# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 104
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2061 "2017-03-09T21:10:22Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > You liberals just don’t get it, it’s always the same with you. For eight years, the Clinton-Gore administration coasted through prosperity. The path of least resistance is always downhill. But America’s way is the rising road. We take challenges, instead of chickening out. Clinton couldn’t see that. Mr. Clinton embodied the potential of a generation. So many talents, so much charm, such great skill. But in the end to what end? So much promise, to no great purpose. Great speech, Melania. By way of reference, here’s how W said it: For eight years the Clinton-Gore administration has coasted through prosperity. The path of least resistance is always downhill. But America’s way is the rising road. … So many talents. So much charm. Such great skill…So much promise…Instead of seizing this moment, the Clinton-Gore Administration has squandered it. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2062 "2017-03-09T21:12:12Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > Classic straw man, untrue though, as conservatives have never advocated taking healthcare away from children [Buried in the Republican Obamacare replacement bill is a gutting federal funding for childhood vaccinations that would be an unprecedented and dangerous attack on America’s kids to pay for tax cuts for the rich.](http://www.politicususa.com/2017/03/07/trumpcare-tax-cut-wealthy-slashing-vaccinations-children.html) [[A] proposed restructuring of Medicaid could affect Americans with autism and the people who care for them.](http://abcnews.go.com/Health/experts-trumpcare-places-autism-disability-coverage-jeopardy/story?id=45990210) Something like a quarter million austistic children are having their care threatened. ---
**Author:** ![ckalli1998](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a3d4f5/32.png) [@ckalli1998](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ckalli1998)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2063 "2017-03-09T21:12:44Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Peace, prosperity, fiscal discipline, technological leadership, international respect,… > > Imagine what he could have achieved if he’d applied himself. International respect. I think the women of the world would disagree, my friend. ---
**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2064 "2017-03-09T21:13:45Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > Do we truly believe that ALL red-state residents are ignorant racist fascist knuckle-dragging NASCAR-obsessed cousin-marrying roadkill-eating tobacco-juice-dribbling gun-fondling religious fanatic rednecks; or that ALL blue-state residents are godless unpatriotic pierced-nose Volvo-driving France-loving left-wing communist latte-sucking tofu-chomping holistic-wacko neurotic vegan weenie perverts? That’s godless unpatriotic pierced-nose Volvo-driving France-loving left-wing communist latte-sucking **sharia-enabling** tofu-chomping holistic-wacko neurotic vegan weenie pervert to you, buddy! ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2065 "2017-03-09T21:16:30Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > You liberals just don’t get it, it’s always the same with you. For eight years, the Clinton-Gore administration coasted through prosperity. The path of least resistance is always downhill. But America’s way is the rising road. We take challenges, instead of chickening out. Clinton couldn’t see that. Mr. Clinton embodied the potential of a generation. So many talents, so much charm, such great skill. But in the end to what end? So much promise, to no great purpose. So you’re saying that when Republicans claim they want to Make America Great Again, they mean they want to fuck everything up, on purpose, because shared prosperity is bad for us as a nation? Yeah - that _does_ sound like the sort of batshit bullshit a Republican would find appealing. A conservative Flavor Aid, of sorts. Sadly for you, most people on this board are too smart to swallow it. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2066 "2017-03-09T21:20:55Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > International respect. I think the women of the world would disagree, my friend. So you agree on the peace, prosperity, fiscal discipline, and technological leadership; good to know. And when the women of the world elect you to speak for them, I’ll be sure to start listening. ---
**Author:** ![ckalli1998](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a3d4f5/32.png) [@ckalli1998](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ckalli1998)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2067 "2017-03-09T21:23:16Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > So you agree on the peace, prosperity, fiscal discipline, and technological leadership; good to know. > > And when the women of the world elect you to speak for them, I’ll be sure to start listening. That’s it. I’m signing off for now. This place is an ultraliberal fever swamp ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2068 "2017-03-09T21:29:42Z")
Don’t forget your tackle box. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2069 "2017-03-09T21:30:22Z")
Never thought I’d see a wingnut who makes **adaher** seem like a Rhodes Scholar. ---
**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2070 "2017-03-09T21:30:29Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > That’s it. I’m signing off for now. This place is an ultraliberal fever swamp You keep on using that word. I do not think that means what you think that means. ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2071 "2017-03-09T21:30:41Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > That’s it. I’m signing off for now. This place is an ultraliberal fever swamp I can only hope. ---
**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2072 "2017-03-09T21:33:03Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Never thought I’d see a wingnut who makes **adaher** seem like a Rhodes Scholar. That’s very insensitive of you. Rhodes was an unrepentant racist. Please use the Central Committee-approved term, “brain surgeon”. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2073 "2017-03-09T21:35:41Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > But in the end to what end? A revolutionized American economy and budget surpluses as far as the eye could see. Unfortunately, America was pretty short-sighted and elected Bush, who turned a great economy into two recessions. ---
**Author:** ![Trancephalic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trancephalic/32/380_2.png) [@Trancephalic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trancephalic)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2074 "2017-03-09T21:39:07Z")
Why does the party of rugged individualism all sound alike is what I’d like to know ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2075 "2017-03-09T21:41:51Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > My family doctor is basically a businesswoman who runs a partnership with a bunch of other doctors. That’s how general practice works in the UK too. ---
**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2076 "2017-03-09T21:42:49Z")
> [@Trancephalic](#): > > Why does the party of rugged individualism all sound alike is what I’d like to know ALEC talking point memos. Read religiously. ---
**Author:** ![ckalli1998](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a3d4f5/32.png) [@ckalli1998](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ckalli1998)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2077 "2017-03-09T21:46:02Z")
The great red zone of Middle America, the South, and the Rust Belt that voted from Trump is clearly ready for the great, coming economic growth after 8 years of slow growth and low home ownership rates, the lowest in 51 years in fact. The decadent, ultraliberal left in its enclaves on the coasts is not dead; they may very well mount s fifth column and make common cause with the Islamists. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2078 "2017-03-09T21:48:32Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > The great red zone of Middle America, the South, and the Rust Belt that voted from sTrumpnis clearly ready for the great, coming economic growth after 8 years of slow growth and low home ownership rates, the lowest in 51 years in fact. The decadent, ultraliberal left in its enclaves on the coasts is not dead; they may very well mount s fifth column and make common cause with the Islamists. Who are you calluping “decedent?” ---
**Author:** ![ckalli1998](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a3d4f5/32.png) [@ckalli1998](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ckalli1998)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2079 "2017-03-09T21:50:17Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > Who are you calluping “decedent?” Decadent, not decedent ---
**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2080 "2017-03-09T21:56:23Z")
According to Mike Flynn, he was [working for Turkey](http://bigstory.ap.org/article/former-trump-security-adviser-flynn-admits-turkey-lobbying). While not at _exactly_ the same time he was officially working for Trump, the two tenures were very, very close. Apparently, “drain the swamp” didn’t specify clearly enough what it was to be refilled with. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=103) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=105)