _close_ to answering a question and just went off on irrelevant, complete horseshit rants. I believe the spastic fucker’s name was Jim Jordan, IIRC. Fucking damn if they ever have them on again.

You mean [future-Speaker](http://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/389079-jim-jordan-as-speaker-is-change-america-needs-to-move-forward) [of the House](https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/23/some-republicans-worried-if-jim-jordan-runs-for-house-speaker.html) [Jim Jordan](http://www.conservativehq.com/article/28004-open-letter-rep-jim-jordan)? Aye; there’s a big push on to get him to be Speaker instead of McCarthy. So you may be seeing more of that rabid spastic numbnuts fucker in the near future, eh.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20662 "2018-05-26T18:09:18Z")

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Great, we should have another Speaker from bumfuck Ohio.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20663 "2018-05-26T18:41:47Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Great, we should have another Speaker from bumfuck Ohio.

Hey now, Jim Jordan may be from Bumfuck, Ohio, but the previous speaker was from Butthurt, Ohio.

Get your geography straight.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20664 "2018-05-26T20:28:26Z")

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If you think the 4th district is Bumfuck, Ohio, you don’t know from Bumfuck.

I, being from actual Bumfuck, Ohio, would know.

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