# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20785 "2018-05-30T15:28:47Z")

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> [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](#):
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> Sessions may (may) have a backbone, but he apparently lacks any sort of self-worth, given the constant stream of abuse he takes from his boss.

I’d like to think he thinks he’s protecting the country from Trump by refusing to resign. It may not require much backbone if he lacks any respect for him.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20786 "2018-05-30T15:34:54Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> I’d like to think he thinks he’s protecting the country from Trump by refusing to resign.

I hope so too, but man it’s hard to pin much hope on Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III doing the right thing.

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**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20787 "2018-05-30T15:44:32Z")

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> [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](#):
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> Sessions may (may) have a backbone, but he apparently lacks any sort of self-worth, given the constant stream of abuse he takes from his boss. Geez, has any cabinet person ever taken this sort of shit from a President before?

Sessions has an agenda. His boss does not. He has basically free rein to do whatever he wants with the Justice Department because his boss doesn’t know, understand, or care about any of the policies or practices that Sessions is implementing.  
The price for getting to remake the department in his own weird image is being constantly insulted by a guy that no one takes seriously anyway. That doesn’t seem like a horrible offer.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20788 "2018-05-30T16:02:03Z")

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> [@amarinth](#):
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> Sessions has an agenda. His boss does not. He has basically free rein to do whatever he wants with the Justice Department because his boss doesn’t know, understand, or care about any of the policies or practices that Sessions is implementing.  
> The price for getting to remake the department in his own weird image is being constantly insulted by a guy that no one takes seriously anyway. That doesn’t seem like a horrible offer.

This.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20789 "2018-05-30T17:54:08Z")

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> [@smithsb](#):
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> And he just expanded the H2B visa program for the poor Maryland crabbers who were whining.

And those crab company folks are 100% certifiable dipshit:

“I voted for Donald Trump and I’d vote for President Trump again,” he said. “But I think in small rural towns in America, we’re getting the short end of the stick on labor.”

From [http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/bs-md-crab-visa-shortage-20180502-story.html](http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/bs-md-crab-visa-shortage-20180502-story.html)

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20790 "2018-05-30T18:04:36Z")

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> [@wguy123](#):
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> And those crab company folks are 100% certifiable dipshit:
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> “I voted for Donald Trump and I’d vote for President Trump again,” he said. “But I think in small rural towns in America, we’re getting the short end of the stick on labor.”
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> From [http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/bs-md-crab-visa-shortage-20180502-story.html](http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/bs-md-crab-visa-shortage-20180502-story.html)

Today: “See? The President does care! He heard about our plight and has increased the quotas! All hail President Trump!”

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20791 "2018-05-30T18:24:43Z")

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Kim Kardashian is going to the White House today to discuss prison reform.

Uh, whut?

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20792 "2018-05-30T18:27:47Z")

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Sometimes these things just write themselves.

As I’m sure everyone has heard, Roseanne Barr made some anti-black, anti-Muslim, and anti-semitic remarks this week. As a result, her television series was cancelled.

Reporters asked if Trump, who has inexplicably taken credit for the show, had any comments on the situation. Here’s the quotes:

Tuesday evening:

Sanders: _“That’s not what the president is looking at. That’s not what he’s spending his time on. And I think that we have a lot bigger things going on in the country right now, certainly, that the president is spending his time on.”_

Wednesday morning:

Trump: _“Bob Iger of ABC called Valerie Jarrett to let her know that ‘ABC does not tolerate comments like those’ made by Roseanne Barr. Gee, he never called President Donald J. Trump to apologize for the HORRIBLE statements made and said about me on ABC. Maybe I just didn’t get the call?”_

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20793 "2018-05-30T18:33:19Z")

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Trump just called Nancy Pelosi an MS-13 lover. And former GOP head Michael Steele is not having it.  
“Ok, this is just a load of crap. And you wonder why Rosanne Barr and so many others feel free to drop any kind of BS (racist or just plain stupid) into the public discourse with impunity. I may disagree with her politics, but @NancyPelosi does not “love” MS-13. #JustStop”

> <https://twitter.com/MichaelSteele/status/1001671912580411396>
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> Jim Acosta @Acosta

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20794 "2018-05-30T18:42:54Z")

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That’s the scary part - what Roseanne Barr tweeted would be just another midnight trip to the potty for the President of the United States.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20795 "2018-05-30T18:44:04Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Sometimes these things just write themselves.
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> As I’m sure everyone has heard, Roseanne Barr made some anti-black, anti-Muslim, and anti-semitic remarks this week. As a result, her television series was cancelled.
> 
> Reporters asked if Trump, who has inexplicably taken credit for the show, had any comments on the situation. Here’s the quotes:
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> Tuesday evening:
> 
> Sanders: _“That’s not what the president is looking at. That’s not what he’s spending his time on. And I think that we have a lot bigger things going on in the country right now, certainly, that the president is spending his time on.”_
> 
> Wednesday morning:
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> Trump: _“Bob Iger of ABC called Valerie Jarrett to let her know that ‘ABC does not tolerate comments like those’ made by Roseanne Barr. Gee, he never called President Donald J. Trump to apologize for the HORRIBLE statements made and said about me on ABC. Maybe I just didn’t get the call?”_

does anyone know what ‘horrible’ statements he is reffering to?

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**Author:** ![snoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@snoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snoe)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20796 "2018-05-30T18:46:53Z")

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> [@amarinth](#):
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> Sessions has an agenda. His boss does not. He has basically free rein to do whatever he wants with the Justice Department because his boss doesn’t know, understand, or care about any of the policies or practices that Sessions is implementing.  
> The price for getting to remake the department in his own weird image is being constantly insulted by a guy that no one takes seriously anyway. That doesn’t seem like a horrible offer.

As ThelmaLou already said – This.

I think Sessions has wanted this particular kind of legal power for a long time, and he’s been frustrated in that goal until Trump appointed him AG. He can put up with Trump’s name-calling, which is all focused around the recusal issue. Remember, he’s been name-called a lot worse by people who pointed out his history of racist speech/action.

I’d believe in the “Sessions is driven by integrity” interpretations a lot more if he countered Trump’s attacks on the FBI and Mueller. Have I forgotten, or has he been pretty close to silent on the issue?

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20797 "2018-05-30T18:54:54Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> does anyone know what ‘horrible’ statements he is reffering to?

Apparently, at some point, Bob Iger said that Donald Trump is the product of the “muslim brotherhood & planet of the apes” having a baby.

Or Donald Trump is lying.

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**Author:** ![snoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@snoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snoe)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20798 "2018-05-30T18:55:49Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> does anyone know what ‘horrible’ statements he is reffering to?

I was wondering if he was referring to things Iger **personally** had said, but that’s not in the Trump tweet:

> [@](#):
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> Gee, he never called President Donald J. Trump to apologize for the HORRIBLE statements **made and said about me on ABC**. (emphasis added)

People on ABC must have “made and said” many HORRIBLE comments about Trump. I don’t watch ABC with any regularity, but pretty much anywhere I go and anything I read or watch has a good chance of containing such HORRIBLE comments. Insert “maybe YOU’RE the asshole” proverb here.

By the way: what the fuck does it mean that comments were “made or said”? I guess he may be making some distinction between verbal and written language.

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20799 "2018-05-30T19:11:15Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> does anyone know what ‘horrible’ statements he is reffering to?

Just day-to-day reporting, I’d assume. Or maybe they said something about his poll numbers dropping.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20800 "2018-05-30T19:21:43Z")

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Perhaps it was ABC News reporting that the President of the United States is a lying sack of shit.

More likely it was somebody on The View said something mean about him.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20801 "2018-05-30T19:24:49Z")

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> [@snoe](#):
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> I’d believe in the “Sessions is driven by integrity” interpretations a lot more if he countered Trump’s attacks on the FBI and Mueller. Have I forgotten, or has he been pretty close to silent on the issue?

Recusal cuts both ways. Having recused himself from the Russia investigation, it would be just as bad for Sessions to speak out in support of it as it would be if he meddled or shut it down.

> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Apparently, at some point, Bob Iger said that Donald Trump is the product of the “muslim brotherhood & planet of the apes” having a baby.
> 
> Or Donald Trump is lying.

I am more concerned about the Many Horrible Things that Donald Trump has said, that ABC reported on without apologizing to anyone. Though I guess he was an NBC employee.

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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20802 "2018-05-30T19:40:16Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Apparently, at some point, Bob Iger said that Donald Trump is the product of the “muslim brotherhood & planet of the apes” having a baby.

Actually, he [resigned](https://www.laughingplace.com/w/news/2017/06/01/bob-iger-resigns-trump-advisory-council-due-paris-agreement-withdrawal/) from the President’s White House Advisory Council as a “matter of principle” after Trump withdrew from the Paris Climate Accords. It’s the same sort of thing.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20803 "2018-05-30T20:26:33Z")

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[Melanie speaks!](https://twitter.com/FLOTUS/status/1001912411933364224?s=19)

“I see the media is working overtime speculating where I am & what I’m doing. Rest assured, I’m here at the @WhiteHouse w my family, feeling great, & working hard on behalf of children & the American people!”

This, btw, sounds like none of her other 307 tweets.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/20804 "2018-05-30T20:28:14Z")

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North Korea said to be willing to open a hamburger chain in order to get goodwill from Trump. This is not The Onion.

> **[CIA finds North Korea won’t give up nuclear weapons, could open burger...](https://thehill.com/policy/international/asia-pacific/389791-cia-finds-north-korea-wont-give-up-nuclear-weapons-could/)**
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> A CIA report found that North Korea does not plan to give up its nuclear weapons in the near future, contradicting President Trump’s statements that the country would do so, NBC News reported Tuesd…

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